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"2022-12-15T00:01:34"
F1 Authentics sold me fake Vettel gloves
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by** u/sideb60 **in** r/formula1 mood spoilers: >!frustrating, but eventually positive outcome!< \--------------------------------------- [**F1 Authentics sold me fake Vettel gloves**](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/x0md09/f1_authentics_sold_me_fake_vettel_gloves/) \- August 28 2022 So, back in October 2021 I bought signed, race-worn Vettel gloves from the Bahrain GP (Seb's first race with Aston Martin) on the F1 Authentics website. It took many, many months (until March 2022) for F1 Authentics to actually deliver the gloves. And in the mean time it turns out that Seb was no longer going to sign any of the memorabilia. So now I'm a few months down the line, still a significant amount out of pocket and now I'm not even getting a signed race piece. To top it off, when the gloves eventually arrived, they've sent some replicas and not the real deal. How do I know this? At Bahrain Seb used a set of gloves with dark/lime green accents and carrying the number 5 on the gloves. From the second race in Imola, the BWT sponsorship meant the design was changed to pink, and the number 5 was dropped. Also, the gloves they sent are way too clean to be race-worn. In my opinion, clearly replicas. The plot thickens, because after many back and forth emails, I actually receive a letter from Mick Krack to assure me of the authenticity of the gloves... except the letter is full of inconsistencies (gloves are NOT signed, also mentions race boots?). Then, around the same time I find someone on ebay who has the Bahrain GP 2021 gloves as well. Except, those ones look like the real deal. So I bought them to compare. In the last picture you can clearly see the difference, and in my opinion F1 Authentics has sent something they falsely claim to be from the Bahrain GP and doesn't even look race-worn. So the purpose of this post is 1) be very wary if you are thinking about ordering from F1 Authentics. I paid a premium for the gloves because I thought something affiliated with the F1 brand is surely trustworthy, and I was wrong. 2) If anyone from Aston Martin or F1 Authentics is reading this, I'd very much like a chat. EDIT: Okay, I didn't quite expect this to get so much traction. I was on the road yesterday so I didn't get a chance to read all the comments. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions! So I already tried contacting Amex last month (July 2022). Unfortunately because the transaction was over 180 days old they couldn't intervene. I could have tried this earlier and been successful, but there was a lot of back and forth trying to fix it in the beginning. I didn't have a twitter account before this, but I've followed your suggestions and contacted Matt Bishop. Tweet is here: [https://twitter.com/greengloves\_V5/status/1564483381643051008](https://twitter.com/greengloves_V5/status/1564483381643051008) I'll post another update if I have some news. UPDATE: So on Wednesday I received a phone call from a guy at Aston Martin. He basically confirmed that all of the race-wear F1 Authentics receives from them is indeed genuine and not a replica. He also told me that the drivers use multiple sets of race-wear per weekend. So F1 Authentics gets a set and the others go to friends/family/team or get kept by Seb. Which explains how a set could look more/less worn than another set. They also confirmed that the pink gloves were indeed not worn in Bahrain, and apologised that there has been some kind of mix up. And since the phone call they've sent me something in the mail (I don't know what yet) to help make up for the mistake. In the meantime they said they would fix the gloves for me and that someone would be in touch shortly. Then on Thursday I receive a call from the Head of Customer Service at F1 Authentics. She was very nice and apologised that I'd been let down by the whole experience and for the length of time it's taken to get any action on this. Together with Aston Martin they are arranging to get me Seb's gloves from the Dutch GP signed at Monza (hopefully with a photo of them being signed). Thanks for helping get this fixed reddit! I'll post a picture when I eventually get the gloves. The gloves I received from F1 Authentics: [https://preview.redd.it/k5bdd1gx0nk91.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=1a8f37ea90f6a5bd41c91da9b8224ce776f94003](https://preview.redd.it/k5bdd1gx0nk91.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=1a8f37ea90f6a5bd41c91da9b8224ce776f94003) Bahrain GP - green gloves: [https://preview.redd.it/9alwezfx0nk91.png?width=2098&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=6da4c66ced406c209b8fddfa9905032ff5d2bcdc](https://preview.redd.it/9alwezfx0nk91.png?width=2098&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=6da4c66ced406c209b8fddfa9905032ff5d2bcdc) Imola GP - pink gloves: [https://preview.redd.it/gufoa8gx0nk91.png?width=2388&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=a1f2777c46c5f87ee096034da98f18e3b93d05b1](https://preview.redd.it/gufoa8gx0nk91.png?width=2388&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=a1f2777c46c5f87ee096034da98f18e3b93d05b1) Letter from Mike Krack: [https://preview.redd.it/cwkexzfx0nk91.png?width=1056&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=1b3f88db22320a7d296421726dfde5c931e0f673](https://preview.redd.it/cwkexzfx0nk91.png?width=1056&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=1b3f88db22320a7d296421726dfde5c931e0f673) Comparison of both sets of gloves: [https://preview.redd.it/9nhat6gx0nk91.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=3cab264641df7f73de606ebeacaf261371e2e585](https://preview.redd.it/9nhat6gx0nk91.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=3cab264641df7f73de606ebeacaf261371e2e585) \--------------------------------------- [**\[UPDATE\] "F1 Authentics sold me fake Vettel gloves"**](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/ynub2c/update_f1_authentics_sold_me_fake_vettel_gloves/) \- November 6 2022 Hey [r/formula1](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/)! So you may remember my [original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/x0md09/f1_authentics_sold_me_fake_vettel_gloves/) about some memorabilia I purchased from F1 Authentics which didn't exactly match what was worn during the race it was supposedly from. Well, here is the update. First the pictures! old vs new: [https://preview.redd.it/if9yksahscy91.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=9b8947686b417d2d7b197d0ba1125d58a549051b](https://preview.redd.it/if9yksahscy91.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=9b8947686b417d2d7b197d0ba1125d58a549051b) closeup of new gloves: [https://preview.redd.it/kg7in0elscy91.jpg?width=1964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=b36de01bbb33f4ad31a70754a5206135961ce23f](https://preview.redd.it/kg7in0elscy91.jpg?width=1964&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=b36de01bbb33f4ad31a70754a5206135961ce23f) Studio shot from F1 Authentics: [https://preview.redd.it/umzj83nyscy91.png?width=1526&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=20d582e7f5e866e4ae44a8aa4a9855890c5f74fe](https://preview.redd.it/umzj83nyscy91.png?width=1526&format=png&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=20d582e7f5e866e4ae44a8aa4a9855890c5f74fe) Seb signing my gloves: [https://preview.redd.it/cio5ctn1i6y91.jpg?width=3889&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=5e5887fe088e29d11da1193f9cc11cd5b377eb01](https://preview.redd.it/cio5ctn1i6y91.jpg?width=3889&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=5e5887fe088e29d11da1193f9cc11cd5b377eb01) The bonus package AMF1 (Aston Martin Formula 1) sent me: [https://preview.redd.it/ycmottiaj6y91.jpg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=6e96a340c58bb8859174cd8a9fe261667eeecb6e](https://preview.redd.it/ycmottiaj6y91.jpg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=6e96a340c58bb8859174cd8a9fe261667eeecb6e) So it didn't take long for the original post to get the attention of both AMF1 and F1 Authentics. A guy from AMF1 called me a couple of days later and apologised, told me what they supply F1 Authentics *are* genuine used gloves (just not from the Bahrain GP in my case) and told me they'd arrange with F1 Authentics to fix a new pair for me. During the call he told me that the drivers use multiple sets of race-wear per weekend. So it's possible the set they supply to F1 Authentics has only done a handful of laps rather than a full race, which can explain different wear levels between sets. He also asked for my address/size and said he'd put something in the mail for me. A short time later I receive a package containing some merch, which was pretty cool since that was a bonus.  The day after the call from AMF1, I received a call from the head of customer services at F1 Authentics. She also apologised for the mistake and for the length of time it had taken to get a resolution. At the time I was actually attending the Dutch GP, and they managed to arrange for Seb to sign his race gloves from that race for me. Since the drivers leave pretty quickly after the race this actually happened during Monza the following week. They stepped up their level of customer service after the post - I received email updates at every stage of the process: the gloves being signed, the studio shot of the gloves, the gloves being framed etc. The turnaround from being sent to the framer, being received back and then getting delivered was also super fast. Big thanks to the reddit community for helping the original post get noticed and thanks to everyone who messaged me with info/contacts for people at Aston. This definitely wouldn't have been fixed so quickly or as satisfactorily with your help! Overall I'm super happy with the outcome and having now got a pair of genuine signed gloves I can say it's restored some confidence in F1 Authentics. Hopefully they've learned some lessons from this and their customer service will improve in future. \--------------------------------------- My first post to BORU, let me know if there's any issues to the post! **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-15T05:38:23"
AITA for telling a colleague their disability is not a free pass to be an asshole and getting them suspended?
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**I am not OOP. OOP is** [u/niffedofficeworker](https://www.reddit.com/user/niffedofficeworker/). He posted in r/AmItheAsshole. I changed the letter of the woman to a name to make it easier to read. Your daily fun fact to cover up web mobile spoilers! At the request of u/wannapopcorn, it is about dugongs. (An animal, I'm ashamed to admit, I did not know existed.) Dugongs can live 70+ years and they stand on their tails in shallow water to poke their heads above the surface! ([Source 1](https://oceana.org/marine-life/dugong/), [Source 2](https://www.softschools.com/facts/animals/dugong_facts/237/)) **Trigger Warnings:** >!ableism!< **Mood Spoiler:** >!Justice is served!< **Original** [Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zf2twl/aita_for_telling_a_colleague_their_disability_is/)**: December 7, 2022** I (29m) have started a new position at the beginning of November with a decent sized law firm in my city Things have been going great up until this week. The first 3 weeks I have been here I have heard lots of horror stories around a member of the office we will call Jolene. I've heard that the last 2 people that took this position were basically bullied out of the post by Jolene and that anybody who makes any complaints to HR basically get told to put up and shut up for two reasons. Firstly Jolene, despite not being the most popular person in the office, is very good at what she does to the point the company sees her as invaluable and secondly, Jolene is a wheelchair user and is apparently very quick to throw the discrimination card around as soon as something doesn't go her way. Another key point to this tale is that I use a stoma bag and have done since I was a baby. Anyway this week is the first week I have interacted with Jolene as she was on annual leave for my first 3 weeks with the company. I was using the disabled bathroom to empty my bag when I started hearing a loud banging on the door. I said one moment and opened the door to a lady in a wheelchair, the infamous Jolene. I was berated for about 5 minutes things such as "why is a healthy young man using a disabled bathroom I should be ashamed, etc" drawing the attention of everyone in the nearby vicinity before she even let me speak. I eventually got a word in, reminded her that not all disabilities are blatantly obvious and lifted my shirt up to show her my bag. She went bright red and I got on with my day. The next day I go to use the disabled bathroom to find a poster on the door saying "wheelchair users only". I didn't make a huge fuss but happened to mention to the colleague across the table from me "have you seen Jolene's latest stunt". This is the woman who told me to watch out for Jolene initially I go home for the day and return the next to an email saying to report to HR as soon as I clock in. I get in there to be told that I am receiving a verbal warning as my "tittle-tattle" in the office caused a huge bust up between Jolene and my mentor. Jolene was in the office and smirking all the while. I lost my cool and told Jolene that the only reason she is still in a job is because of how long she had been with the business and that she isn't going to bully me out of my position like she had my 2 predecessors. I also told her that I apologise that she has been dealt a bad hand but that it doesn't give her the right to treat people like shit and that she is no longer the only disabled person in the office so she isn't going to keep getting away with her stunts. I then told HR about the bathroom incident and what followed. Eventually Jolene was suspended pending investigation I must admit I felt great on the day but as the week has gone on I can't help but feel guilty. I wanted to teach her a bit of a lesson not put her job at risk in times like we are having (cost of living crisis, etc). So AITA? ***Relevant Comments:*** *About why he feels guilty:* "Just to clarify I wasn't suspended she was. However I am suffering with horrible guilt as the UK is currently in the middle of a real rough time and I wouldn't like to put anybody out of a job ATM regardless of their actions. Life is hard for everyone as it stands I don't want to be responsible for anyone struggling regardless of what was said between us hence the guilty AITA. much love for your comment however ❤️" *Is there a disability key?* "In public places yes. Registered disabled people are given what is known as a radar key which is essentially a skeleton key to access any additional needs/disabled bathroom. I do have said key although in the entirety of my employment with above company the bathroom has been left open anyway." ***OOP is voted NTA*** **Update (same post): December 8, 2022** Update for those that are interested Nothing official has happened but had a chat with HR strictly off the record. Jolene was suspended as we had offsite visitors in on the day meaning that her sign could have been deemed as bringing the company into disrepute which is classed as gross misconduct. I said off the record that I'd be happy to drop the complaint as tbh I don't really want to play the office politics and I'm already over what was said. I also harbour no ill will towards the company as they have been fantastic with me and i cant blame an entire company for the unauthorised actions of one person. However, its being taken out of my hands as the venue director is getting involved which strikes me as a bad sign for Jolene. For those interested they expunged my warning so I have a clean slate again. Whilst nobody is openly celebrating Jolene's departure as would be a bit classless there certainly seems to be a better atmosphere around the office so I guess that's a positive. Just wanted to say thanks for the love and support on this. Just shows what a wholesome group the people here are. Take care all
LucyAriaRose
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"2022-12-15T11:02:56"
"You should fire us!" "Ok."
CONCLUDED
**I am NOT OP. Original post by** [u/Wildcatb](https://www.reddit.com/user/Wildcatb/) **in** [r/MaliciousCompliance](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/) ["You should fire us!" "Ok."](https://www.reddit.com/r/MaliciousCompliance/comments/xx8c7z/you_should_fire_us_ok/) \- 6 October 2022 My family runs a small trucking company. Depending on where you are in the world, you might call us a P&D company, a Final Mile company, a White Glove company... basically we handle the kind of stuff that you might buy to have delivered to your home or business, that's too big for someone like UPS to deliver, but not big enough for a tractor trailer to haul, and/or stuff that actually needs to be brought into the home and set up, like furniture, appliances, etc. A lot of what we’ve hauled over the years is stuff going to small stores that can’t take delivery by large truck, construction sites where large trucks can’t get in and out, neighborhoods and apartment complexes… we don't work for the people buying the stuff, we work for the people selling or shipping it, but as we tend to see the same business owners a lot, we've developed great relationships with them over the years. We don't get rich, but we've been pretty comfortable over the years. Our one major stressor has been a long-time shipper who has - or rather, had - become increasingly demanding as time went on. Now when I say 'long-time' I mean it. We made our first delivery for them over fifty years ago. Our company has been doing business with them longer than any of their current employees or management staff have been there. There was one point, not too long ago, where the retired guy who came in a few hours a day to sweep our warehouse because he was bored sitting home, literally knew more about this shipper’s systems than their senior field rep who was supposed to be ‘supervising’ our operations. We have been a small, but vital part of their network, for so long that almost no one there really realized how much we did for them. We’ve seen field reps come and go. Some have been great, some have been a little challenging, but most have – once they realized what was going on – largely left us alone to do our jobs. One even called when he took over our area to ask who we were, because his predecessor had no notes on us at all, because they’d never had to visit. We’ve just been (mostly) quietly plugging along, taking care of their customers, in some cases for generations. Well… the latest rep… was a genuinely unpleasant person. He was arrogant, abrasive, casually insulted our employees… honestly it’s not worth getting into the minutiae here. He wasn’t someone we wanted to work with. But I’m able to put on a happy face and get along with about anyone, when needs must, so onward we strode. As I said earlier, the shipper had been getting more and more demanding as time went on. Systems had been getting harder to navigate, inventory had been getting harder to track, phone trees had grown into Banyan nightmares, more and more layers of bureaucracy had been added, and with every change they’d grown less agile, slower, more difficult to deal with. One day the field rep called because he didn’t like how we’d answered an email. Not that we hadn’t answered it, just that he didn’t like the manner in which it had been answered. After decades of dealing with this shipper, being micromanaged to that level was not something that we were interested in. The manager here who was dealing directly with him tried to defuse the situation, but it kept getting worse until the field rep said, “If you aren’t happy with the way things are going, maybe you should just quit.” Oh. Ok then. We started running the numbers, looked at all our other business, decided that we could, indeed, go on without them, and then I called the field rep to have a frank conversation with him. And then I wrote a short, polite, direct letter to our customer of over fifty years telling them that we were firing them. We didn’t just pull the plug. We gave them a full 60 days’ notice, so they’d have time to get something worked out. And… they didn’t. We’ve always been here for them. They’ve never had to worry about it. They had someone they thought was going to be a replacement, but… well… as of today most of their customers in this area haven’t had deliveries in a week. Some, longer than that. Many don’t know when they’ll get their next shipment. That field rep might still have a job when all is said and done… but it’s not our problem anymore. Our phone keeps ringing, people looking for their freight from that shipper. “Sorry, you’ll have to call them…” **UPDATE 11-28-22** Sorry it's been so long, but I kind of wanted to let things settle down before I wrote anything else. For almost a month our office got daily calls from people looking for their orders. A lot of the regular customers had my and my partner's cell numbers, and we got more than a few calls directly. My most recent call was a guy I've known since the early 90s desperately trying to track down a replacement order that just seems to have evaporated. Sorry... can't help... We have picked up enough new business that we're not worried about the future. We did have to let a coupe of people go, but our remaining employees are happier dealing with the new customers, our working hours have settled down, and we just took our first four day Thanksgiving weekend in probably fifteen years. My wife kept saying how weird and wonderful it was to have me home for the entire holiday, and for my part it was the best Thanksgiving I've had in a long, long time. The new company is still struggling to keep up, let alone catch up. We've been told that the old field rep is 'not in a position to be able to treat people like that anymore,' but haven't been told exactly what has happened to them. Their replacement in our region is burning the candle at both ends trying to keep up with his regular work, and get the new company straightened out. One of Old Customer's biggest customers in this area told them that if they wouldn't commit to sitting down at the table with us to try to get us back, they were going to look at taking their business elsewhere. We didn't ask for that, but we said we'd be willing to talk if they came to us. They haven't. The new field rep said he passed on our willingness to talk, but that Higher wanted to stay the new course for now. Their call, and I'm honestly not upset about it. The new field rep sees the problems we've seen, and it seems like Higher does as well. We handled that business here for a long time, and were pretty emotionally wrapped up in it, and we told New Rep that we were sorry to have put him in this position; he said - paraphrasing - 'no, no this is our fault; we put ourselves in this position.' I heard through the grapevine that we were one of over a dozen service providers to quit their network around the same time (in the space of a couple months) and asked New Rep about that. He clarified that it was over a dozen *East of the Mississippi* and that there were "a bunch" more in the Western region. Putting two and two together, we estimate something close to 15% of their providers. That's been a wake-up call to them; hopefully they'll work toward fixing some of the longstanding problems. Like so many things in life, it seems like this was something we should have done a long time ago. I still see a lot of our old contacts, and it's nice to have the time to actually stop and chat with them, instead of being on the run all the time. One of them invited my family to his place in the country next spring, and another wants to get together for lunch next week. This is good. **Reminder - I am not the original poster.** **Marked as concluded as there probably won't be any updates to this post specifically.**
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"2022-12-15T13:39:15"
OOP "TIFU by telling my gf’s three older brothers about how rough their sister likes it"
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"2022-12-15T14:29:38"
I (30m) think my fiancée’s (27f) cousin’s (34f) child is mine
ONGOING
*I am not the OP, this post was originally posted by* [*u/mylifeissofuckedddd*](https://www.reddit.com/user/mylifeissofuckedddd/) *on* [*r/relationship\_advice*](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/)*.* Trigger word: >!Infidelity!< *(Does that even require a TW? Aren't, like, 3/4 of our posts here about it?)* # [Original Post (Dec 07, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/zelti7/i_30m_think_my_fianc%C3%A9es_27f_cousins_34f_child_is/) My fiancée, Sara, and I have been together for 3 years. She’s actually my first serious gf since middle school. I will honestly admit I’ve been a complete piece of shit with women for most of my teens and 20s and pretty much used women. I’m saying all this to explain how promiscuous I was in the past. Sara knows about my past and she’s grown to accept it. We met at work and she hated me because she saw right through me and after pursuing her for close to a year she finally agreed to a date and the rest is history. We’ve been living together for 2 years now and I’ve grown incredibly close to her parents too and she also loves my family. Past 3 years have been the best of my life and I’m so excited to spend the rest of my life with her. This weekend her cousin and her family are in town. She’s really close with her cousin Lauren (miracle I haven’t met her yet, I was always busy for one reason or another the few times she’s visited in the last 3 years). So I finally met Lauren and her husband for dinner at Sara’s parents place. She immediately stares at me a bit wide eyed and I can’t help but think she looks familiar. We’re all being introduced to each other and Lauren for the most part seems to be acting normally but she’s still staring at me whenever she can. Sara’s parents then come in with Lauren’s little boy who’s 5yrs old. I’m looking at this kid and Lauren and the only thing I can think of is that this boy looks like a carbon copy of me at his age with some Lauren mixed in. I’m suddenly starting to remember that I took Lauren home from a bar close to 6 years ago. And I also remember convincing her to not use protection after I showed her my blood work. I’m just a sweaty nervous mess for the rest of dinner and I think Lauren realizes from how she looked at me and the boy that maybe I realized too. And an even more fucked up part, I think Lauren was visiting Sara the weekend I took her home. They probably had a girls night out that weekend with their friends and I took Lauren home. So Sara was probably at the same bar that night. Sara asked me if I was ok and just told her I wasn’t feeling well. I didn’t go to work yesterday and today and just took sick days. Idk what the fuck to do. Lauren obviously isn’t saying anything. I have no clue if she was married at the time and I don’t want to ask Sara because I don’t want her getting suspicious about me asking. I don’t even know how I feel about possibly being a father (I’m 95% sure this kid is mine, looked NOTHING like the husband). Do I just shut up? I never cheated on Sara obviously but she knows how much of a player I was and it took her a while to get past my number. I don’t know how she’d react if she knows I knocked up her cousin years before knowing her. This is vain and superficial about Sara and I love her to death but she absolutely hates if something is considered “trashy” or “low class”. I honestly think it’s possible she’d leave me if I knocked up her cousin. I can’t lose her, she’s literally the best thing that’s ever happened to me. ​ *Mixed responses from the community, that seem a little divided by gender - the overall impression is (without wanting to make any sweeping judgements) that men mostly seemed to advise him to just shut up about it, while some recommended he talk to Lauren first and find out if it actually IS his kid.* *The female first responders seemed more pro coming clean and definitely talking to Sarah first, as keeping it a secret/ talking to Lauren would be a breach of trust that would probably be worse than knocking up an unknown woman years before he met her. Especially since OOP's foremost goal is to keep Sarah:* >"My only goal is keeping Sara. Honestly in my state of mind the last few days I don’t care about anything else" > >"My ideal situation is Sara doesn’t leave me, that’s all that matters and I’ll do anything to make sure she stays. I don’t know how I feel about the kid, he seemed happy with his parents. They live several states away. Sara wants kids in the future, maybe 3-4 years." > >"Searched Sara’s calendar for the kids birthday and the timing works out. Fuck." # [Update Post (Dec 07, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/zfchwc/update_i_30m_think_my_fianc%C3%A9es_27f_cousins_34f/) After 3 days of staying at home and feeling sick to my stomach with nervousness about this I finally told Sara late last night after my last post. Thank you so much [u/Own-Crew-3394](https://www.reddit.com/u/Own-Crew-3394/) because that post gave me the push to spill my guts. As embarrassing as it is I cried from beginning to end telling Sara and pretty much told her I don’t want to live without her. *\[*[*Here is the link*](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/zelti7/comment/iz7lvzg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) *to the comment he mentioned.\]* She held my hands in bed and patiently listened about how I recognized Lauren, remembered our night, and how seeing that kid mentally broke me because I saw my future with Sara jeopardized as soon as I saw him. She told me she’s upset I didn’t tell her as soon as we left her parents place and to never keep something like this from her again but she understood I was scared. She said she’s not leaving me because I never betrayed her in the last 3 years we’ve been together and we’ll figure this out too. And she said she’ll reach out to Lauren herself and figure out what’s going on because she’s been with her husband for 10 years now and if she’s my ONS from years ago she definitely cheated. We then had an even more uncomfortable about the type of things I’ve done in my past and wanted to know if there’s any more surprises she needs to be ready for. Said she knows I was promiscuous and a bit of a reckless idiot but we kind of swept everything under the rug when we got together because we both agreed we wanted a fresh start. And after this fiasco that might’ve been a bad idea so she wants to know everything in detail now but we can have that talk another time. I don’t feel great about this but I’ll deal with this hurdle when it comes up. Sara has been home with me trying to get in touch with Lauren since morning and has been getting completely stone walled. Finally Lauren texted her to “please just let it go”. Sara asked her again if they could just have a quick chat or even if text is ok but Lauren insisted to just “let it go please”. I’m guessing Lauren realized I told Sara everything. We don’t know how to proceed from here on out. We’re deciding to just respect her wishes and not pursue this further. Lauren also just changed her response to our wedding invite to a no show. Sara is kind of upset by this but honestly I’m fine with this outcome. We always planned to leave the US in a few years anyway. I got a lot of messages asking me to just shut up and I was honestly ready to go that route but I think the worry was actually physically making me sick. Anyway, thanks everyone for the advice, much appreciated. ​ *Again, very mixed reactions in the comments, which mostly seemed to center around whether OOP had the moral obligation to come clean to the child's father, to find out if he knows he's raising another man's child. A lot of people told him that he absolutely had to tell the father.* *But the comments that most seemed to resonate with OOP (at least, those were the ones he replied to) were the ones that told him not to mess up the kid's life and family:* >Redditor1: \[...\] Now you are thinking about this correctly. What is best for everyone involved. You have competing moral imperatives here: the right of the father to know the truth and the wellbeing of the child (not in the sense you are responsible for the kid, but in the sense that you know your choice will affect the kid). I do not know what is right to do here, but you are not wrong to think that the kid having a better life if you never say anything is a relevant consideration. Does it outweigh the husband's right to know? Not sure. But ignore everyone telling you this is such an obvious decision because the father's right to know is clearly the only relevant factor (and he IS that kid's father, although he would also have the right to stop being so if he found out the truth). The best case scenario for the kid is that no one else ever finds out. Trying to achieve that best case scenario is a reasonable option. > >OOP: Thank you for your post, this is how we’re trying to look at it too. Terrible situation but trying to make our decision with the kid’s best interest in mind. ​ >Redditor2: You will drop a nuclear bomb (and literally life defining moment) on this kid if you ever bring this up to the husband. Don’t listen to any of these posts telling you to do this. It’s beyond selfish and moronic. Infact, it will cause a complete family implosion (and extended family implosion too, Sara’s parents will never look at you the same). > >Last thing you need is to expose all of this over a “hunch” you think this child is yours. Reddit seems really interested in you blowing up multiple families and a kids life over a “hunch”. > >I’m going to break it down for you. > >You DONT know that you’re the father. You are just thinking you might be. In reality, you don’t know that yet. > >This is 100% on Lauren. You did your part, Sara now knows. There’s no secrets between you, and she can use this information how she sees fit. > >Lauren’s relationship with her child is her business. Maybe she feels she needs to find out, maybe she doesn’t. It’s not your “role” to interject. You are NOT this kids dad. You don’t even know him. Reddit is giving you horrendous advice. Don’t take it. > >Can you imagine if you brought this up to her husband, he leaves because he thinks you’re telling the truth, kid is shattered because dad isn’t in his life anymore (not to mention Sara’s family hates you for this), only for it to come out later that you are NOT the father? > >OP, you did the right thing telling Sara. Lauren wants to bury the hatchet, and if Sara wants to do this as well, then let it be. Do not confront anyone over this, you don’t have all the facts (even though you think you do). All you know right now is that Lauren cheated on her husband with you roughly 6 years ago. What you don’t know is if that child is yours. Don’t assume that you do. > >OOP: This is how Sara and I are seeing the situation too. ​ >OOP, *indulging in a bit of wishful thinking*: \[...\] And honestly maybe it’s possible Lauren’s husband knows she strayed and they moved past it and she doesn’t want to revisit. She didn’t really want to talk to us so we don’t know. I’m trying to move past this situation without hurting anyone. ​ >Final words from OOP: I agree the situation is messed up and I would like to know if my partner ever cheated. But the fact of the matter is this will likely destroy an otherwise happy family. Both Lauren and her husband are incredibly successful in their fields and live in an affluent area and can provide the best life for the kid. While Sara and I are still building our careers and about to begin our own lives. > >And people have been asking whether I care about the kid. Yes of course I do, I saw myself when I saw him. But I don’t even know him. I’m ok with not being in his life and if I’m the future he somehow finds out and decides to find me we can deal with it then. But right now I’m fine staying at a distance and seeing him through Facebook pics and starting my life with Sara. Hope that didn’t come off as heartless but I’m truly thinking about what’s best for him. *So, again,* ***I'm NOT OOP*** *- but I'm looking forward to your discussions and finding out where the moral judgement falls in this sub - let sleeping dogs lie and the husband and child live in happy oblivion (until the day someone needs a kidney or does a heritage dna test)? Or implode several families and destroy a child's safe happy childhood, to stop the poor husband from getting cuckolded (OOP was probably not Lauren's first or last rodeo)?* **EDIT: Just because it has come up a couple of times in the comments, here is OOP's explanation re blood work and bc:** >I didn’t pressure her. I requested it and pulled up my phone and showed her my latest blood work. Medical labs email you your results these days. She said she was clean too and that’s it. > >Hugely irresponsible and stupid on my part but I was a different person back then. ​
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"2022-12-15T17:30:18"
OOP "MIL" posts in AITA about wanting her brother to be invited to her daughter's wedding. Redditors smell BS. OOP "Fiancée" gives an update in JUSTNOMIL.
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"2022-12-15T17:55:40"
My dad wants us to meet the woman he is seeing at my sister's high school graduation.
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"2022-12-15T18:17:34"
My [42M] daughter [14F] won't get an abortion.
INCONCLUSIVE
**I am NOT OP. Original post by** u/jackjack6700 **+** u/ThrowRAjackjack6700 **in** r/relationship_advice ​ trigger warnings: >!teen pregnancy, abortion, miscarriage!< mood spoilers: >!overall sad, devastating circumstances for OOP & daughter!<    [**My \[42M\] daughter \[14F\] won't get an abortion**](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/ds59s0/my_42m_daughter_14f_wont_get_an_abortion/) \- 6th November 2019 I \[42M\] am a single father to my daughter \[14F\]. My wife passed away with excessive bleeding after childbirth, so it's just me and her. She's a fantastic young lady, always on honor roll, really good at basketball, and a social butterfly. She doesn't see too much of me because I work 9-7, but I'm home for dinner and she's started getting really good at cooking something little for both of us. Around Tuesday, I noticed there was something off about her. She was a whole lot quieter than she usually is and there was no chatter during dinner. Right after dinner she went up to her room, even though typically we sit and watch TV together. I figured it was just moody teenage hormones. Except it doesn't stop. Friday I finally take her hands and ask her what was wrong. She looked at me and just burst into tears. She cried more, so I held her until she was ready, and that's when she whispered, "I'm pregnant." I was shocked. Utterly and completely shocked. I kept on hugging her, but my mind had gone blank. I took her upstairs, tucked her into bed. I didn't think asking her about what she planned to do when she was so vulnerable was a good idea, I'd wait until she calmed down a little. Saturday she came down for breakfast and I sat her down and asked her her plans. She said under no circumstances will she abort the baby, it's her baby and she plans to keep it full-term. I then asked about adoption, and she said she didn't want to, that she could care for it. I calmly explained that we were no way financially able to care for a baby, and who would take care of it during the day? I go to work, she goes to school, and my parents, although were a big help in taking care of my daughter when she was younger, are too old to watch a baby. She suggested she start online school, which I refused, saying I don't want her to ruin her life. The thing is, I don't even want to consider adoption. I can't imagine her going through pregnancy, then labor, especially with what happened to her mother. I don't know if high-risk pregnancies are genetic but if she has one, what if I lose her?I told her this, and she asked me if I had no love for my grandchild. But I don't. I don't care at all about the clump of cells in her uterus, I care about her. The girl I raised. I told her today that she had to abort her child. She cried, screamed, begged, telling me to reconsider, telling me that she'd run away. There's no way I'm letting her give birth, she could tear her body apart. And for school, I don't want her to face the stigma and hurt of teen pregnancy. At this point, I see only one way out of this, and that's telling her if she doesn't abort it, I'm kicking her out. It hurts me so much to do this but if she doesn't do one, I'm afraid her life will truly be over. I won't actually, but I'm hoping it'll push her in the right direction. I'm pretty much manipulating her, but how do I get out of this? Where do I go from here? TL;DR: My daughter's pregnant, we can't afford a baby, she doesn't want to give it up or abort it   [**UPDATE - 1**](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/dsj4nn/update_my_42m_daughter_14f_wont_get_an_abortion/) \- 6th November 2019 So today she didn't go to school and we went to the local clinic to her checked out. It's been confirmed: she's definitely pregnant, about 13 weeks along. Everything's fine so far, but she's automatically high-risk because she's a teenager. They said she could develop anemia, low blood iron, or blood pressure problems, and on top of that the baby could also be born with disabilities. After the doctor's I took her out for ice cream and then asked her who the father was. I told her I had to know, she had to tell me. She refused, saying she'd raise the baby on her own, without his help. We went home and she went to the bathroom and accidentally left her phone open, so I took it and looked through her messages. According to the ones between her and her friends and her and the guy, he's 15 years old and a friend of a friend. She hadn't told him yet. I wrote down his number and then messaged him on my phone, telling him I was \[daughter's name\] dad, and I needed him to give me his mother's number because of a big problem. I expected something of a fight but the kid messaged it back to me, so I called his mom and I told him my daughter was pregnant, and her son was the father. She asked if I was sure, and I said based off the texts, it didn't seem like she'd had sex with anybody else, but she'd be free to get a paternity test. I said it'd be best if we got together at a coffee shop or something to talk, but she said there'd be no need of that. She said her son would be waiving his parental rights and they were not interested in a co-parenting situation. I asked about child support, and she said her husband would pay it, but her son would not be involved. She asked for me to not tell her about any details of the pregnancy and they don't want to be at any appointments. She hung up before I could say anything else. Now I don't know where I stand. I can't afford a lawyer, and I don't think I can make him get involved either way. I don't entirely trust them to be accommodating in terms of child support considering how short his mother was. Is there a way they could get out of paying it? I don't know enough about their family but if they have money and we don't, what's happening there? My daughter is no closer in getting an abortion or considering adoption, but I'm going to stop peppering her with it now. My sister and her are talking right now at the suggestion of another redditor, and I hope a female influence will work better on her than I am. She's sending a little bit of money, and I think I may be able to set up a therapy appointment for her to talk out her options in a professional way, something my sister and I can do. EDIT: Thank you everyone so much for commenting. I expected maybe a dozen comments and I’ve got hundreds of PM’s. Thank you all so much for your help. I’m not sure what the rules of updating are, but if it’s possible I’ll update as soon as I can.   [**UPDATE - 2**](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/dvyqby/my_42m_daughter_14f_had_a_miscarriage/) \- 14th November 2019 I last posted about a week ago. She decided to keep the baby, but for a while she'd been complaining about cramps and backaches, which we were told by the doctor will be expected and normal. I think they were a whole lot worse than she let on, but she didn't tell me. Around 1:30 AM last night, the bleeding started and we went straight to the hospital, where we were told she had miscarried. They said it was a late miscarriage, which happens after 13 weeks but before 20. As soon as she found out, she lost it. She started screaming at me "are you happy now?" and just cried and cried. She had a D&E (dilation and evacuation) and the doctors kept her to look her over and understand why it happened. They said it was about a weak cervix in which basically as the baby grows and pushes on the cervix, in some women the pressure causes the cervix to open before the baby is born, which can result in an early labor or a second-trimester miscarriage. According to the doctor, most late miscarriages are because of that, and they don't typically check for it during pregnancies which is why it's usually not diagnosed until after the miscarriage happens. The doctors told us her body will recover fairly quickly from it, she'll need some bedrest for some time but she'll be fine. Her emotional state is a whole other problem. She wouldn't let me hold her while she cried and she screamed at me for a while after she woke up from the D&E. She kept on saying how it was my fault and I must be delighted this was happening to her. I told her over and over I was so sorry, I loved her, it was no one's fault, but I may as well have been talking to a wall for all she listened. All night long she cried, wouldn't eat, and couldn't sleep. Today she was a little better and had some lunch, except outside of her room a pregnant woman (not a patient, I think a visitor to the child next door) walked by and she broke down again. Right now she's in an absolutely horrible emotional state. I'm so worried about her, I'm terrified she'll do something to herself, she'll be wounded beyond repair, and she'll probably hate me forever. I can't even begin to think that this was "a blessing in disguise" which is what my sister told me over the phone today. There's no more baby, but there's so little left of her now. How do I help her? EDIT: I’m sorry I didn’t get a chance to reply to any comments before it was locked, it’s been a busy day. I just want everyone to know, thanks for taking the time to reply. Therapy is a must, I’ll take a look into cheaper options, I’m thinking of reducing my hours, which may be kind of counter-productive but she needs me. For those saying she may try to get pregnant again, I don’t think she will because of the incompetent cervix issue, meaning if she does she knows it’ll probably end in miscarriage. We’ll be looking into getting that treated as well. For those of you saying this post is fake, trust me, I know how it looks, it seems awfully convenient. I don’t know what to tell you, but that it’s not. I had some time while she slept for a short amount of time which is when I posted. Nobody was picking up at that hour and I had to get advice from somewhere, so thanks, Reddit. This will be my last post and I just want to thank everyone who reached out to me.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-15T19:07:03"
I want to start calling my adoptive mom “mom” instead of her name
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/liberalfilmnerd76 in r/advice** ---   [**I want to start calling my adoptive mom “mom” instead of her name**](https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/z8b2rr/i_want_to_start_calling_my_adoptive_mom_mom/) - 30 November 2022 My bio parents put me (15m) up for adoption when I was born so I was always in foster homes until I was twelve. I had a teacher Janice (33f) who was my home room teacher. Janice found out about me being a foster kid and how I wished I had a family. Janice had also been a foster kid growing up and so long story short she then became my foster mom and adopted me. Janice is the best mom I could have ever asked for. She has been so unbelievably kind and loving to me and I absolutely adore her. The problem is that I don’t call her mom, I just call her Janice. I want to start calling her mom but have no idea how to without making it awkward. Please help me internet strangers. **Update:** So….. was not expecting this big of a response. Thank all of you for responding and some of the ideas made me really tear up. Anyways this morning I went to Janice and I said “good morning mom” she just looked at me and started crying then came over and hugged me and kissed my forehead. I hugged her back and she said I could call her whatever made me comfortable and that she loves me more than anything. I just replied with “I love you mom”. So yeah hope this update makes someone’s day because it certainly made mine. Have a great day. Also made a typo I’m 15 not 16 lol   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-15T19:10:55"
OOP asked her husband if he still loves her. His answer: You ask some difficult questions.
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"2022-12-15T20:23:23"
OOP asked her husband if he still loves her. His answer: You ask some difficult questions.
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I'm not the OOP. This was posted by u/2thinkcritically in r/trueoffmychest. [Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/xuihjx/asked_my_husband_if_he_still_loved_me_his_answer/) (3 Oct 22) **Asked my husband if he still loved me. His answer: You ask some difficult questions** So, as I posted before, I’ve going through a lot at home. I’ve anxiety and my husband doesn’t know how to cope with it. Now, I believe he simply doesn’t want to cope. We visited my doctor together, so he could understand a little bit about the situation (generalized anxiety disorder and depression). Terrible idea. He criticized me all the time, blamed me for not getting better, and at the end said he didn’t believe we could work out anymore. Yes, he said that to my doctor who was trying to make him understand how GAD and Depression are affecting me. At the end, I was crying and he was angry at me and at the doctor. He insisted I took him to a couple’s therapy without his consent. The next day I asked him the question I posted. When he couldn’t answer if he still loved me, I removed my wedding ring and said we were done. I couldn’t be with someone who couldn’t answer this simple question. More than a decade together and that’s how he answered me. He apologized, cried and said he doesn’t love me anymore. My anxiety has destroyed his feelings for me. I’m heart broken, but relieved, because I couldn’t spend my energy on this relationship, when clearly I was the only one fighting for it. At least now, I know it’s over. However I feel lonely, since I will have to fight this mental disorder all by myself (family lives far away). I must get better for my children and I. I cannot move out right now, nor him. We will have two different bedrooms, while sharing the house. We will also talk to a mediator, in order to organize the separation while I’m fighting against GAD and depression. I hope it’s gonna help. We have the kids and they don’t know yet how to tell them. I feel like I failed this family. And I’m afraid I’m will end up getting worse. Tell me how did you cope with all of this, if you went through similar situation in your past. I need some hope. Thanks for reading [Update 1 ](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/y6cvzy/update_asked_my_husband_if_he_still_loved_me_his/) (17 Oct 22) **UPDATE - Asked my husband if he still loved me. His answer: You ask some difficult questions** Hello you all. First of all, thanks for the kind messages and PM I received. I cannot thank you guys enough. I just wanna make an update and also vent a little bit. So, after the decision to get separated, things got better at home. I believe that a weight has been removed from our shoulders, so we had almost no arguments. We were being kind to one another and my anxiety got better, as well as my depression. Things were so good that we made the mistake of sleeping together. That gave me lots of hope. Maybe, we would find our way back together. After that, we talked. I told him we could not repeat that. I still have feelings for him, so it would hurt me a lot if the sex meant nothing to him. We had a mediation session and tears were all over. We agreed he would no longer hug me when I left in the morning. The mediator said we had to cut those physical connections to avoid repeating the same mistake. Also, he would clear his office which would become my new bedroom. It was difficult, but we cut off the hugs after a couple days. He, on the other hand, asked for the day off at work. I though it would be to clean the office, but no. Later he told me he has an internal fight. he didn't want the separation (????), but he believed that it was necessary, because we were not happy together. I remind him he is the one who doesn't love me anymore, and that I am unhappy due to my depression. A couple days later we were discussing something and messages kept popping up on my phone. It was a Reddit male friend (call X) who has the same name as a friend (call Z) I have over here. This same day, I would go to a party where Z would be attending. My ex got a bit uncomfortable and asked me if Z and I were flirting. I said no, and explained that the messages were from X, who lives in another country. He was clearly jealous and when I returned from the party, my ex tried to have sex with me, which I denied. The next day, we talked about that and I asked him about his feelings. I ensured him I was not interested in other people. Also, that, once again, we could not have sex if he didn't love me anymore. I asked him if he was unsure about his feelings, but He said he was just horny, nothing else. I felt so disrespected. He knew about my feelings and tried having sex with me because he was horny??????? The next days I kept sending him photos of the new furniture I would need to buy for my new room. I was asking him some advices regarding the size of them. None of them was good: too big, too small, to expensive...After that, I reminded him that he needed to clean the office. I told him that sharing a room was making things difficult for me. So, I asked him if he was having second thoughts, because he was delaying it, plus, he was issues with every suggestion I made regarding the furniture. He didn't even think twice before answering: "Nah, I am being just lazy. You are complicating things." He suggested I could clean it myself. I reminded him that this was his job, and that we had agreed on that during the mediation. Yeah, this super sincere answer hurt, but...Now we are back to arguments. Again, he does not accept my emotions and get angry or rude to me, anytime I say something he doesn't like. Sometimes I feel like he deliberate confuses me, so I don't move on. [Update 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/yayvn4/update_2_asked_my_husband_if_he_still_loved_me/) (22 Oct 22) **UPDATE 2: Asked my husband if he still loved me. His answer: You ask some difficult questions.** Just a quick update. We had a mediation session earlier this week. I spoke about the mixed signals he sent me, how they confused me and gave me hope. The Mediator said exactly what you guys said: “there is not coming back now, you made your decision clear, Ben (my ex). Can you see how you make her feel? It is not helpful.” He cried and apologized to me. After the session I had a very depressive episode where I couldn’t stop crying. He put me in bed, gave me my medicine and stayed with me until I fell asleep. This same night he started cleaning the office. Yesterday he went to the store to get my new mattress, so I didn’t have to wait for delivery nor do it by myself. He also measured the things I needed and helped me with everything related to the new furniture. I think reality wasn’t hitting him so deep down as it was supposed to be. Our next step will be the worst one: to tell the kids what’s going on. I already prepared notes to send to their teachers and got a therapist in case they need someone to talk to. Once again, thanks for the kind messages and suggestions. I feel much better now. [Update 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/ym6j06/update_3_asked_my_husband_if_he_still_loved_me/) (5 Nov 22) **UPDATE 3: Asked my husband if he still loved me. His answer: You ask some difficult questions.** Hello again. My ex said something a time ago regarding a lost friendship and I would like to use this metaphor over here. This separation feels like grieving without a body to grieve on. I have to go through all the mourning phases, as if I have lost something. I did lose my emotional support, my confidant and who I used to lean on.  I am learning how to walk alone again, and it hurts a lot. However, I am fine. It does not hurt as much as before and I feel less lost. I denied, I got angry, then tried to bargain. I got more depressed and hurt, but finally I arrived at acceptance. Each stage had its own time. I needed help to get over each one of them. I am not ready to date anyone, but I am having a blast getting to know new people. My ex, on the other hand, is having a hard time. He cried a lot last week, got angry, tried to annul the separation and get back together. He asked me to change my passwords, so he would not give in to the desperation to check my phone. I tried to help him, because I am like that. I love him, he is part of my life and my kid's dad. I cannot leave him suffering. So I offered him some help, some support. But also, I respected my limits, my boundaries and I didn't betray my process. I didnt let him kiss me, but I gave him a hug when he needed. I was able to separate each feeling, because I was being his friend, not his wife anymore. And I was able to do that without jeopardizing my progress of acceptance. Now I sleep better, I can concentrate on my job, tell friends about my separation and feel that my anxiety and depression are getting better. I am helping him as much as I can, but I accept that the separation is necessary at the moment. I accept that we might get back together in the future, or not. I am not anxious about it right now. I am accepting the present and the past, and hoping for a better future. And for the first time, in months, I told my therapist that in a couple months I might be able to reduce the dose of my medication.  There is hope. There is a light at the end. We just need to accept that everything takes its own time...  [Update 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zg2mul/update_4_asked_my_husband_if_he_still_loved_me/) (8 Dec 22) **UPDATE 4: Asked my husband if he still loved me. His answer: You ask some difficult questions.** Hello!!! It's been a while, but so much has happened that I dont even know what to think about it. So, I decided to come here and tell you all about it. Please, you can judge me if you feel like it. So, I went to a birthday party with some friends and I met someone, let's call him Nate. He is very nice, has a beautiful smile, and is also divorced (his ex told him she didnt love him anymore and asked for the divorce. O.o). But there is a problem, he used to be my ex's coworker. So, during the party, he and I talked a lot, due to so much in comun. My friend reminded me we were both single and we were definitely enjoying each other's company. The party was amazing and I was drinking a lot, so I decided I would stay for the night in my friend's house. I was sitting on the floor when Nate came to sit close to me with a gorgeous smile. I felt like a thousand butterflies were in my stomach. We were laughing, talking and he was sitting very very close to me. Suddenly he tried to kiss me, but I said no. I totally freaked out. I invited him outside so we could talk away from people. I said I thought that being with him would be a bad idea, due to my ex (Ben) knowing him. When his ex asked for the divorce, he was very sad and told my ex about it. They were not friends, but they could have been. Nate told me he was really into me, complimented my beauty and my smile, and held my hand. We were both drinking a lot, so I just gave in and kissed him back. And it was amazing. I was not checking my phone and Ben was trying to reach me out to check if I was really okay. I usually dont drink to the point I cannot drive or take an uber. So, Ben contacted my friend to ask if I was okay. So, my friend texted me to let me know what was going on, since she knew I was with Nate. She told Ben I was with her, sleeping. When I came home in the morning he started asking me questions: Where I was, Who I was with... I told him I didnt have to answer him, it was my privacy. So, I found out he checked all my social media accounts and messages, read all my private messages with my friend and wrote nasty things to her due to her lie. He also reached Nate and said nasty things to him too. He said they were friends and that Nate had betrayed him. Furthermore, he used a fake account (as sexy girl) to message a guy he thought I was with. Ben said I acted like a 20 Years old girl, who had no responsibilities nor kids, because I came back in the morning. I felt terrible after that. I knew my kids were safe with him, but maybe he is right. He said I need to grow up and not go out drinking again like a young girl. It is not the first time he has told me that. Ben cried all day long, asked me to come back to him, to try again, and that he didnt want to lose me. I told him I didnt believe in his love at all, but he swore he truly loved him, that he was mistaken. I met Nate a couple days later to apologize for Ben's reactions. Nate told me things I didnt remember at all (alcohol). According to him I called myself too old to make out with someone, not attractive due to some white hairs and a mother's body, and that I didnt deserve his compliments. Nate was gentle and kind to me and said how much he wanted to spend time with me again. He made me feel beautiful and attractive again, and not too old. Nate will be away for 2 months now. He texted me a couple times and we saw each other again before his departure. He said he understands this is all new to me and too soon, but that he would like to take me on a date when he comes back. I, on the other hand, feel like being with him is wrong, very wrong, and sleeping with or going on a date is even worse. **Reminder - I'm not the OOP**
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"2022-12-15T20:30:25"
OOP’s close friend plagiarized her university assignment without her knowing
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I am not op. This is a repost sub. [The original](https://www.reddit.com/r/college/comments/v6o567/my_friend_plagiarised_my_work_without_me_knowing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) was posted in r/college on June 7, 2022 [The update](https://www.reddit.com/r/college/comments/xz6ycf/my_friend_plagiarised_my_work_without_my/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) was posted on r/college on Oct 9, 2022 __ **My friend plagiarised my work without me knowing** Hi, i sent my friend my assignment just to read as a guide as she was confused about what to do. I had already submitted it and she received an extension, she submitted a week after me. Both our grades werent released which was weird cause it had never happened to me before. Upon asking to read her assignment i realised she had plagiarised about 60% of it. She wants me to lie for her and say we worked together and had the same ideas. I dont want to lie, i dont want to get into trouble either. Its my last year and this was my last assignment before graduation. We will most likely be called in for a meeting. I feel bad for her but at the same time why copy my work? Can someone help. Does this count as collusion even though we never worked together and i specifically had told her not to copy my work just to read it to understand what to do. Its her first offence too and i dont want her to be kicked out over this. She wants me to now tell them we worked together (which we didnt do) but im realising shes doing this to save herself. Bad friend but i still want the best for her. Help? ~~ Comment from OP: >”See its incredibly awkward between me and her now. Her wedding is next week and im maid of honor so you can see how close we are but i couldnt believe she jeopardised me like this” ____ **My friend plagiarised my work without my knowledge update** Hi all, you may have remembered my post from a few months ago where my friend plagiarised my work. I posted this on the UK group but forgot to post it here. I submitted my work and she had an extension. She begged for my assignment as a guide (this was our LAST assignment before we graduate) I thought fine, she's one of my closest friends, I know she wouldn't copy me (MY STUPID MISTAKE). I told her NOT to copy and to just use it as a guide which she agreed. What she did was take all of my work, copy and paste it into a word changing website and handed it in as her own. She insulted my intelligence and the unis intelligence thinking she could get away with it. She then lied to the uni and said we worked together (we didn't) and during our misconduct meetings, I told them the absolute truth, didn't leave anything out and provided them with all the screenshots. She FABRICATED a screenshots to make it look like she was the one helping me (????). Anyway the uni saw straight through her lies with the help of my evidence, the fact that I handed it in a whole week before etc, and only gave me a formal written warning. They released my grade for that assignment and didn't cap me. I realise this is an incredibly lenient decision from the uni and possibly the BEST decision I could have ever asked for. They also took into consideration the fact that I gave birth in first year and have not failed any of my assignments, or submitted any extenuating circumstances throughout my whole 3 years. I'm just proud of myself for getting to where I am today. All the sleepless nights really paid off! This friend knew I used to put my child to sleep and stay awake all night to do my assignments! Safe to say, be careful who your friends are and DONT send anyone your work, this has caused me months of grief and I've learnt a massive lesson. Cant wait to start my masters! 🙏🏼 ___ I AM NOT OOP. THIS IS A REPOST SUB.
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"2022-12-15T21:07:52"
Neighbor kept parking on my property - so I had him towed
REPOST
**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/jeleki2020 in r/entitledparents** ---   [**Neighbor kept parking on my property - so I had him towed**](https://www.reddit.com/r/entitledparents/comments/pjc774/neighbor_kept_parking_on_my_property_so_i_had_him/) - 7 September 2021 Hello everyone. First thing is that this issue just happened this week and I am so mad that I am shaking as I type this. I am going to apologize up front if I ramble but I honestly can’t believe this actually happened. I’ve tried to condense this weeks activity into a single story but sadly, it turned out to be super long – sorry in advance. I think I have to put TLDR? Backstory: I’m a single mother of 2 teenage boys and I live in a nice, quiet neighborhood at the end of a cul-de-sac. Every house on this street has a garage and I’m the only one that has a single car ***and*** parks in my garage. Almost every house on this street is a family home with at least 3 cars, but most have more. Some will park in their drive-way and some will park on the street. It’s never been a problem since everyone is considerate on how they park and no one has ever had an issue with getting in and out of the street. In addition, I tend to keep to myself. I’m not antisocial and I wave and say hello to my neighbors when I come and go from my home but usually when I get home – I stay home. So, I say all of this to give you an idea that I’m a homebody and my neighbors pretty much know that when I get home – I stay home. About 6 months ago, the house to my right was sold to a larger family that consisted of Dad, Mom, and 3 teenagers. The day they started moving in, I made a point to go over to the edge of the property to wave and greet them in order to welcome them to the neighborhood. They were friendly and I was happy to have such nice people to move in next door. Also note, this family used their garage for storage and thus parked their 4 cars in their driveway. I didn’t know it at the time, but their youngest son was just months away from his 16th birthday. Now that you have a little information, onto the story. The players: Me is me, ND is entitled Neighbor Dad, NS is entitled neighbor son, and NM is entitled Neighbor Mom, and NP is the poor nice police officer. Today is Monday afternoon and this story began last Tuesday. Around 6PM on Tuesday, I received a knock on the door and it was ND. Following is our conversation: ND: Good evening, how are you? Me (talking through the screen door): We’re okay. I’m sorry I can’t open the door but my youngest came home from school with a sore throat today and so I’m not sure what’s going on with him. How are you and how can I help? ND: I’m sorry to hear that – I hope it isn’t anything serious. We are okay. My son just turned 16 a few weeks ago and I’m sure you saw the new truck we bought him. Me: Yes, I did. It’s such a pretty truck and big! Does he like it? ND: Yes, he does! It’s what he wanted so we got it for him. It *is* very big and that’s what I wanted to talk to you about (Let’s take a brief pause here and understand that when I say this truck is very big – it is VERY big. It is an F350! I personally think its too much of a vehicle for a kid learning to drive, but it’s not my money so to each their own) Me: I don’t understand? ND: We have been having complaints from some of the other neighbors that his truck is so big that they can’t get around it when they are driving through and we’re afraid that it might get side swiped if he continues to park it in the street. Me: Yeah, I’ve had some intense moments trying to get around it myself, but I’m sure he will get better at parking as he gets more experienced. I’m not sure what this has to do with me – I haven’t complained. ND: Oh, I know you haven’t complained, which is why I was going to ask if he could use your drive-way to park since you don’t use it. Me (very stunned at this): Um, I do use my driveway when I leave and come home. I can’t get to my garage without using my driveway. Besides, I have issues with depth perception and your son’s truck is so big it will take up most of my driveway and I don’t want to be responsible for any damage that might happen while it is on my property. ND: Well, we will make sure that he parks so that it will allow you to come and go without any issues. Me: That isn’t possible. The only way he can park to allow me to get around him is if he parks halfway on my lawn and that wouldn’t work because then he would damage my lawn. If you are concerned about his truck getting damaged then why don’t you let him park in your drive-way and then one of your other smaller cars can park in the street. ND: We’ve already discussed that and we would have to park 2 cars in the street in order for him to use the driveway. It would be very easy for him to park in your driveway and I can assure you that it will not be an inconvenience to you. You don’t even use your driveway. Me: I’m sorry, but the answer is no. I’m not going to be responsible for his vehicle on my property and I need to be able to come and go without worrying about someone else’s property. ND (very upset at this point): You are not being very neighborly. I thought you were a nice woman. You don’t use your driveway and this would benefit the whole neighborhood. Me (losing my temper at this point): Listen, I told you no and I ***DO*** use my driveway every time I pull into my garage and every time I leave. I’m sorry you don’t have enough parking for all your vehicles, I’m sure its frustrating, but its not my problem that you decided to buy a vehicle that didn’t fit your property. Now, while I also find it irritating to try to navigate the road with that truck in the way, it is public parking and so I deal with it. I will not have anyone else’s vehicle parking on my property. Now, if you don’t mind, I have a sick kid and need to get back to him! Have a good day. With that I closed the door and then looked out the peep hole and saw him give me the bird before he turned to leave. I just shook my head and had to take a moment to understand that I actually just had that conversation. I then loaded my son up in the car and left to take him to minor emergency to get him checked out. All tests came back negative and I was told he probably had a run of the mill virus and to keep him home and do self-care. Was told to bring him in if he got worse but not to worry. I went to work the next day and told my co-workers the story of my neighbor’s request and they were shocked. I had one co-worker suggest that I send an email to my HOA to explain what happened just to get it on record because it was such an odd request. I took her advice and typed up an email that day when I was at lunch and sent it. For those who want to know, it was just an FYI email – not a complaint email. It basically stated that my neighbor made a request to park on my property and when I declined, he got mad at me and I wanted it on record just in case anything ever happens. (so very glad I did!) So, Friday comes and my youngest son has been home sick since Tuesday afternoon. When I got home Friday evening, I checked him and he had begun to run a fever and was complaining of several other things. I had been doing self-care with him since Tuesday and he didn’t appear to be getting any better. Around 7 PM, I decided to take him back to minor emergency and loaded him up in the car. I opened my garage door and I was absolutely shocked to see that very big F350 sitting in my driveway – BLOCKING me! I can’t describe to you how angry I was to see that vehicle sitting there. (Now before anyone starts asking me how I didn’t know it was in my driveway, its because my street is very busy and cars are coming and going all the time and unless someone knocks on my door – I don’t bother watching every vehicle that drives up and down the street. The only window that can see my driveway are the ones in my Kitchen and I keep those curtains drawn and never look out of them). So, I get out of my car and stomp over to my neighbor’s house and bang on their door. NM answers the door and this is the conversation: NM (irritated and kind of angry): Can I help you? You are interrupting our dinner! Me: Your son is parked in my driveway after I told your husband he couldn’t. I need to take my son to minor emergency and that truck is blocking me in! \[Its at this time that ND walks up behind NM and proceeds to talk\] ND: He isn’t blocking you in, you can get around him. Me: No I can’t. You need to move that truck or I’m going to call the police AND a tow truck! I need to get my son in to see a doctor! ND (turning to call for his son and then turning back to me): He’s not blocking you but I will have him move it. Me: It doesn’t matter whether you believe he is blocking me in or not. He is not allowed to park in my driveway. No one is allowed to park in my driveway and if I find an unauthorized vehicle parked in my drive-way again – I’m not going to bother to knock on your door – I’m going to have it towed! It was at this time I saw the son arrive at the door with his keys in his hands and I turned to leave and head to my car to wait for him to move it and I heard him call me that famous “B” word every woman has heard at least once in her life! I ignored him and headed to my car and watched as he got in and after some effort finally was able to back out of my driveway and parked his truck in the street a little way down the road. I was able to leave and take my son to minor emergency where, as we waited for several hours to be seen, I shot off another email to my HOA about what had just happened. I want to advise, the HOA had already responded the day before that they received my email, made a note of it, and advised my property was my own and I could give or deny access to it as I wish. It was this email string that I responded to while waiting for my kid to be seen. Again, all tests administered to my son came back negative and I was told it was a run of the mill virus and he would be fine, the virus just had to run its course. I took him home and called it a day. Saturday evening, my oldest started complaining of a soar throat and I was starting to feel poorly myself. My youngest appeared to be getting better so I figured that whatever he had, that we were getting so we stayed in all day Saturday and Sunday. Sunday evening at about 5:30 my oldest son spiked a fever and while it came down a little, it didn’t come down enough so I loaded him in the car and off to minor emergency we went. The only one I could find that was open on Sunday at this time was on the other side of town so I had to drive 20 minutes just to get there and we ended up waiting for 3 hours to just get in the door and then another 45 minutes till we saw the doctor. After a few more hours and all of his tests come back negative the doctor did state that she could hear some wheezing in his lungs and so she prescribed an inhaler for him to help him but basically told me the same thing that he has a run of the mill virus and to let it run it course. I had to drive even further to the only 24-hour pharmacy available to pick up the inhaler and we did not get back to the house until almost midnight. Let me set the scene for you. My son is half asleep in the passenger seat and complaining that he just wants to go home and I am exhausted and feeling drained and having coughing fits myself and I’m just looking forward to going to bed when I rounded the corner and saw that truck sitting in my driveway. I couldn’t even pull in because he was blocking me and I also noticed that he was parked partially on my lawn. I was so mad I could hardly see straight. I googled and found a 24-hour tow truck service and explained that I had an unauthorized vehicle on my property that I needed towing. The woman said it would be about 30 minutes before they could get a truck there and I said that was fine. In the meantime, I walked my kid to the house and put him to bed and then quickly went outside and took a picture from the street to show how much of the driveway he was taking and that he was also parked on my lawn. I couldn’t understand why they would park in my driveway again after I had told them no and the only thing I could come up with is that since there had been no activity at my house for hours that my neighbors probably assumed I was in for the night and wouldn’t notice the truck in my driveway (this is pure speculation but its normal for me to be in for the night especially after 6PM). I don’t know if they missed me leaving or just saw me leave but figured I was home but it really doesn’t matter because I told them they couldn’t park on my property. It was about 12:30 AM when the tow truck arrived and I half expected my neighbors to come running but there wasn’t any activity from them and the driver left with the truck without incident. I went in, shot off another email to my HOA along with pictures and an explanation that I had towed the vehicle and then went to bed. At 6:00 AM, this morning I woke up to someone banging loudly and rapidly on my door. I didn’t have to look; I knew who it was. I grabbed my phone, hit the video record button. Before I opened the door, I looked through the peep hole and saw ND and his son at my door. I opened the door and following is the conversation: ND(very angry and yelling): Where is the truck?!!! Me (as calmly as I could state while coughing). It was towed. You can call Such and Such Company to make arrangements to get it back. ND: You didn’t have the right to tow it. You’re going to pay to get it back! Me: I had every right to tow an unauthorized vehicle on my property. I told you not to park on my property and you did it anyways. It blocked me from getting in my driveway last night. I told you I was going to have it towed after the last time you parked without my permission. And I won’t be paying anything to get it back. ND: You stole my truck “you f’n B” and I’m calling the police. I’m going to sue you! Me (having enough of this): Go ahead. In the meantime, I’m sick and I’m going back to bed. I closed the door and stood there for a moment. I looked out the peep hole and they were still there. ND started banging and was also ringing my doorbell non-stop. He knocked and rang my doorbell for another 4 minutes before he gave up. I am still recording all of this and I didn’t turn off the video he was gone. I turned and saw my kids standing there. The noise had gotten them up and I just advised that if they were still feeling ill, to just go back to bed because that was where I was going. Now I will honestly say that I didn’t think he would call the police, but he DID! It was about a half hour (I really wasn’t looking at the clock) that I heard the doorbell ring. I got up and looked through the peep hole and a police officer was there. I opened the door and had the following conversation. NP: Good morning ma’am. Sorry to bother you, but we had a report from your neighbor. He is stating that you “stole” his son’s truck by having it towed from the street and we need to talk to you about this issue. Me: Good morning officer. My neighbor is only telling you half the story. I had his truck towed this morning from MY driveway when I returned home from minor emergency. I couldn’t get into my driveway and I have already told him twice that him and his family can’t park on my property. This issue started last week and I have emails to my HOA, pictures of his truck parked in my driveway this morning, and a video of my neighbor’s visit this morning where he called me names and told me he was going to sue me and call the police. I can show you if you would like? NP: Yes. So, you are saying that the truck in question was on your property without your permission and that you had it towed? Me: Yes. Last Tuesday he asked if I would allow his son to park in my driveway. I told him no and he got mad at me and flipped me off before leaving. Then Friday evening, when I was leaving, I discovered his son had parked in my driveway and I couldn’t leave my garage. I went over and demanded they remove the vehicle and I told them at that time that I would have the truck towed if they parked on my property again. I came home late this morning and the truck was in my driveway – so I had it towed. NP: I just want to confirm, you are saying that it wasn’t parked on the street but in your driveway. And you have proof of this? Me: Yes sir. If you will give me a minute, I will print off the emails that I sent to the HOA that documents the issues and I will also show you the picture and video as well. With this, the police officer said that he would wait for me to print everything off. Once I got the emails printed, I then returned to the door. Opened my photos app to the officer to show the truck in my driveway, timestamped. Handed my phone and printed emails to him. After looking at the photo where you could clearly see my house in the background, the truck blocking the entrance and that it was partially on the lawn, the officer then read the printouts. He handed my phone back to me and asked me to open the video that I had referenced while he went over to the lawn to look. I watched him look at the area and then take a few photos. I could see my neighbor and his whole family standing in their driveway watching me and the NP. NP returned and I handed him back my phone with the video ready and he watched it. After he finished watching the video, we had the following exchange: NP: I am going to need a copy of that photo and video for my file. If I provided you with an email, would you be able to send it to me? Me : Yes sir. No problem. NP: I have enough information for my files to determine that the vehicle was not on public property and was in fact on your property. I’ve made a note that you did not give permission for the vehicle to be parked on the property. Based on the emails you gave me with dates and time, it appears you did in fact advise your neighbor not to park on your property. Would you like to file a trespassing report for this incident? Me: Oh, absolutely. NP: I can see you are not feeling well. You can either file with me now or you can go online. [getting business card out, writing on it, and then handing it to me]. Here is my business card with my email address that you need to use to send me your photo and video and the case # is on the card as well. Do you want to file with me now? Me: Honestly, I’m exhausted and would prefer to file online later. NP: Okay. Reference this case # when you email your evidence and file the online report. Also reference my name in the report. One more thing - I saw in the video where ND stated he was going to sue you for having the truck towed. He can sue you if he wants and I would advise that you keep all of the evidence you provided me with today along with the case # I just gave you. Give it a few days and you can request a copy of the report and you will want to keep that as well. If you decide to file an online report, you will need to keep a copy of that as well. I’m going to go talk to ND now and sorry to have bothered you. Me: Thank you officer. I’m sorry you had to come out. NP: Have a good day ma’am. Get some rest. With that, I closed the door and went back to bed. However, I am so mad that I didn’t get any sleep. A few hours ago, I sent off my photo, video, and another copy of the HOA emails to the email address the police officer gave me and then saved all of that information just in case. I also filed a trespassing report online. I then sat down and started typing this story. Not sure where this is going to go, but I am going to see it through. I know that I’m going to get a lot of pushback from people saying that I should have just knocked on their door and had them move the truck but I feel that I was right to have the truck towed. I had already told them twice not to park on my property and it didn’t stop – so this was the consequence. I will post an update later if there is anything that comes of my report or if ND does actually follow up on his threat and sue me. If you read all of this, thank you and again, I’m sorry for the length. **Update:** OMG, this thing blew up and I'm just amazed. Thank you everyone for your comments and awards. I had posted this because I was second guessing myself and thought maybe I had let my sickness and anger outweigh my judgement but your comments have made me feel more secure with the decision I made. I have so many comments that I can't respond to everyone so I wanted to address a few repeating comments that I saw: #1. This is a real story and if you don't believe it, then that's on you. #2. Yes, I live in a quiet neighborhood and my specific road is busy. There are 12 houses on my street. Busy road doesn't mean noisy. I guess I caused confusion when I said I was at the end of the the Cul-de-sac. I'm the last house right before the cul-de-sac starts, so I consider myself at the end. Cul-de-sac doesn't mean no traffic, I still have neighbors and guests drive by and the cul-de-sac is used as a place to turn around. As I previously stated, I'm the only one on with a single car. This is a family neighborhood and there are lots of cars that drive in our area and on our street. They are residents and guests. #3. Cameras. I don't have any cameras and I will have to save up to get some and based on the comments I will make that a priority. I have to budget to get extra stuff. My neighbor across the street have cameras and I'm almost certain the front of my house is covered by them. There is no way they can cover the front of their property without getting the street and my front yard covered. This doesn't bother me and when I'm feeling better, I will go ask them about the coverage. #4. I did take a look at my HOA paperwork and it does mention that street parking is acceptable but only if it doesn't impede traffic. I'm assuming that since some of the neighbors made a complaint about the truck, that the HOA must have said something to him which is why he was trying to use my driveway. This is purely an assumption. #5. For those telling me I should have damaged the truck in some way - I just can't do that. Was it wrong for them to park on my property - yes, but that doesn't mean I have to be like them. I'm satisfied with just towing the truck and the report I filed. If things don't escalate then I will call it a win. If they do, then I will certainly respond. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not a push-over. I will not start anything or escalate anything unnecessarily - but if they escalate I will stand my ground. #6. Yes, myself and my oldest are still sick but getting better every day. My youngest was able to return to school this morning. Thank you all again for your support and I will certainly update you when I know anything else. **Update 2:** So I know a lot of you have been wanting an update, but I wanted to wait until I got a copy of the police report before I did, which I got this afternoon. Sadly, it didn't go anywhere. I was kind of hoping that he would have a false report charged against him, but the report states that NS told ND that he parked it in the street in front of my house and that is why ND called the police. The NP had questioned both of them after he spoke to me and that is when NS said he had lied to his dad and had actually parked in my driveway. I guess they don't believe he did it intentionally, so no charges were filed and the report was closed. I don't believe it but that's how it goes. The trespassing report I filed has not been closed yet. I was told that if he is convicted that it is just a misdemeanor and he would have to pay a fine, maybe 10 days of jail, and/or community service. Also, it would be the son who would be listed as the trespasser and since he is a minor, I'm not sure where that will go. But, I discovered that if he is convicted then I could use that to have a protective order done. Will have to follow up later on the trespassing. So, I am getting a lot of messages asking about the truck and if there has been any retaliation. Yes, the neighbors got the truck back and no, I don't know how much it cost them to do so, and yes he is still parking in the street but he is parking it further down next to the entrance of the road. As far as I can tell, they haven't done anything to my property and they haven't said anything to me since that day; although, I have gotten some pretty nasty glares and looks from them when I see anyone from their family. I was amazed by how many offers I received from all of you to help me get some cameras. This has touched me greatly. I would like to say thank you for the offers, but I am okay. I was able to talk to several of my neighbors and I found out that my neighbors that are 3 houses from me may have been the reason that he asked to use my property. I discovered that the man who lives in that house tried to leave for work one morning (he leaves at like 4 AM) and he couldn't get around NS truck. So he bangs on ND's door until ND finally got up and went out and moved his son's vehicle. I don't know the details of the conversation but I know there were angry words and a veiled threat if NS truck kept being a problem. Other neighbors confirmed they had made complaints to HOA, but HOA wasn't really helping. Apparently, some other people on the block have had other issues besides the truck since he has moved in and so this family isn't well liked before this whole issue. Word has spread about what happened and now there is a "watch" going on. I have told everyone that I would just like for things to die down and have asked that no one instigate or does anything on my behalf. I told a couple of my neighbors about this post and one of them has a reddit account, so she said she was going to follow the post. And no, I'm not going to post a photo or video because I don't want to risk starting anything. If there is a chance that I can go back to my peaceful existence then that is what I want to do. If you need that information to prove this story is true then you are free to not believe it. Also, I wasn't clear when I was talking about emailing my HOA. My HOA didn't do anything but log the complaints I was making and tell me that my property is mine and that they can't do anything about what they consider a "civil" matter. The reason my emails to the HOA were so important was because they contained date/time of the the information and that matched what I had told the officer. My HOA really isn't very good. In addition, some of my neighbors have cameras. I spoke to the lady across the street and her cameras weren't very helpful. They are at an angle and zoomed in on a bird bath in her yard (I guess she likes to watch them) and wasn't meant for security. However, the neighbor beside her went out and adjusted his cameras (he has a lot of them) and was able to cover most of my front yard and part of the side that faces him without sacrificing coverage of his property. It doesn't get my whole yard but he was able to get the driveway. So anything going forward should be caught. I still plan to save up for some of my own, but now it isn't such a big priority. And the retired man down the street knocked on my door yesterday and gave me his phone number. Told me if I got a visit from anyone from that house again to call him and he would come take care of it. and that he would make sure to keep an eye out. So I am feeling very blessed to have these neighbors. I again want to thank everyone for their support and I don't really have much else to update except for when the trespassing report plays out, which I don't know how long that will take, but I will certainly update once I do. I wish you all the best of everything and again - thank you! **Final Update:** So first off, I want to apologize for taking so long to update. I've been waiting for the court date to be over before updating and for some reason it got postponed twice before finally getting settled yesterday. I'm going to try and make this a short update, but no promises, LOL! While waiting for things to progress, I discovered from the neighbor across the street that NS had been caught parking in one of the neighbors down the street's house and I was able to get a notarized statement from that neighbor about the incident and was able to include it as supporting documents on my report. Sadly, I was disappointed with the outcome at court because it ended up that he got a fine of $150 and that was it. Judge did stress that he can't just park where he wants and to be kind to his neighbors. I would also like to add that I personally haven't been bothered by that family - other than dirty looks when we're both out at the same time. Furthermore, I found out that he and his family either found this post or was told about this post and are very angry about it and have mentioned that I am slandering him and that I lied, but he hasn't said anything directly to me. I also have been able to save up for a camera system and my ex-husband came over and installed them on my house and he made a very big show of doing it - so I now have eyes on my property when I'm not looking. There are two good things that have happened. The first is that, after NS was caught parking in the other neighbor's driveway, the family started playing "musical cars" with all their vehicles. They had been constantly moving cars in and out of the driveway in order to accommodate that huge truck and it has been watched with delight from the entire street. I think it finally broke ND because about 2 weeks ago, they got rid of NS truck and replaced it with a much smaller truck that can easily be parked in the street. So I feel like this is some kind of victory in itself. But the BEST thing that has come of this whole thing has been the older man down the street. He's the one that I mentioned in my last update that he gave me his phone number and told me to call him if I had any issues. I never called him but I came home one day and I noticed that my yard had been mowed, weeded (is that the correct word?) and edged. I've never seen my yard look this good - I certainly don't have the skills to do that! I was shocked and I was thinking that maybe my ex-husband had taken pity on my and did it - even though I knew that was far fetched (I had to beg him for weeks to do the cameras!). Before I could get settled in, someone knocked on my door and when I answered the door - it was the older man. He said he had seen me out pushing the lawn mower around and lugging around a weedeater that was bigger than me and since he had a riding mower, he decided he would save me some trouble and mowed my yard. I thank him profusely and tried to pay him and he declined the money and told me he liked doing yard work and he didn't mind helping me out. So I took him over some Chicken Spaghetti that night and he tried to refuse the meal and I told him I enjoyed cooking (I don't really) and that I wanted to show him my appreciation. This man is a widower and doesn't have family in the state so he's mowed my yard regularly until it turned cold and I take him over meals at least 3 times a week and he has even come over for dinner a few times. I've talked to him in some form almost every day. I had a leaky sink and he fixed it over my protests. I lost my grandfather several years back and I have missed him greatly and this man reminds me of my grandfather. He tells my boys stories of his time in the Military, about his kids and late wife, and gives them advise (he regularly used ND and his family as a "not what to do"), and he has become almost like my 2nd grandpa. Thanksgiving is just going to be me and my boys this year and so I invited him over for Thanksgiving and after much begging and persuading - he has agreed. I'm going to invite him for Christmas as well and I have socked away some extra money and we are going to make sure that he has a present under our tree this year. I guess I should go thank ND and his family cause their entitlement made it possible for us to have some "family" for the holidays. Thank you all for your support and concern and don't worry about me anymore - I got my 2nd grandpa looking after me!   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-15T21:22:32"
OOP asks if p*dophiles can change
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The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws
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"2022-12-15T22:59:34"
[NEW UPDATE] My white husband confessed to me that he enjoys “race play” fantasies
NEW UPDATE
**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/throwawayegg52 in r/trueoffmychest** trigger warnings: >!racism, domestic abuse, rape!< ---   [**My white husband confessed to me that he enjoys “race play” fantasies**](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z2bdsz/my_white_husband_confessed_to_me_that_he_enjoys/) - 23 November 2022 I’m black and my husband is white. Yesterday he admitted to me that recently he’s started to like something called “race play” which means that he has sexual fantasies about racist situations. To be honest I still don’t know a lot about it but an example that he gave me is that he has a fantasy about being a plantation owner while I’m a slave that he keeps as a mistress. I can’t stand to look at him any more because all I feel is disgust. He knows that I have been in relationships where I was objectified in the past and I know that people can’t control their sexual interest but I can’t separate this image of my husband being attracted to racist situations from the man that I fell in love with and married. He asked me if I was willing to give it a chance but I told him that I didn’t want to and now he’s sleeping in the guest room because we had a fight about me not being supportive. I think this might end my marriage but I love him and want to work through it somehow **Update:** I talked to my husband over lunch. I did what some of you suggested and asked him where he got the idea from and how he started to like it. Most of you were right. He discovered it on a porn site and began watching more porn videos featuring it. He told me that it’s been about two months since he discovered it. Then he asked me again if I would give it a chance for him. When I told him that I was uncomfortable with it he got upset again and asked why I wouldn’t support him. He even offered that we could try it once and then if I didn’t like it we wouldn’t have to do it again. But when I said no he got frustrated and we started to argue. He reminded me of all of the things that he has done for me and how much he always supports me and then called me manipulative. He has now left with the car to go spend time with his friends. I’ve been crying for the past fifteen minutes and I don’t know what else to do **Update 2:** A couple of commenters have asked about it since the first update a couple of hours ago. I am now trying to see if one of my friends will let me stay with them for a day or two so that I can clear my head. I am no contact with most of my family and the family members that I still talk to live several states away, so staying with family is not an option. And my husband owns the house so I can’t change the locks or tell him not to come home. **Update 3:** It is currently the middle of the night here. I left our house and am now staying with a good friend, and I will be staying here until this evening. I’ve been here for a few hours now. I did not see my husband before my friend picked me up, but I left him a voicemail to tell him that I needed space to clear my head. I also did what some of you suggested and said in the voicemail that I felt pressured by him into doing something that I didn’t want. He has since heard the voicemail and has called and texted begging me to come home. He wants to come pick me up from her house in the morning but I said no. He accused me of abandoning him right before Thanksgiving and his best friend has also texted me to tell me that I’m a bad wife for treating my husband like this when he pays for everything and supports my lifestyle. To be honest it made me cry more than what my husband said. I don’t think I will be able to get any sleep tonight after this. This is not a part of the update but I have received a lot of questions through comments and direct messages so I will answer a few of them here. 1. I do not know if my husband has a porn addiction. To be honest I am not sure how to tell if someone has a porn addiction. 2. I am 25 and my husband is 33. We have been together for 3 years, almost 4. But we have only been married for 1 year. 3. My husband is the sole earner in our house. I am a stay at home wife and do not have any income. 4. We do not have any children together but were planning to start a family next year. I want children but I am going to put it on hold until I figure things out of course. 5. We have done domination in the bedroom before so this porn did not awaken that kink in him. 6. All of my husband’s ex-girlfriends are white. Aside from two guys that I dated in high school and my husband, all of the men that I’ve dated have been Hispanic or black. 7. Yes we live in the south but I do not feel comfortable disclosing what state.   [**My husband is accusing me of ruining Thanksgiving because I won’t come home to host for the family**](https://www.reddit.com/r/JustNoSO/comments/z3r8ai/my_husband_is_accusing_me_of_ruining_thanksgiving/) - 24 November 2022 Hello and happy Thanksgiving to all that celebrate. I apologize if this post seems like a ramble but I have had a very difficult last few days so my thoughts are a little incoherent. I was pointed in the direction of this subreddit by a user who private messaged me because she thought that I would benefit from it. My husband confessed to having a fetish the other day that I am very uncomfortable with. We had a fight about it and he accused me of not being supportive of him because I told him that I wouldn’t give it a chance. This led to him sleeping in our guest room and more arguments, and after consulting with others from a different subreddit I had a good friend pick me up and take me to her house while he was out with his friends. She offered to let me spend Thanksgiving with her and her family so I left him a voicemail before I left telling him where I was and that I would be home after Thanksgiving dinner. Now he won’t stop texting and leaving voicemails begging me to come home. He has also accused me of abandoning him on Thanksgiving even though I’m supposed to cook and host for his immediate family today. To be honest I am worried about ruining Thanksgiving. His family loves to celebrate holidays, and Thanksgiving is his mother’s favorite. I host and cook for every holiday except for Independence Day and Easter. I know that his siblings are not going to care, but it’s his parents that I’m worried about. I have a good relationship with them aside from their nosiness but they are traditional and I worry that if I don’t come home and host it will strain our relationship. My husband thinks that I’m going to ruin the entire holiday if I refuse to come home since he can’t cook and he thinks it will be cruel of me to let his family come to our home expecting dinner when there will be nothing to eat because of me. **Update:** While I was preparing dinner with my friend my husband called me. His family has arrived and his parents aren’t happy with his explanation about why I’m not there. He didn’t tell them the truth and I don’t know what he said but apparently the excuse that he gave was not a good one because they blame him for it. His mother has taken over making all of the food and instead of turkey she will be reheating some leftover chicken for them to eat. Apparently she scolded him for fighting with me during a holiday when it’s supposed to be about spending time with family and reflecting on why you love them. He sounded like he was about to cry while talking. He asked me if I was happy that his with his mother and father was ruined because I wanted to be spiteful and hurt him instead of just putting my feelings aside and spending time with him and his family, and he said that his friend was right about me being a bad wife because I stooped low enough to embarrass him to his family by ghosting them on a holiday. Then he told me that he is coming to get me at 7:30 and hung up. To be honest I feel awful for making him cry. I know that I should be happy that his parents are supportive even if he did not tell them the real reason, but my husband rarely cries. I feel terrible for hurting him like that. I think that I messed up by not going home but I don’t know what to do. **Edit:** Not an update but please stop suggesting that I go to my family. I am no contact with most of my family, including my parents, for a reason that I do not feel comfortable disclosing. The family members that I am in contact with are more distant relatives. And before any of you ask: no, my husband does not have anything to do with why I’m no contact with my parents. I have been no contact with them since before we entered a relationship, and he has never met them.   [**Update**](https://www.reddit.com/user/throwawayegg52/comments/zbk05r/update/) - 3 December 2022 A lot has happened and I have not been able to come back here until this morning. I’m sorry After my last post I did go home with my husband. He locked himself in the bathroom but he did eventually come out. We had a conversation and I apologized for upsetting him. He also apologized for making me cry. That Friday he made his friend apologize to me and he also apologized to me for everything else and said that he wanted to fix things. He bought me a necklace and bracelet during his Black Friday shopping to show how much he loves me. That night we slept together for the first time since all of this started. It was fine and nothing strange really happened but I still felt weird, but I decided to just ignore it. I brought up starting therapy to him a few times over the weekend but he got very upset and defensive whenever I tried to bring it up so after a few days I just let it go and decided to just try and move on He took me on a small vacation to a resort in our state this week because he thought that having time away from everything would help us get closer after the unpleasantness. I was happy to get some time away to clear my head and spend time with him so we could make things work so I agreed. I loved spending time with him. Things were fine until Wednesday night. We went to the beach that day and then saw a movie. When we got back to the resort that night he asked me again if I would give his fantasy a chance. Of course I said no. But he insisted and got frustrated when I refused again. He blew up on me and asked why I was doing this to him when he’s been doing everything right. To be honest I got very scared and tried to go in the bathroom but he grabbed me before I could and pinned me down I couldn’t do anything about it. I just layed there and cried. He said some awful things to me and made me say awful things too. I feel disgusting and now I can barely stand to look at or think about myself. I’ve thrown up most food I’ve had since and I’m having nightmares We came back home today and I’ve been in our room the entire time. He has been acting like nothing happened and thinks that I just came down with the flu or coronavirus. I wish that I had listened to you all. You all were right and now I don’t know what to do   [**Update 5**](https://www.reddit.com/user/throwawayegg52/comments/zflshv/update_5/) - 8 December 2022 I am feeling exhausted from everything happening currently but I thought that I would update everyone to let you all know that I am currently staying with a friend. To be honest I’ve been depressed these last few days and my nightmares have only increased. I haven’t seen my husband in person since I left but he won’t stop calling and texting begging for me to come home. I don’t know what I’m going to do yet but I am grateful for all of the kind words and support   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws
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The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws
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RTFKT is now Airdropping Footballverse jersey NFTs! Argentina vs France! Only 1000 NFTs claimable!
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The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws part 4
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The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws, part 5
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"2022-12-15T23:25:51"
The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws, part 1
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Go grab some snacks and a blanket, this is suuuuuper long. I compiled it in a Microsoft Word document and it’s 43 pages 😳😳 These posts were made by Burneraccount-909876, almost entirely in r/EntitledPeople. It was [previously posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/paev3n/buckle_up_this_is_a_long_and_wild_ride_op/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on BORU by simply posting all the links of the posts that had been put up at that time. The update will be separated by 🆕🆕🆕🆕🆕 about halfway through “PART 3”. I made some minor formatting edits, but everything else I pasted exactly as-is. [PART 1]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzs61/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_1/), [PART 2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmztmz/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_2/), [PART 3]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzvwr/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_3/), [PART 4]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzxd6/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_4/), [PART 5]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzyx3/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_5/) ——— [**AITA for not paying for a holiday when my SIL demands it?**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/hkf6r3/aita_for_not_paying_for_a_holiday_when_my_sil/) submitted July 2020 in r/AmITheAsshole, but removed for exceeding the character limit. [**The story of a Sil who demands a holiday**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/hkff57/the_story_of_a_sil_who_demands_a_holiday/) submitted July 2020 Burner account since people I know follow me on Reddit. I can’t go in too much details due to anonymity. Also, very, very long story. Apologies. To start. I’m 46F, are married and have 3 kids. 10 years ago we came in to money, a lot of money. I worked hard in my specific field which earns a lot, I had done some smart investments and they have paid out. I have been steadily adding to my bank account for these years. My husband considers this ‘my’ money, we don’t have a prenup. Hence, I will talk as it is mine. When the first payload came in I did what my husband and I always discussed if we would have the money. Mortgage was paid off, I bought a new car and I managed to buy a nice house in our favourite holiday destination. We rent this one out to a very nice family for most of the year. We set up college funds for our children. Each an equal amount which should be enough to pay for 5 years. If there is money left from the fund, the children can use this as a downpayment on their own house or apartment. When the money kept coming in, thanks to the investments and my work, I looked towards what could be done for my immediate family. My husband has 2 sisters and we have 5 nieces and nephews on his side from 1 of the sisters . My brother has 2 children as well. It was decided that all of the nieces and nephews would have college funds as well, for the same amount as my children under the same strict stipulations. I would get the information about the costs and make sure everything is paid. My eldest niece had already started college so I paid the amount already paid to her parents to keep everything fair. She managed to finish within the 4 years and has some money left. I had an accountant (dear friend) find out what would be beneficial to my brother and one of my SIls in regards to their mortgage. I paid off the majority for the both of them. My parents were sent on a nice trip, since their house is already paid of and for both my IL’s and other SIL rent so I paid a certain amount so they can save that money. Part of the money goes to charity at home and abroad. I also set up some college funds for the children of our closest friends and family members. As a treat, Hubby, LO and I went on a paid by us/me vacation with both my own extended family and his. Now, At this point everyone is very grateful. However, one of the SIl’s always has a need to be in the spotlight or that one or all of her children need to be. She’s nice to my face but I know for a fact that she has been bad mouthing me, makings passive aggressive remarks about me and my work and my person but always in such a manner that you would be the bitch/asshole if you would say something. My usual tactic and one that works always is….play the innocent/dumb one and nitpick on what she says. I have managed to shut her up many times without being classified as a bitch. So the past few years SIL has been hinting that I should pay for a very nice, all inclusive resort holiday for her and her family abroad, since I have the money. (Note: they have money saved that would initially been used for the college funds of their kids. Money that has barely been used.) COVID hit and she has been silent, she and her husband took and still take it very seriously. Now that restrictions are mostly lifted she had a birthday party for her and her son since her son really wanted to have a party. No biggie, we show up with a gift for her and her son and all is well. Birthday boy got a voucher to buy a tent or the camping gear he wanted. SIL got a voucher to use whatever way she wanted. I added some sunscreen, drinks and such as I knew she wanted to go on a holiday of some sorts. Or so we thought. She asks what our holiday plans are. We say that we won’t be crossing any foreign borders, stay in home country but we booked a cabin somewhere for a week. Very nice, not luxurious or anything. We would still need to cook and do the grocery shopping. SIL starts on the ‘oh how nice. We are still thinking about what we want to do.‘ My lovely hubby and I both have an inkling what she’s hinting at but we start spouting ideas in the hopes of avoiding tragedy. We have family at one place, maybe they could stay there for a weekend or so. There is a campsite somewhere else, with entertainment for children of various ages. Then it comes. She shows us something she found on the world wide web and to be honest, it looks amazing, not too luxurious but still very nice. All inclusive, waterpark for the kids, spa centre, the whole shebang. Price tag for a family of 7? 35.000 dollars. So Hubby says that’s a lot but is glad they saved so much to do this. SIL then goes, ‘oh we don’t. We thought you would be paying, as my birthday gift.’ Say….what? People, she just told us what she was looking at. No scratch that. She expected me to give about 35.000 dollars as a gift for her birthday, just because I have money. She goes on that I earn enough and they’re family, our godson, other nieces and nephews have been promised already and so forth. We all sat in stunned silence. Birthday boy and 2 of his sisters even looked up to see what we would say while playing with our LOs. Hubby just started laughing, thinking it was a joke. FIL just sat there and looked on and I did a seemingly very good impression of a fish. No SIL was dead serious. ‘You have the money, you can just give it. You won’t miss it.’ This woman has shown her disdain for me and my work many times in a very sweet, passive aggressive manner so that it is hard to call her out on it. Me, hubby and even her father still have done so. I just sat there and listened how she widened her eyes, trying to look sweet (something she does every time she want something) and giving all the reasons why we should give the money, without counting the voucher we gave her. I then regain my wits and just say the full sentence she didn’t want to hear. *Me*: No *SIL*: But you have the money. *ME*: I have money, that is true. *SIL*: So you can pay for it. *ME*: I could indeed…. *SIL*: (interrupting me) Oh that’s great! *ME*:.... but I won’t. *SIL*: But, but, but we deserve it, you won’t miss it, we’re family (yep, unfortunately you and I are family now, I love being family of your kids however) *ME*: Fact: we’re indeed family. Fact: we all deserve a nice holiday after the fluff show called COVID. False: I would surely miss it, since it won’t be in the bank account. (intended that one as a joke). *SIL and BIL*: continue rant about how much they think I should pay for it. *ME*: Listen, you have shown many times you do not respect me or my line of work. You do not respect the fact I worked very hard, made sacrifices to earn this money. You do not respect the fact that I have paid off your mortgage, paid for the college education of your kids and even some money for their own place. You badmouth me, call me names and even told people hubby should divorce me. SIL is trying so hard to deny it. BIL calls me a liar. FIL joins in and sides with me. Her own children tell their father that they have heard their own mother say horrible things about me. Birthday boy even recorded one conversation she had with someone while he was making a TikTok video. He showed this. BIL went mute. Conversation continues. *SIL*: (notices she won’t get the expensive holiday she wanted.) Fine, then don’t pay for this holiday. The least you can do is pay for our plane tickets and let us stay at your holiday home/favourite holiday destination. (Remember, I rent it out to a local family for most of the year? Due to COVID they have to stay there as they can’t/are afraid to travel.) *ME*: not happening. First of all, the family can’t leave. Second, you don’t get to make demands. The voucher you got has a very generous amount of money on it for you to use the way you please. Maybe toward a holiday. Third, we already went on a paid by us/ me holiday. So you got a paid for holiday already. Fourth, if you want more money then get a job that will pay more. You have a degree. Last, you treat me like crap and still expect me to just hand over my hard earned money?! SIL starts the water works and turns to her father… who completely sided with me. He told her he understood me. He told her he knew how hard I worked and the sacrifices me and hubby made for this. Hubby is pissed. He sees red and tells his sister in no uncertain terms that this won’t be happening and how dare they! He tells her that we’re leaving. We pack up the kids and go home. Later we get a call. MIL has FM tendencies as this SIL is her favourite. She tries the whole spiel on how hard they had it before I came into money and helped them, etc. Hubby dealt with her perfectly and she understood after a lengthy conversation. Now here is where I just laugh. Apparently SIL’s kids are pissed that she pulled this stunt and went full rebel mode. We have a great relationship and seemed afraid that this would influence it. They managed to come by and we had a heart to heart. I told them we didn’t blame them for the actions of their parents. I explained to them the reasons for not handing out money like that after the initial gifts. the youngest seemed to side more with mum and dad, but the rest said they understood. They know about their generous college/home funds. I stated to them that we wouldn’t want for them to do anything against their parents as they still live there. They stayed for dinner and then went home. As of now, the kids are barely talking to their parents. They still do their chores, let them know things but that’s it. FM in the form of other family members came in as SIL had sent them messages and called them. A simple facebook post by Birthday Boy with the video put a stop to that. SIL and BIL had an enormous backlash by the FM, calling them out. They have been uninvited to certain events. We have received apologies from the FM. Some told me that they had a hard time as they understood both her and me. The only thing that bothers me is the fact that my PIL are caught in the middle. Especially my MIL who is very family-oriented. I know some of you might/will wonder why I just won’t give the money. One of the reasons why is the way she has treated me, even before I came into the money. Another reason is, that I simply feel uncomfortable just handing out money. I simply ask you to give your opinion in a kindly fashion. AITA for not paying? [**You paid for them? You pay for us!**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/i7pi52/you_paid_for_them_you_pay_for_us/) submitted August 2020 Burneraccount. Long story once more. I was the one who's SIL demanded that I'd pay for a holiday. Here is a part 2. So SIL was very disappointed and angry that I didn't bow down to her every whim and paid for a holiday. For those who read my first post know that I'm well off, thanks to hard work and some luck. We had some FM (flying monkeys) come in because of my SIL. Most backed down and understood where we stood and left us alone. Unfortunately, the whole family of my DH now knows that we have a bank account with $$$$ on it. As SIL had called a lot of family members to complain (and spill the beans), they began talking amongst themselves and their children. Some of the aunts, uncles, and cousins didn't think it fair that I paid for some college funds for some of children of cousins and that I paid for a family holiday. To note: I only have college funds for the children of cousins who we have a close relationship with. That's about 6 cousins with around 12 kids. I'm in this family for almost 20 years and I only see the majority of the aunts, uncles and cousins on the yearly/bi yearly family reunion...if everybody comes. I haven't seen some of them in around 5 to 10 years. A couple of days after the fallout with SIL an A&U ( aunt & uncle) call, something they never do. I put my phone on speaker as I was busy with folding the laundry. They ask how everything is going, how were holding up during the COVID and such. We exchange some experencies and then they both go like this. This is the start of the convo. *A&U*: Listen, we hear you have some college funds set up for some of the children of certain cousins. Is that true? *Me*: Yes, that's true (I'm no liar). *A&U*: Is it true that you took MIl, FIL, SIL1, SIL 2 and family with you on holiday? *Me*: Yes. *A&U*: You also have a holiday home, yes? *Me*: We do, but why do you want and need to know? *A&U*: We never knew you had so much money. *Me*: Well, a lot of hard work, sacrifices, dedication and luck were part of it. *A&U*: Aha. Well, you have to pay for our grandchildren's college funds as well. And we want to go on a holiday with our children too. We deserve it too. *Me*: .....( shocked silence) *A&U*: We're family so you HAVE TO pay! *Me*....( less shocked silence) *A&U*: Yes, we want college funds for your 6 grandchildren, each consisting of $800,000 dollars for each child and we want a holiday home like yours but in location X. We already have one we want. We'll send you the information. And that also goes for our family holiday. We're family and since you have the money, you can pay for us too. *Me*:...( pissed of silence.) They continue to rant that they deserve it because they're family and family takes care of each other. My Hubby, meanwhile, had heard everything and was getting angrier. I had pressed a record button halfway through the convo and ask them to repeat their demands. I eventually asked them if they had more to say which they hadn't. I just flat out said that it wasn’t going to happen. That they might think they're entitled to my money but they weren't. I quoted the phrase they and many of the family gave us when Hubby and I didn't have the money and were in a tight spot because we had a health scare. We asked every family member if we could borrow some money and we would pay it back. Only 3 of the 9 aunts and uncles helped us and we paid them back. The quote? 'It is your responsibility to have and save enough money for the care, well being and education of your family. If you can't then you don't deserve them. We won't be giving you any money.' Stunned silence on their side. I told them to relay the message to the rest and not to call us with such demands. And I hung up the phone. Hubby was very proud. In the weeks that followed the some other the aunts, uncles and cousins called with the same. Only those aunts/uncles who helped us in our time of need called and told us to say that it is our money and that they have seen plenty of it and don't ask for more. One cousin called and asked for a certified loan for a downpayment on a house, something I have agreed to. They had the majority saved but came short of $1000. They had to pay for it sooner as they could get the house sooner.Just now I saw that I received the first half of it. That also raised hell. Then, with the aunts, uncles and cousins we had a Zoom call and I explained to them my reasons for not doing this. I told them that they could always come when they truly needed financial help, but under legal contracts so that neither party would feel themselves screwed over. Cousin who borrowed money even showed the certified/notarised loan. Most seem to understand, not entirely happy, but they knew they could come for help. But for some it wasn't. Then came the cherry on top. I came home last week on a weekday to find a lot of parked cars in an otherwise almost empty street. I had to pass my house in order to park somewhere else and around 15-20 of aunts, uncles and cousins had gathered in the front yard (so much for social distancing.) Afterwards, it were 3 aunts, 3 uncles and some cousins and their spouses. I park the car and walk back home. Now here is something that few people know. I have security cameras around my home that record sound as well. Another thing that a few people know, don't mess with me. I am told that my right hook is very painful. So while walking back, I called the non-emergency line of our local police station. I told them the situation and telling them that crap might hit the fan. If they could come and assist in case it got out of hand. They would send some cops. And crap hit the fan. The moment I stepped in sight of people, they started screaming, cursing, telling me to pay up or they will make sure that I'll pay, one way or the other, all the while cornering me. Some of them poked their finger close to my face and in my chest and arms. I told them multiple times to stop what they were doing and leave. Some time through this, more cops were called by some neighbours as well and when they arrived, were trying to get to me. Then one uncle made a mistake. He slapped me. A man of about 6"3 slapped me, a woman of just 5"2 across the face in full view of the cops. The crowd went silent as he put his face almost in my face and went on a rant that I had to obey HIM as one of the elders of the family, all the while with his hand raised as he would slap me again. He couldn't continue his rant. I knocked him to the ground. He stayed down, not unconcious but quite rattled and stunned that I had punched him. This was apparently what the cops needed as well. The family members were stunned and the cops managed for them to get away from me. They were pissed. A couple of the aunts, uncles and cousins managed to make a run to their car and drive away. The rest got to meet with some very angry cops, some fines for breaking social distancing rules and the expectation that charges might be pressed against them. To shorten the novel already. I'm fine, had some bruised fingers, uncle had a broken cheeckbone, of my lovely cameras are now in the hands of the DA. The other family members have distanced themselves from the crap that happened. To be honest, I feel really crappy. I feel like dividing a family because I just don't hand out my money. Hubby says that this is money that I worked hard for, so I get to decide what happens. Still, I'm thinking of setting some college funds aside for the rest of the children, thought I'm doubting that. It would also seem that I don't stand my ground and can be persuaded with violence, threats and harrassment. I'm so, so sick of it. Edit: To keep myself from repeating. I’ve pressed charges against my uncle for the little love tap he gave me. Thankfully my uncle has not filed counter charges for the love tap I gave him in return. I've been told he asked for anger management courses and a phychological evaluation without prompts. His statement is that he got carried away and felt he was being egged on. He also wrote that he was extremely sorry and never meant to hurt me. I don't know what to believe. I know this behaviour is out of character for him. He and his wife also contacted my lawyer with a written apology already. All those present had to give statements and one red thread emerged. They were there because the aunt and uncle who called me first (the ones from this post) had said they all should and see if they could convince me. As for charges concerning the others who were present. My lawyer is looking if they can get charges to stick for harrassment. He is also looking if The Instigators can be charged with a number of things. That guy is having a field day, he loves this. Those who were not involved have sent texts, called and sent me emails telling me that they're sorry for the behaviour of their spouse/sibling/parent. They have not asked me to drop charges or anything though. Just apologies. [**Update: You paid for them? You pay for us!**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/i89zgg/update_you_paid_for_them_you_pay_for_us/) submitted August 2020 A short update on my previous post. I also want to cover some of the comments without repeating myself. I find it hard to answer to all. I still wanted to thank you all for your comments and opinions. I will try to cover everything. Thank you for the awards! I know that some people might think it's fake. That's OK. I still wish it was. What I want to start with is that this behaviour is out of character. This is my Hubby's family and they have always been hardworking themselves, saved money and family orientated. They did/do not all have jobs that earn(ed) a lot. Them not loaning money when we needed it, is because they don't like loaning money. They were afraid not getting it back as they also needed it. However, the comment they made then hurt. We talked about it at the time. They understood it then and apologised. Also, Hubby and I have a strong feeling that Blabbermouth SIL has said some things to them for them to go nuts. At the moment this is just a hunch, we'll see what time will tell us. So for them to pounce on me like this is not normal behaviour for them. It doesn't change a thing though. Since the incident I have talked to cousins, aunts and uncles. On advice of my lawyer(L) I sent an email that I do not want to be contacted by them at this point as the 'Visitors' might face a lawsuit as does Little Love tap Uncle (LLTU). I gave them the contact information of L if they so wish or need. I asked them to respect this. I also adviced the Visitors and LLTU to find legal advice due to the circumstances. As of now, they respect this as we have not received calls, texts and emails. Only one cousin is in contact with Hubby. This is the cousin who has the certified loan and thus we need to be in contact with each other. He told Hubby that the Visitors and LLTU are very ashamed of themselves and realise they fluffed up enormously. He has heard some talk about mediation. LLTU even cried in front of him. A man who never cries. It seems genuine, but I'm cautious. I've read the responses and don't feel guilty anymore. I'm a person who helps when needed, always have. Even when we didn't have a lot of money people were always welcome to stay for dinner and a night or two to get back on her feet. I have always felt lucky and blessed that I had a roof over my head, 3 meals a day and clothes on my back. Hubby and I discussed that we won't be offering any kind of funds for the other family members, their children or grandchildren. However, we are open for certified loans like cousin has but have decided that we won't be sharing this view for now. I'm not going to punish people for the actions of their parents/grandparents. Some people said that I should move and change my number. No, I won't do that. I'm not going to move because of what happened. We live in a safe neighbourhood with neighbours who take care of each other. Also, as of now, this is an isolated incident. I did block them on my phone and social media. My number is known to many official authorities. And again, as this is an isolated incident for the time being I won't. Hubby chose not to block them and any contact of them has been through him, in case they want to message him and they say things that could be used in court. He wants to keep tabs on them for as far as that is possible. I'm OK with this. All the correspondence has been saved. L and I have a Zoom call planned for the next week. I have let him know what cousin said. He also hopes to have heard something from the DA then. He said that mediation is an option and wouldn't be surprised if the DA would look into this if the Visitors and LLTU are open for this idea. There might still be legal consequences for them. He has some ideas but it also depends on the DA and what the Visitors and LLTU plead. L told me that he had some time to read some of the statements and view parts of the footage. Up until now their stories are consistent with the footage he's seen. At this point I want that their actions are recorded somewhere and have consequences for them. You do not get to threaten me, possibly my family, and harm me without getting your behind kicked at least once. Let them be scared crapless at this point. The footage is in the hands of the DA and my lawyer. Also, a neighbour has also recorded what happened and that is also in the hands of the DA and my lawyer. Neighbour also gave a statement. I also have the footage saved in other places. You never know. Neighbours know what happened. I sent them flowers with an apology for the disturbance. They appreciated the gesture. Neighbours are not afraid thankfully and have promised to keep an eye on things. (Angel neighbours really) I don't consider myself a hero. I just try to be a decent human being. I don't flaunt the fact we have money. We live in a normal home in a normal street. We don't wear expensive clothes. The car I bought 10 years ago was brand new then and the baby is still going strong. It has some dents and scratches on it, but the baby works. I'm not going to buy a new car if this one is still working. Same goes for Hubby's car. Kids have their own chores and get pocket money, but if they want something extra they can do extra chores for some extra spending money. They also have to save part of their pocket money. We want to teach them the value of money. The eldest realises that we have a filled bankaccount, but has also seen what it has cost. Kiddo's want a Switch at the moment, so their saving money for that now. We will pay for a certain amount and the rest they have to get for themselves. So we just try to be an average family. I hope I covered all the comments and questions. Thanks again for reading. [**And more family came out of the woodwork.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/k9ed9b/and_more_family_came_out_of_the_woodwork/) submitted December 2020 I thought to give a little info about the current going ons here. The cast: LLTU = Little love tap uncle, the one who slapped me. The Visitors = aunts, uncles and cousins who came to try and 'persuade' me to give them money. L= our lovely lawyer. Blabbermouth= SIL who couldn't keep her mouth shut and blabbed all kinds of things to the family. CLC= Certified loan cousin, cousin who asked and got a certified loan. He has since paid it back. First. I am dealing with some health issues. Not COVID related thankfully, but I will need some surgery. There will be a law suit against LLTU and the Visitors. When? Date is set for January at this point. Let's hope it doesn't get postponed. Hubby and I have written a letter that our L could read in court in the case we won't be able to be there, either in person or on a videocall. Blabbermouth's role is becoming clearer but since we don't have the full picture yet, I will update later. LLTU had a minor fracture of his cheek bone apparently. Nothing major and he didn't need any surgery. Hubby, L. And I have had some good and honest conversations about my own behaviour. L. is a friend I know from way back and he says that although I am quite the gentle soul, I can also be a strict, direct and have a no nonsense attitude. I have always been family oriented and wanting to help others. Unfortunately this has proved to be my downfall. L and Hubby agree that I can be more no-nonsense and stricter when it comes to family as well. I recognize this. I tend to sweep things under the rug because 'family'. Stupid, stupid me. Since then, I get great feedback from the both of them and have sought out a therapist who says I have made improvements. Since the Visit, Hubby and I have been contacted by many family members from his side. Mostly to ask questions about as they just heard one side of the story and things were unclear to them. Some of them were understanding about the situation. They were honest that they felt left out but as one cousin said it 'To be honest, I would not have thought of you either if something like this would've happened to me.' They repeated they would appreciate any gesture but that it was not their money to decide. Unfortunately there were some family members who came to the defence of the Visitors and 'What was the big deal? I had plenty of money. Just share as you won't miss it.' (here we go again). They have been sending us messages on a daily basis (hello harassment charges!) telling us that we were selfish people and that family should share when good luck came their way. Then one day we received a request for a Zoom call from a cousin who had not spoken to us at all. We accepted.... only to find out that it was the virtual ambush of the Visit. Some family members had gathered online from their separate homes to 'talk to us'. They got to minutes before I made it clear I wanted to say something. *Me*: I want to say something. *People*: OK *Me*: So you want us to share the money. *People*: Yes. (lot of behind-kissing comments like 'Really?! You're the best) *Me*: First I want $2000 from each of you. *People*: cry in outrage. Loads and loads of comments and then one of them said the magical words: 'Why would I give you that amount of money? Me and my partner work hard for that money and now you just demand that amount? You can't do that! We all work hard for that money!' *Me*: So do we. What makes you think then that you can make the same demands of us AND expect us to give in to them?' I will be honest that I loved the embarrassed silence that followed. CLC was part of it and said that when he heard about it, he called for a certified loan for the downpayment on his home. He then went on about the terms of the loan and that according to the lawyer he had asked to review it was a good document. Strict yes, but it protected both sides. Hubby and I did tell them that CLC was given the loan because he asked for it NICELY and agreed to a certified loan. One of them asked if we would do that again. We told them point blank that if they would want to borrow money we wouldn't be sure to agree to it because of a couple of things. 1. They behaved like entitled people and treated us like crap. 2. You don't get to treat people like this and then go kissing their behind the moment you want something. 5. They all have jobs. Save for it if it is something that is considered a luxury. 4. The circumstances might change so maybe we would not even be able to help. 6. IF and that's a big IF we decide to help out, we want the most minuscule details about what the money is needed for and they have to agree to a certified loan. Most people back out as they don't want strings attached (or a claim made on their car, house etc). It was very very silent for a while. I told them that I had a good idea they wanted money because they wanted a more luxurious car or remodel the kitchen/bathroom/whatever in the house while it was still working and no hazard or in need of replacing. Maybe they wanted to buy that fancy item they coveted for a while or a game console for their kids. Save up for it. More silence and embarrassed shifting on their part. Hubby told them to stop harassing us. We were being blamed by tearing the family apart but their own greed was doing that. Up until now there were no problems and we all went along just fine. Now money comes in the picture and almost everyone changes in to money hungry morons. (yep, his words). He became very emotional as he said that this wasn't the family he grew up with and that he hated it to see them changed so much. Then the apologies came from some of them. We then left the Zoom meeting telling them that we only wanted to hear from them if they came with an apology first and not to contact us as we needed space. Some have texted us those apologies and Hubby had some phone conversations with them. Others have not changed their status from money hungry moron and keep texting us all kind of wailing stories about how much they need/deserve money. One cousin even texted me saying that I deserved that slap in my face. I was not blood and should therefore just bow down to the 'will of the family'. He even told Hubby to 'get his wife back under control and be a good family member'. He keeps harrassing us and made some comments that hint on me being hit again. I simply said if he had talked to LLTU and how his broken cheekbone felt. Those comments stopped and CLC told me that he suspects that Cousin didn't want to meet my right fist as Cousin talked to him about it and had been hinting something along those lines. Every text is saved and go into a big big USB flash drive for L to get started on some nice Cease and Desist letters as some may know them. LLTU and the Visitors have stopped contact when asked and advised to. So that was the update up to this point. On a more positive note. CLC and his GF had bought their house and when it was done we were invited to visit it (mask wearing and keeping distance). They turned a house into a home. It was good to see the pride and joy coming from them.
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"2022-12-15T23:27:19"
The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws, part 2
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Go grab some snacks and a blanket, this is suuuuuper long. I compiled it in a Microsoft Word document and it’s 43 pages 😳😳 These posts were made by Burneraccount-909876, almost entirely in r/EntitledPeople. It was [previously posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/paev3n/buckle_up_this_is_a_long_and_wild_ride_op/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on BORU by simply posting all the links of the posts that had been put up at that time. The update will be separated by 🆕🆕🆕🆕🆕 about halfway through “PART 3”. I made some minor formatting edits, but everything else I pasted exactly as-is. [PART 1]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzs61/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_1/), [PART 2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmztmz/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_2/), [PART 3]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzvwr/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_3/), [PART 4]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzxd6/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_4/), [PART 5]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzyx3/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_5/) ——— [**The aftermath concerning 'The Visit' Part 1: explanation**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/mw1yx3/the_aftermath_concerning_the_visit_part_1/) submitted April 2021 A lot has happened in the past couple of months. Due to the fact that it was an enormous amount of text I cut the update in more parts. A short summary of the people involved: Visitors: aunts, uncles and cousins who ambushed me at my home demanding money. LLTU: Little love tap uncle. Uncle who gave me a slap in the face. L= Lawyer friend First I want to say that I have read all the comments. Thank you for taking the time to read my post and comment on it. Also, I had my surgery and I’m recovering, slowly but steadily. Hubby and the kids help me a lot. Bless them. I also read some speculation about the college funds. First of all, where I live college isn't insanely expensive like in the USA.These funds should suffice for community college type education or trade school, making it less expensive than private or top universities. Another point is that the funds only covers a good part of tuition and books. No rent, extra curricular activities or living expenses. So it doesn't cost millions like some people speculated. The mortgages were not entirely paid off, but I gave SIL/BIL and my brother an amount which helped them a lot. They have paid off the rest themselves. My investments (they were done before hubby was in the picture) were in some companies and technologies that have since grown. Not all investments have paid off but some did. We count ourselves very lucky. Part of it goes to our retirement funds and to charities at home and abroad. I’ve asked for investment advice from a professional when I decided to do that. I was about 23 when I did. I also followed some courses on how to invest. Also, I noticed that someone on the TubeYou used my stories and I’ve read the responses. Some people asked why I would help a SIL who behaves the way she did. Well, we love her kids and it was more for them then for SIL and BIL. Another reason was that we wanted to keep things fair, if that’s possible. I now know that this might not have been the smartest move. The last reason was is that we had seen decent behaviour for some time, so we figured that manners had been learned. Now back to the situation with a bit of backstory. Last time we left of is that a couple of aunts, uncles and cousins came by for a visit to demand and scream for money. One of the uncles earned the title of Little love tap Uncle (LLTU) for the little love tap he gave me. One of the cousins who had a loan has paid everything back. I asked the family not to contact me but to contact my lawyer (L) instead. They have mostly respected that. They did ask for a Zoom call in which they could explain everything. L, Hubby and I agreed to do so after the court cases would be over with. Also, the $800,000 was a total for all the grandchildren of the remaining family members. I finally got that one clear. Some people doubted that and thus I went over the recording again. Sorry for the misinformation. We later found out that they had just come up with a number and would just see how it would end. LLTU’s broken cheekbone was not broken, just severely bruised. The grapevine is not always reliable.Also, we had some harassment from family members after the virtual ‘Visit’. On to the update. I don’t know all the details of the court cases as I couldn’t be present (not COVID but other health related issue), let me say that first. Also, due to COVID most of the conversations were through online meetings. LLTU was charged for trespassing, assault and threatening to cause bodily harm and he pled guilty. His lawyer said that he has been following anger management courses on his own and reports from the therapist and another (court ordered) psychologist confirm what we thought. That this is not like him and he regrets everything he’s done. Judge gave LLTU a very hard time from what L told me. Judge did not take kindly that a man would hit a woman. LLTU was asked some tough questions by the judge, the main was as to why he did it. Well now it gets juicy. It seems that Blabbermouth threw plane loads of kerosene on a fire that before her calls and texts didn’t even exist. You see, the family didn't know that we had money as we had asked those who did to keep their mouths shut. That was respected...until now. Blabbermouth called LLTU and the rest of the family telling them about the money and how we refused to ‘share’ it with family. Then came the lies. Blabbermouth turned on the waterworks, telling them and other family members that I made fun of their financial situation, flaunted my wealth and was overall mean, disrespectful and spiteful. She played the victim to them all, accusing me of horrible things. She then continued to say that I made fun of the rest of the family, for their choices of life, jobs, ambitions and so much more. To keep a long story shorter, she pushed all the buttons and pushed them deep. The reason the rest of the Visitors went crazy was again thanks to Blabbermouth, who really knows how to push people’s buttons. That woman deserves an Oscar for her performance. LLTU (and Visitors) apologized, for whatever that’s worth. Judge asked if L had some input from our side. L read a letter we wrote. L told Judge that we were deeply hurt by what had happened. That no ill will, harm or disrespect was ever meant towards any of them. We chose to do with the money as we saw fit and would always have been willing to help. But having money does not mean that it should handed out like it is dust in the wind. L also told the judge that we are very angry for their entitlement and behaviour, them showing up and of course the slap in my face. I (used to) respect them a lot but I will not accept this behaviour from anyone and asked the judge to have justice served. If that meant a sentence and record, then so be it. Why would I feel any compassion for people who felt the need to attack me? LLTU was sentenced with 18 months of community services and a fine, plus court costs. He also has to continue the anger management courses for at least another year. An evaluation will determine whether or not something needs to be done after that. This will go on some sort of record from what I've told. I have accepted this. The Visitors were also charged for harassment and threatening a person.They pled guilty and had to pay a hefty fine along with 6 months of community service. This is something I also have accepted. Before I forget, they had already received and paid fines for breaking social distancing laws. Some other family members have received the equivalent of a cease and desist letter from L after the virtual ‘Visit’, since some kept harassing us. It has been quiet ever since. This was part 1. I will give an update soon about what happened after the court cases. [**The aftermath concerning 'The Visit' Part 2**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/myr5g2/the_aftermath_concerning_the_visit_part_2/) submitted April 2021 Burneraccount. After the court cases we arranged a Zoom call with the aunts, uncles and cousins involved in which the whole story became clear and not only what LLTU told in court. Thus the part that Blabbermouth played became entirely clear. L and their lawyer were present. They apologised and explained they felt really hurt and angry and that Blabbermouth insisted that they went ‘for their rightful share’ as ‘they deserved it because of the hurtful things that I said, they were family and deserved it’. ‘That family shares.’ Blabbermouth told them she did it and that it worked. They also repeated the insults and horrible actions that I committed according to Blabbermouth. They felt hyped up by her. That and greed got the best of them. They understand that this money is for us to do as we please. Our relationship is not the same and won’t ever be. They seemed to understand that we're not able nor willing to forget this attack on me, my character and to an extent my hubby as well. To be sure, I have a no–contact order against them for at least a year. It also dawned on them that one breach of the order will ensure they get to meet law enforcement once again, as I don’t back down. They also realise that if we were ever willing to help out financially in forms of loans, they annihilated that chance. We have been brutally honest with each other. I was pissed. I told them that they are adults who should have known better than to jump to conclusions. I was calm and collected when family members contacted me, now I wasn't. I let everything go. I told them to at least have the decency and soundness of mind ask the other party/parties involved for their side of the story and to listen to that side with an open mind. I tore them all a new one. I was brutal according to hubby and L. I treated the family to 20 minutes of brutal honesty. Even Hubby and L said they were impressed to the point of scared. After a lot of talking, the call ended. The relationship might not ever heal, but at least we discussed everything. I have my peace with that. If they could do this, then I don't want them as family. L thought that I had learned my own lesson about not letting family off the hook easily just because they were family. However, some family members who were not involved in 'The Visit' contacted me after the ‘Virtual Visit’. They wanted to know how it was possible to earn/get so much money. I shared some info about investing and gave them a number for advice if they wanted. With the number came the warning that investing has its risks. I earned a lot of money but I also lost plenty of it. They should not be investing if it will put them in debt. They thanked me for the warning. In regards to college funds or whatever for them. We won't be doing that. Simply because we won't want anyone to think that such things can be achieved by this behaviour. I didn't really have a relationship with them, but still. You don't treat family or any other person like this. Hubby is still shaken that the mostly generous family he knew did what they did and treated him and me the way they did. I hope he will be all right in the long run. So that is the part of the LLTU and the Visitors. I wonder what the future will bring. [**Apologies- Hacked**](https://www.reveddit.com/v/EntitledPeople/comments/n0wn79/apologies_hacked/) submitted April 2021 This account of mine was hacked. I received an email someone changed my password. Since I had a health scare I couldn't change it fast enough. For the AH that did that. Really? Do something useful with your time instead of hacking accounts and posting d*ckpics. [**The aftermath concerning Blabbermouth Part 1**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/nz4tyk/the_aftermath_concerning_blabbermouth_part_1/) submitted June 2021 First of all, my apologies it took so long. I was hacked and it took the mods some time to restore my account. Last post is what happened to LLTU, Visitors and the aftermath concerning them. This is about Blabbermouth, my oh so lovely (not) SIL who instigated the whole mess. Well, 2 of her kids moved out after a very bad fight with her. The eldest (26F) and her BF already had a home waiting and just moved in. The renovations are not finished but she said she didn’t care. They sleep on air mattresses in one of the bedrooms and the rest of the house is a mess as they still needed to renovate a lot. Second kid (24M) is staying with his GF at her parents house where he helps with bills. Both have gone NC with their parents after founding out what happened due to their mother. Two of the kids (21, 19) are pissed off as heck but could not move out but aren’t speaking to her and sleep at their friends’ places a lot. The 17-year old sides with his mother, though. But he's the baby and Blabbermouth has always spoiled him. I've read comments about how people suggested we could cut Blabbermouth's children off. No, I'm not going to do that. The 17-year old 'did a Blabbermouth' in regards of demanding money. I frankly said that if he wanted an education largely paid for by Hubby and I, he will stop with what he is doing and meet the requirements that come with the money for college. Otherwise, bye bye money. I told him that if he starts acting and behaving like his mother, then bye bye money. ETA: Yes, the money comes with requirements, very strict requirements. Don't meet the requirements, the moneyflow stops. I'm not entirely stupid. So far, he has stopped. His siblings tell me he is quite hilarious when he throws his temper tantrums about this. BIL and Blabbermouth also seem not amused by my standpoint in this situation. Like I care. The rest of the family also let her know what they thought. They called her, gave her a piece of their minds and went full blown NC. Blabbermouth and BIL are now pariahs in the family. Some cousins would help them with a paint job, not happening. Another uncle who checks their car every year for a reduced fee, told them to find another garage for help. Another cousin would renovate their roof. He gave the money back they had paid and told them to find someone else. MIL is heartbroken. That hurts. I don’t think she ever thought her own child could and would do this and break up the family. She still has contact with the grandkids but her and Blabbermouth’s relationship is strained. Same goes for FIL. Every Saturday we would have coffee with immediate family (MIL, FIL, Blabbermouth & BIL and the kids if they had time, us, and other SIL). We still see them but we don't go there if we know Blabbermouth will be coming too or is there already. That has meant that the times we were there and saw her coming, we immediately packed our things and left. Blabbermouth had been badgering Hubby, me and the kids, alternating about how sorry she is and that she didn’t mean for this to happen and acting like she did nothing wrong. One time she called Hubby who put the phone on speaker once as I was curious as heck and wanted to hear how she dug herself deeper into a pile of crap. She didn’t disappoint. I had to laugh hysterically when she spewed her crap through the phone. Told her that if she didn’t want to happen, then why did she do it? Why did she tell all those lies? She just wanted money and employed the family as her minions to do her bidding. Because if I paid for them, I could pay for her right? She was silent. L is looking if any legal action can be taken against Blabbermouth. He has been given the texts from the family and from us. At this point slander, instigation for harassment and violence, and harassment itself are the ones he’s collecting evidence for. He digs deep, he wants everything so he can throw it at her. He has even contacted the family to see if they were willing to hand over the texts voluntarily. Most did. Blabbermouth has been blocked from both our phones, email and social media after the last phone call. After she found out she had been blocked, she came to our home to try and sweet talk her way out of it. BIL also came. They even came together on times they knew that Hubby would be out and try to intimidate/sweet talk me. My answer was to call the police. Next Blabbermouth tried to slander us to people in hometown. Unfortunately for her that backfired and she gets the skink eye from a lot of people in town. Then she did something that scared us a bit. One day a week my MIL picks up the youngest kids from school. They go with her, have a snack, are later joined by the eldest who goes to secondary school, they do their homework there and then they either eat there, we all eat there or we take them home for dinner. MIL is always early but due to a doctor's appointment she and FIL ran late. Blabbermouth was waiting at the school of our youngest kids. Why? We don't know. The kids thankfully saw her and stayed inside the school. Eldest son had finished school early and had decided to go to his siblings' school to go with them and MIL. He saw his aunt and walked inside the school to wait for MIL with his siblings. Blabbermouth left shortly after. School was brought up to date on the situation and promised to call the police immediately if she was spotted again. In the meantime, we are waiting for an approval for a NC order against her and BIL. We have also moved to a different place. Initially we didn't want to. But due to what happened we thought it might be best to do so. Other people heard what happened and were very friendly all of a sudden... In the town where my brother lives, there is a nice place. The house is similar to ours. Our kids also know kids their age so a school isn't a problem in that regard, They start there in September. Eldest can still go to his school as there is a good bus connection with a short bus ride. A good thing is that my brother lives on a 2-minute walk from our house and the neighbours are also very nice and welcoming. My parents have moved to a smaller home close by. And no, we didn't pay for it, my parents were adamant we wouldn't. The only thing we paid for was for the rent of a moving truck (and a good insurance for us as mommy dearest was frothing at the mouth because we paid for it. She doesn't want that.) When Hubby and I are working they come around sometimes to keep an eye on the house. We don't mind. They have never done anything to cause mistrust. We are looking into how we can protect ourselves further. Hubby, L and I are looking at all the legal things concerning this. Our house also has some security measures, like cameras with audio and video. They record and images are stored. At this point things are calming down. We are still close with hubby's other sister, my brother and other family members who were no part of the mess. So this was the update part one on Blabbermouth. I'll post the second part later. [**The aftermath concerning Blabbermouth Part 2**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/o6wgec/the_aftermath_concerning_blabbermouth_part_2/) submitted June 2021 Burneraccount. This is part 2 concerning Blabbermouth. We had a lot of conversations with FIL about Blabbermouth's antics. He thinks that her behaviour stems from jealousy. Hubby and I had some years of financial hardship before it got better. Even before we came into money, we lived a relatively comfortable life after we managed to get more financial stability. Blabbermouth, BIL and their family weren't dirt poor but they didn’t have as many holidays, weekends away or day trips as we did. It became less when our children were born but we still went away from time to time. (Hubby has a knack for finding deals for such things, eldest has been learning) FIL thinks that part of the jealousy started there and became worse after. I asked if she might think that we wanted to flaunt our new wealth to her. FIL thought it might. Hubby and I think her behaviour is twofold. We think that jealousy is indeed a part of it, but also entitlement. She always thinks that she and/or her own family should be part of/ in the spotlight and get something out of it, even if it is not about or for them. She seems to think that she deserves all kinds of things. According to Hubby this started in childhood and has continued into adulthood. I also asked my FIL why she disrespects me/my job. FIL stated that that may be jealousy as well. I managed to go through college and get my Bachelor and Master's degree. I've always worked, although less when our children were born. She didn't follow any higher form of education. She's got her education as a childcare provider for daycare centres and that's it. She stopped working for a number of years and has cleaned homes for a couple of years to earn a bit extra cash. FIL thinks that my 'educational rap sheet', as he jokingly called it, impressed her and made her jealous. I earned a great deal more before my investments started to generate money. I wonder if I did right by helping them out. My intentions were good. I know the importance of education and I knew that the kids would have difficulties following any form of college education without amassing a huge amount of debt, either for themselves or their parents. My parents worked hard to provide for my brother and I so that we wouldn’t need to start our adult lives with debt. Our nieces and nephews are very grateful for everything we did and do for them. They know about all the effort that went in it. At this point we are also no contact with BIL and Blabbermouth. They don't know our current address and we have a PO box in a different town. I also changed my phone number although I kept the other one for business purposes and to gather evidence. We have been awarded with a temporary No Contact order from the court. Blabbermouth and BIL are not allowed contact in any way, not even through a third party. We are trying to get one for at least a year, maybe 2 if that's possible. She is also facing charges of defamation, instigating violence and harrassment. L is digging deep and throwing anything he legally can at her. The one thing I'm grateful of is that our friends never changed. They knew and they didn't care. They said that they knew that we had money and that it didn't matter to them. That what mattered is that we were there for and with them in the good and the bad times. MIL and FIL do know where we live but they don't have the address on paper. Hubby drove them over one time. Hubby made it very clear to MIL that under no circumstance is she going to show or tell anyone else where we live. People want to see us? She can pass on the message and phone number to us and we'll call them. Reason for this? Well, MIL has a soft spot for Blabbermouth. MIL has been asking if any reconciliation was possible. We said 'At this point, no. Blabbermouth is not even remotely sorry for what she has done. She is trying to deny everything that happened and even tries to blame us. She has destroyed our relationships with family members on her own. So no.' MIL tried to get us to forgive Blabbermouth as she didn't mean it, didn't want it to happen and such. Truth be told, I lost my cool at that point. I love MIL to death, really I do. She is such a sweet lady and has done so, so much for us. Especially concerning our children. But I told her the same thing as I told Blabbermouth. That she should be happy with the things that were given to her and her children. But NOOOOOO, she had to get greedy. I got slapped for crying out loud, I got threats agains my life, Hubby's life and the lives of my children. Even if it was said in the heat of the moment, like what the actual heck? Eventually I got up and left. Hubby and FIL talked to her and made it clear that it's not up to us to do anything to repair anything. That ball is in Blabbermouth's court. I did apologize to MIL for losing my cool but not for the message. That remained the same. This situation has shaken me to my core. I have done things that go against my nature. Even without money and even debt, people were always welcome to eat at our table and stay over. Now I keep wondering if people tell me their sob stories because they want money from me and not care about me as a person. Just an ATM, nothing more. Do I regret helping out? Yes and no. The 4 eldest children of Blabbermouth are doing great. Same goes for other SIL, my parents and my brother and his family. CLC is doing great. He and his GF have some plans for their home and are saving up to it. He asked for investment advice. I gave him websites for courses and the phone number of the person who helped me all those years ago. We also made a savings plan and I helped them budget (I do that as a volunteer for an organisation that helps people in debt). My regret is helping out Blabbermouth herself, letting her share in the good fortune. But I can't help but wonder. What would she have done if we wouldn't have helped her? Probably just the same. She'll rear her ugly head in my life from time to time, of that I’m sure. If that’s the case, my dear friend L will get the opportunity to sharpen his lawyer knives and have fun. As of now we are waiting for Blabbermouth's court case. [**Are you kidding me??!!**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/oc9xqr/are_you_kidding_me/) submitted July 2021 I don't believe it. This is a joke. It has to be a joke. L = Lawyer friend. First Joke. I think someone has found out where we live. We woke up last Sunday to find the tyres of the cars slashed. All.Of. Them. Not only that, it has some wonderful artwork on both sides of the car. (a.k.a. it was scratched) So what did lil' old me and Hubby do? If you guessed 'check the security footage' pat yourself on the back, you got it right. Our cars have dashcams that record 24/7 and are parked several streets over. Security measure number I-lost-track-of-them-all. We take them out, place another set and look at the footage while saving recordings.You can guess again who you think it was. Did you guess Blabbermouth? Them I'm sorry to disappoint you.It was one of Hubby's cousins, the one who thought that I should just hand over the money, 'Bow down to the will of the family' and that Hubby 'should get his woman in line'. Remember him? I certainly do. Police were called and we handed over security footage alongside pictures of said cousin's social media, address, phone number and email. Better be thorough right? Afterwards Hubby called his mother to see if she, either by accident or not, spilled the beans. For now she didn't. She and FIL are thinking hard if they might have missed something. I called my family and they are also thinking hard if they said something to someone. And second joke. Blabbermouth and BIL have filed a lawsuit against me and to an extent Hubby! Guess for what? If you guessed 'defamation' then dance your own wonderful dance. Since Blabbermouth is a social pariah in the family and in hometown she blames me for all her woes in this. People in hometown talked and a lot of people look at her with a upturned nose. They don't like that at all. Life has become somewhat uneasy for them (Hmmm, I wonder why?) She's claiming that I'm the one who apparently blabbed outrageous lies to people in the town's gossip machine and caused her drama. Fun part is.... it was her own mother. Because she was so upset with what was happening she talked and told a lot to a lot of people. L is still rolling over the ground laughing. They demand compensation for their 'ruined reputation'. They are willing to settle to 'keep it out of court'. He has already started on the answer. When I saw the letter I was angry and humored at the same time. Really Blabbermouth? That's your game plan now? Very well. Game's on. So who else's jaw has dropped to the depths of the sea?
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"2022-12-15T23:29:40"
The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws, part 3
NEW UPDATE
Go grab some snacks and a blanket, this is suuuuuper long. I compiled it in a Microsoft Word document and it’s 43 pages 😳😳 These posts were made by Burneraccount-909876, almost entirely in r/EntitledPeople. It was [previously posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/paev3n/buckle_up_this_is_a_long_and_wild_ride_op/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on BORU by simply posting all the links of the posts that had been put up at that time. The update will be separated by 🆕🆕🆕🆕🆕 about halfway through “PART 3”. I made some minor formatting edits, but everything else I pasted exactly as-is. [PART 1]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzs61/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_1/), [PART 2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmztmz/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_2/), [PART 3]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzvwr/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_3/), [PART 4]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzxd6/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_4/), [PART 5]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzyx3/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_5/) ——— [**Update on cousin and lawsuit**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/oshnnu/update_on_cousin_and_lawsuit/) submitted July 2021 I have a small update on the cousin who decided to use our car to vent his frustrations as well as on the lawsuit Blabbermouth hit us with. Cousin has probably lost his job or has a lot of trouble there. Apparently his boss got wind of the fact that he vandalised our cars and was caught on camera. Don't know how he found out and frankly, don't care. Boss is not happy, at all. From the family members that don't have a NC order against us we hear the 2 different tales. What I know for certain is that at cousin's job the stunt he pulled got him into serious trouble. We also have a temporary NC order against him. Damages are set to be fixed in 2 weeks time. Cousin has been told the amount of damages he has caused. He can pay for it out of his own pocket as of course insurance companies don't pay for idiots destroying other people's cars. He will also see the inside of a courtroom in either August or September. We also found out how he found our cars. His friend lives in the same neighbourhood as we. We didn't know this. Cousin seemed to have told his friend his version of events and his buddy told us he saw us in the neighbourhood. Wonder what friend thinks now, after what cousin did. As for the lawsuit. Let's get the people clear: L = Lawyer friend BL = Blabbermouth's lawyer My dear lawyer friend has had his batch of cookies and he loved them. He also replied to BL sending some of what he had on texts, voice mails and emails with the note that if Blabbermouth didn't drop the lawsuit we would counter file and demand compensation of whatever kind. There are people who thought that Blabbermouth lied to her lawyer. She (of course) did. She told a bunch of lies and decided to fabricate "evidence" to "prove" it. L saw it. BL didn't like it and dropped them as clients. I can't help but wanting to be a fly on the wall when BL told Blabbermouth that. Let's see what she'll do next. I'm halfway wondering if I should get a popcorn and a soda for this. [**How entitled cousin met Froufrou**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/p3qpb1/how_entitled_cousin_met_froufrou/) submitted August 2021 Hey people, I have another update on Entitled Cousin or EC for short. He's the douchecanoe that said I should bend to the will of the family. I'm out of ideas for a nickname. L (our lawyer friend) is also mentioned. We're still waiting for the court meeting but some charges are being added next to vandalism and destruction of personal property. No he didn't scratch our cars or slashed our tyres this time. Smart man. Chipotle is Instead he got to meet Froufrou, our neighbours' dog and our neighbour (N). As it is summer Hubby and I decided to go on a holiday in our own country again. Due to COVID we didn't feel going abroad to our holiday home. We are vaccinated although our children are not. We had a blast. Kids could go to the pool a couple of times (had to make reservations) and made friends with the other kids. Halfway through our holiday we got a call. Little big brother (younger but taller than me) of mine called to tell that EC had been arrested....again. This time the douchecanoe actually found our home. And you lovely people can try and guess what he did. Did he throw rocks through the windows? Nope. Did he spray graffiti on the house? Again nope. No, mister smartipants tried breaking in. Our home has a big wooden fence around our back yard, but the position of the wooden planks make it impossible or at least very difficult to climb them. EC had come in the dead of the night/ early morning hours and used a ladder to climb the fence. So he's in our back yard now, tools in hand. He starts getting busy trying to open our back door. (good luck with that) Our neighbour walks Froufrou quite early in the morning. So N takes Froufrou out for his first walk to pee/poop for the day quite early. Our neighbourhood loves the guy and his loyal friend. More than once has he found people at homes who should not be there. N and Froufrou walk and find themselves looking at a ladder standing against the fence of my house. N knows the situation and that we are not at home. N hears some noise at our back door and realises what is happening. So what does he do? He lets Froufrou climb the ladder and jump into our yard. Froufrou sees EC and starts growling. Who is Froufrou? Froufrou is the sweet, caring, funny, big and protective as heck Cane Corso of N. How did he get the name Froufrou? Well, N's wife loves 'Beauty and the beast' and the little dog turned seat has the name Froufrou. So EC sees Froufrou, who is not amused at seeing a stranger in 'his' yard. EC is apparently not so smart and throws a couple of tools in Froufrou's direction. Froufrou is having none of it, barks and charges. EC barely manages to climb on a table before Froufrou gets to him. Froufrou is a trained dog so he doesn't bite until ordered to. Meanwhile N is standing on the ladder pissing his pants at the girly screams of EC while calling the guys and gals in blue. EC is taken away in the back of a police car and has to stay in jail until his hearing. L demanded that he not be released until his hearing. The NC order is apparently not sufficient to keep him away. We managed to send the security footage to the legal people involved. Froufrou got some nice doggy snacks and N and his wife were also thanked. I have to admit one thing though. When we got back the kids went to spend the night at their friends for some slumberparty time. Hubby and I went to watch the footage. It was gold. And yes, we grabbed ourselves some drinks and a popcorn to watch it...again and again. [**And now my own extended family knows as well**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/pa1fhk/and_now_my_own_extended_family_knows_as_well/) submitted August 2021 Burneraccount. Title basically says it. My own extended family found out that I have money as well. I don't have a lot of aunts and uncles left, plenty of cousins though as dad had 6 sisters who all had children. Only 4 cousins are younger than I am. I haven't spoken to them in like 20 years and the only times I have spoken with them was at a funeral of one of the aunts and uncles. I have no relationship with them. I received several messages of cousins who heard through a lot of people that I had money. When I read this, I was mentally preparing for yet another shit storm. Yep, they was pissed. They wanted to know why I didn't tell anyone? One of them ranted and raved about how unfair everything was and I could have let them know and yada yada yada. When she finally was done I asked (perhaps rather rudely) if she was done and if I could explain. I made one group and I wrote the whole story of what was happening in that group. I ended with the words, in bold, underlined and huge letters 'THIS IS WHY I NEVER TOLD YOU!!!!' Several were shocked that what happened did happen. I asked them why they were upset I didn't tell them. No one really answered that until I said that maybe because they wanted to benefit from it. Some 'No way!' and 'How can you think that of us?' I answered that the reason I think is because of all the crap that has hit my fan. I have lost a lot of trust in people in general because of this. To make a long story short. A couple of them asked if they could get (yes get, not borrow) some money. Others said they would like to borrow some if possible I uploaded a document that CLC (certified loan Cousin) and I had signed. I told them that what was stated in the document were the rules. They could read it or not. One cousin asked if I could give him a call. I did. Turns out his daughter has a severe illness, without treatment she'll likely die. I won't name it for anonimity's sake. There is a treatment in the US that could help her, chances remain slim but if it is a success his daughter might live and live a somewhat good quality of life. Unfortunately that treatment is not paid for by the insurance company. I didn't trust it after so many stories and ask for details. He asked if I could come and visit. His daughter was in the hospital. He didn't lie one bit. God, that girl. She's in her early 20's, but still. Tubes and monitors everywhere. Books on bed as she tried to do some homework. I could almost see Death standing at her shoulder, waiting. She was so... We had a talk and eventually her attending doctor came in and explained a bit. Later I went with the doctor to his office and he explained the rest. I went home afterwards. We verified the doctor's name, field etc. Cousin and I talked again on the phone. I told him I hadn't made a decision yet and wanted to know if they wanted the money for medical costs only. He confirmed that. His wife/mother of said daughter would go to the US and they had money to cover her expenses. It would be tight but they wanted only the money for the medical costs. Hubby and I talked and we agreed. We agreed to help but again with strict rules. We would only pay the amount that we were given. (the US hospital gave them a number). We would pay the hospital directly and other important details. Only thing we asked in return is that in the event of succes and failure they would put a certain amount of money towards research, in installments if necessary. L (lawyer friend) drew up the contract and asked another lawyer to review it. This lawyer is specialised in the medical field. I called cousin again. I told him that I had thoroughly examined the entire situation. I had been played and lied to, I was attacked in many ways and I had lost my trust in people. I thanked him for his honesty in the situation and commented how hard it must be. I then asked him if his wife was listening. She wasn't but he put her on speaker phone. I then told them this news. The only thing I heard were tears, cries and 'Thank you's'. I told them that I had strict rules and sent them the draft of the document. I asked them to ask a lawyer or maybe the hospital lawyer to review it. If they agreed we could sign the document. Later their daughter called me. Same story as her parents. I just hope that this time round, the money will do good. Her doctor contacted me and we are going to arrange the financial details once the contract has been signed between my cousin and I. Other family members of mine have done the greedy grab hands. No was the simple answer, alongside the number of the investment advisor. Told them good luck and blocked the beggers. I don't worry as much as them finding out where I live. My parents, brother and his wife/my SIL can win a tight-lip contest with an oyster. 🆕🆕🆕🆕🆕 [**An update**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/r23jcg/an_update/) submitted November 2021 I have an update once more on the whole saga. I don't know if more updates will follow, but If something happens I will post here. The good news is that most family members have stopped bothering me and Hubby. Eldest has a social media account that we go through together and he has received some nasty things on that. Eldest blocked them, reported them and thanks to our dear lawyer friend who sent some letters. It got relatively quiet once again. Those without a no contact order in place have suddenly reached out more often. People Hubby or I haven’t spoken to/with in years contact us more often. We keep it polite and pleasant. Entitled cousin had to pay several fines, damages and has 2 years of probation. He tried to threaten us again. We told him Froofroo would love to meet him again...Blabbermouth knows in which town we live now. Entitled cousin seems to have told her. We have seen her around town. We hope she stays away as per the NC order. The bad news is about my cousin with the sick daughter. SD will be the sick daughter and DSD will be my cousin/her dad. MSD will be the mom, wife of my cousin. She was eventually allowed to go home for a while, although with a lot of equipment, medication and such. But hey, everyone was happy SD was home for a little while. Since the beginning of the pandemic SD quarantined and rarely went out. Same goes for DSD and MSD. They hardly allowed visitors over, their elder children quarantined, tested themselves before coming over, and wore masks when they came over etc. They took every measure to heart. They were warned that COVID would/could be the death of her. The times they went out were times that they knew places would be quiet and people were scarce. They took some sort of subscription to get groceries delivered to their house on a weekly basis. The driver, bless his heart, found out about the situation and even went as far as to disinfect and mask himself, even though he only put the groceries at the door. He also wiped the handles of the crates and bags. DSD and MSM managed to work from home the entire time. It was hard on them. I will cut the story short(er). SD died. She contracted COVID and due to her already weak immune system she passed away. She didn't contract it form her parents or siblings. They tested regularly just to be on the safe side. The likeable source? A relative of MSD. The guy was someone who didn’t take COVID seriously. He went someplace, got symptoms afterwards. He went to get himself tested because his boss didn’t want him at a job site without a negative test. (Relative works in construction.) Well wouldn't you know? He tested positive. Health services explained what he had to do, his boss did the same. Boss would keep paying him. Relative had to stay home and quarantine. Back to the story. MSD and DSD had troubles with some leak. SD’s room was next to the bathroom and they had been seeing some wet spots in her bedroom wall. Figuring it was a leak they called this relative. Ask him if he had time. They explained the situation and they asked him to take the precautions. He said he would take precautions. Told them he had tested negative on a test. Maybe he thought that since he couldn’t work he would do this instead. Earn some extra cash. He had to come into SD’s room to get some things done and took his mask off several times to cough saying ‘it was so hot and he needed fresh air’. He was reminded every time to get that thing back on. He was asked to leave and not to return after a couple of times. Work wasn’t finished but they didn’t care. The leak was found and taken care of with a temporary fix. A couple of days later SD got very sick and had to be transported to the hospital. She tested positive for COVID. She died there. To say people are devastated is an understatement. DSD called me in tears a couple of days after her passing. His tears were enough to know what had happened. In the background I could hear MSD screaming. It turns out she was calling her relative about her daughter’s death and he informed her that he was positive the time he was there to help them fix things. My cousin said goodbye quickly and went to deal with that situation. I don’t know what happened afterwards. Only thing I know is that MSD cursed and yelled at him for lying, whilst knowing that SD was sick and COVID was a real threat to her. We did get an invite for her online funeral service. Hubby and I both ‘attended’. We sent some flowers and a card. This was almost 2 months ago. DSD video called last night. This wasn’t a man anymore, more of a shell. Still so lost after the loss of his daughter, his only daughter. His wife….They are not doing great at all. It was heartbreaking and devastating to see them. We talked about the funds. They wanted to thank us anyway. We told them we wanted to donate the amount for research. They were glad we wanted to do so. So that’s the update. Sooner than I would have wanted and not with the news I had hopes of sharing. Stay safe people and I hope you have a good, and above all, healthy holiday season. [**The inside of a hospital, how EC lost his job and how Blabbermouth has the honour of meeting Froufrou**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/rxbezw/the_inside_of_a_hospital_how_ec_lost_his_job_and/) submitted January 6, 2022 Dear people on reddit. I thought that no more updates would be needed as the peace seemed to have returned. It wasn't for long however. Last time I gave an update on the situation with my cousin. Now I write this as it is EC (entitled cousin) and Blabbermouth related. For the people not familiar with Blabbermouth and EC drama, I refer you to my previous posts. Hang on tight for another long update. It all starts with EC & Blabbermouth staying in touch with each other. They kept complaining and apparently blaming all their misfortune on me. I am the source of their problems and if I just had done what I 'was supposed to do' then none of all the bad things would've happened. EC then had the bright idea that I should be punished. So what did they talk about? Well, it put me in the hospital. EC had some friend of him follow me. Since I don't work the regular office hours it took me about 3 weeks before I noticed the same person following me around. I got scared as I have been followed in the past. Nothing came of it in the end but then it made me vigilant. I took some precautions to be sure, made the reports with law enforcement and asked our nice neighbour and his wife, NN and NW, if he could keep an eye out. They would. (NN has expierence as a PI, law enforcement, specialises in training for police dogs and such.) It happened about 2,5 weeks before Christmas. I was walking on the street talking on my phone when EC and that buddy of his dragged me in a quiet street and proceeded to beat me. In a lull I managed to hit them where men tend to hurt a lot, add some blows where I could before I set off an alarm with the volume of a ship's horn to alert people and do my best to get away. (where I'm from, civilians aren't allowed to carry guns, tasers or stun guns like in the US, so save the 'Get a gun’ talk) Police and ambulance came, reports were made, the whole shebang. I was brought to the hospital and the damage: a lot bruises, 6 broken ribs, a broken wrist and and some bruising to organs. I'm doing all right. I had to stay for a little while as there are some concerns about my lungs, liver and kidneys. Now, who is wondering where Blabbermouth is in this story? Don't worry, I'll tell you. To preface. In the time we have lived in this neighbourhood, NN and NW have become friends of me and my family. They both know what has happened, know about the money and have provided friendship, sets of extra eyes and a dog for my children to fawn over. NN and NW don't have children (not their choice) and have become another aunt and uncle to my children. The children love NN, NW and are Froufrou's biggest kid fans. Kids, NW and NN (just a bit) were begging for a sleepover with them. So after quarantine, testing negative on PCR tests and such NN, NW and Froufrou had my children over. Blabbermouth found out were my kids were (I think she has been following them) and on the day that EC and his buddy were beating me up she went to them while they were outside and tried to convince them to come with her. When they refused, she grabbed the youngest and tried to drag him with her. Bad move Blabbermouth. Froufrou needed his walk and my children took him for that walk. NN was around but not close enough to intervene swiftly. There was no need, Froufrou did. The moment she tried to drag my youngest away, Froufrou came sprinting towards them and started barking his head off, growling when he wasn't. NN heard his dog, saw who was there with my kids and called the cops, while running towards the situation. A little while later Blabbermouth got to quality test the backseat of a police vehicle. According to NN she was behaving like a Karen (Hope I use the term right), telling everybody that was in the vicinity how NN should be arrested for having a vile and dangerous dog and that she didn't do anything wrong. She's out on bail and charged with attempted child abduction and breaking of the NC order. EC and his buddy also had bail set and paid it along with some nice charges.As to what Blabbermouth was thinking, I don't know. I know that EC's idea was to beat me into submission. Hubby had a (not so) nice chat on the phone with EC's mummy as she called him and asked if we could drop the charges. Turns out that EC's boss fired him. It seems that he had some disciplanary action going against him already and this was the final straw in his boss's eyes. EC got to his work, only to be lead into the office to meet with his resignation papers. We found out where his whole 'bow to the will of the family' crap came from...Mummy dearest. She basically told Hubby that if I had done what they 'asked' then nothing bad would have happened. I was from outside of the family (so is she, married to an uncle of Hubby) so I should do as I was told.I just had enough time to get out some snacks and a drink to listen to the sweet sounds of him going ballistic. It was lovely and scary to hear. I took the phone when he took a breather and told her she heard what he had to say and the whole spiel of 'contact my lawyer, harassment, yada, yada'. Click and block. She hasn't called since.Note: EC (now) had a good job that paid well, his wife also works and they are able to pay the bills, save some as well and have some extra to spend. He and his wife and family have a comfortable life. It's not like they are in dire straits with debts. So for people commenting that he must be desperate for money, he isn't. After this incident and a couple of (attempted) break-ins, a neighbourhood watch was formed. We gave the people involved a photograph of Blabbermouth and of EC. Told them only that we had NC orders against them and asked them to call law enforcement if they were spotted in the neighbourhood. All in all we had a nice Christmas and New Year's eve. We are doing as well as can be. I am still sore and have to go to the hospital for check ups.Hubby and I are getting progressively concerned since EC and Blabbermouth are not deterred by the piece of paper that states 'No Contact order'. Moving again is out of the question. When Hubby and I were talking one night while the kids were in bed. Eldest had come downstairs and overheard us. He was adament that he didn't want to move. His reasons were that if they did this and we would move again after each escalation, we would have to keep moving. He felt safe in this home and with Froufrou, NW and NN in the vicinity. The other 2 agree when we talked with them in the morning. Kids are shaken but doing relatively well. Due to what happened, we are also looking into therapy for all of us. The youngest is quite shaken but for now is thinking more of how cool it was that Froufrou protected him and how Blabbermouth was trying to climb a car. Eldest understands what has happened a bit better and is more fearful. NN and NW have offered Froufrou for sleepovers so that the kids feel safer. We are also thinking about getting our own Froufrou. NN has already offered to help in the purchase and training of the dog.Hubby is frantic with worry about what might've happened and what EC might try in the future. We are also going to do some research in how to protect ourselves further. We are talking with law enforcement, our dear Lawyer friend and other people to see what is possible in terms of the law and without turning our neighbourhood in a heavy security prison or something like that. So that's that. [**A good update**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/ry3c8t/a_good_update/) submitted January 7, 2022 I didn't think I would come back with an update so soon. Grab the snacks and drinks, turn on the music and dance with me (or more, for me, as my ribs still hurt). EC and Blabbermouth have been arrested and are now finding out how the jail look from the inside. Hubby and I were both called by them, begging us to drop the charges. With this they broke the NC order and the bail order. We got everything recorded and then called law enforcement immediately along with dear Lawyer Friend. They were arrested. Just received the news. Happy butt wiggle for me!!! [**EC meets Karma**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/sm7gli/ec_meets_karma/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) submitted February 5, 2022 A small update as I don't have a lot to tell but I thought that you might want to hear this. EC and Blabbermouth are still getting used to their new environment (a.k.a. prison). They are not to be released again until trial. We hope that won't change so happy dance for us. But EC met someone else and that one is Karma. And Karma is a B****. I was informed of this by none other than EC's wife, henceforth known as Wonder woman (WW). WW came to my house not to yell at me, curse me or threaten me. Nope. She came to thank me. I was apprehensive and didn't allow her inside but what she put through the mailslot to me then made me invite her in. WW story: EC was apparently financially and emotionally abusive. He never laid a hand on her or their children and never abused their children but whatever money she made, he made sure he got it. She was only allowed to work for cash so he could get his hands on it easier. Whatever savings she had, he had forced her to surrender it in the name of 'We are a unit now'. She was broken and afraid. He had threatened divorce and taking the children 'because no judge would give her custody since she couldn't support them. In that case he wouldn't allow her to see them as she was a bad wife and mother for leaving him'. But now that he was behind bars she found the rest of the courage she needed and access to all of the bank accounts, joint and her own, as well as other important things. WW already had had contact with a divorce lawyer but was too afraid to actually go through with it. Her parents had talked to her many times and told her to get some real legal advice. She finally did but was biding her time. So when EC got arrested and sent to prison for a longer stay this time, she got the locks changed (house is in her name, inheritance), put all his things in boxes, closed the joint account after dividing the money equally, did a whole list of other things I can't remember and on the same day he was served with the papers, his parents got a lot of boxes with his stuff and a letter. WW was divorcing him! The stack of papers she gave me? A copy of the divorce papers. WW was crying. She was and has been so afraid. Apology after apology about not being able to stop him from doing all those things. The reason she came was to let me know this and how me getting beaten up and EC breaking the bail was the miracle she needed. She apologised because my misery enabled her escape. I told her I wasn't angry at her. She did what she could. I was a bit surprised about the speed of everything, but with help from her parents, her family and her friends she had been planning her 'flight to freedom' as she called it for at least 7-8 months. What set her in motion was 'The Visit' and along with what he had said about it all... it lifted whatever blindness she had. WW finally believed those words others had said about EC. It took some time but after getting help, WW started planning everything. She's afraid but relieved. WW was crying tears of joy, fear and sadness at the same time. She kept apologising although I ensured her she had nothing to worry about. Her parents are helping out financially for the moment as she is looking for a job. I asked her about what she used to do and after telling me, I gave an old friend of me a call. I knew he was looking for someone and asked if he could send the job description as I know someone who might fit. WW looked and told me this might work. Friday she called me say that she has an interview next week. Fingers crossed. We had a good chat and I gave her my number so she could call me if she needed help. I'm good at budgetting and next week I'm going to her and help her. So EC is in prison for the time being but when he gets out, sooner or later (rather later), it will be crappy for him. He will have no job, no home, no wife, no support from friends (his buddy told the friend group everything and they dropped him so fast as if he was a live grenade), a record and might not be able to go to his parents as his father is furious and disowned him. And that is how up until this point, EC meets Karma. Let's see what else life, and hopefully Karma, has in stock for EC. [**EC meets Karma once again**](https://www.reddit.com/user/Burneraccount-909876/comments/srrfrl/ec_meets_karma_once_again/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) submitted February 12, 2022 Someone commented on my last post that they hoped Karma would come to him through his fellow prisoners. Do you have the power to predict things by any chance? Because that has happened. LF (Lawyer friend) keeps us up to date about both EC and Blabbermouth whenever possible. EC was wise enough to keep some details about his reasons for his prison stay to himself. Smart man, I'm told that some people who reside there don't take it well when you hurt women or children. But his fellow prisoners did find out he had beaten a woman and helped plan a child abduction. Well.... he was given a taste of his own medicine..... Only difference between him and me is that I had some serious injuries. He got beaten up but only suffered some bruises. No broken bones or internal injuries. Prison guards were quick to intervene when it happened. As to how his fellow prison people found out what he did? Well, his mother visited him and they were talking....and his mother does not have the ability to whisper....so I wouldn't be surprised that whilst they talked others heard and were not happy with what they heard. But that is a guess, her visit and what happened were mere hours after each other.
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"2022-12-15T23:31:01"
The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws, part 4
NEW UPDATE
Go grab some snacks and a blanket, this is suuuuuper long. I compiled it in a Microsoft Word document and it’s 43 pages 😳😳 These posts were made by Burneraccount-909876, almost entirely in r/EntitledPeople. It was [previously posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/paev3n/buckle_up_this_is_a_long_and_wild_ride_op/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on BORU by simply posting all the links of the posts that had been put up at that time. The update will be separated by 🆕🆕🆕🆕🆕 I made some minor formatting edits, but everything else I pasted exactly as-is. [PART 1]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzs61/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_1/), [PART 2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmztmz/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_2/), [PART 3]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzvwr/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_3/), [PART 4]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzxd6/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_4/), [PART 5]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzyx3/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_5/) ——— [**CoddleMum to the (not so) rescue**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/t27g5v/coddlemum_to_the_not_so_rescue/) submitted February 26, 2022 I would like to introduce you to CoddleMum (CM). She's EC's (entitled cousin) mother. WW: wonder woman a.k.a EC's soon to be ex-wife is also mentioned. To us it seems like she is in (almost) in complete agreement with her son.She doesn't like it one bit that her precious son had to exchange his nice house with wife and children to a prison cell and divorce papers. When CM and EC's dad were met with EC's belongings, CM lost her absolute mind.WW called me to relay the story. CM called WW and started her spiel of 'How dare you divorce my absolute gem of a son ?' (puke anyone?) WW had learned from me and recorded everything in case she needed it. WW just simply waited till CM had to draw some breath before she something along the lines of that EC should be happy he wasn't charged with financial abuse as well (proof aplenty according to her) and that since she loved her son so much, she could have him as CM always thought WW's only purpose was to provide EC with children and meet his every need. Some other things were said and WW is a woman who I start to admire more with each passing day. Really, It's like she broke free and became something amazing. She doesn't care that people play the 'family card'. She learned from my mistakes and unlike Hubby or LF she doesn't sugar coat her words. She told me in no uncertain terms that I behaved with too much caution and forgiveness and should have burned them to the ground the moment they started their crap. I have to admit, I agree. EC's dad walked in on that conversation and lost his mind on CM. WW told CM that she did not want any contact. EC 's dad could call and they would make arrangements for him to see the grandchildren. WW is working with a lawyer and social services on how to approach visits between CM and her grandchildren concerning some things that you will read below. So after getting an earful from her soon to be ex DIL, CM started calling me and Hubby demanding that we drop everything , begged their forgiveness for nonsense like 'tearing the family apart and not doing what was right'. We recorded, hung up, blocked her and saved everything we needed and filed for a NC order. But when all of her shenaningens didn't work she tried something else. She seemed to have learned from her son EC where I lived. So she came to our house but as we have doorbells with camera (love the invention) with recording settings, I could enjoy the show from my spot on the couch while she dug her own grave. Like hell I was opening the door with CM outside. Hahaha....no lady, heck no. I was so glad my children and hubby were not home. Screams alternated between 'How dare you do this to my son?!', ' I am going to (insert violence here) to you', and ' You should have given him what he wanted! That is how it's done!!’ (Hello medieval mindset where the men matter and women only matter to give the men what they want. I understood in an instant where EC got this 'Bow down to the will of the family' came from.) Too bad I couldn't get any snacks or drinks due to doctor's orders of rest but watching from the cameras how CM lost her mind and started throwing everything she could at my home and then get arrested by our town's Finest people in blue, was priceless. I am also slightly disappointed she didn't get to meet Froufrou and my 4th" baby" 'LeFou'. Yep we got a dog. Lefou is a super-duper sweety pie rottweiler mix of about 2 years old. Total lapdog for us and just the right kind of protective. He was already being trained by the name he went. Turns out that NW knows the breeder and she was asked to name the pups of this litter. Lefou and my family have been doing some extensive training with NN. This day, LeFou was at the vet with my Hubby and children for meet and greet and health inspection. So hello, LF, do you still have some spare time? Now you don't, or have even less. LF is sometimes wondering if my Hubby was adopted because he can't believe the sheer stupidity of some of his family members (spoiler, he isn't adopted). Join the club. WW is also been updated about this. I thought she might need it in case CM and visitation of the grandkids. Oh and WW got the job! She is also in the process of further protecting herself but I won't share that info. I don't condone violence but that woman should be happy that neither my husband, kids, LeFou, NN, NW of Froufrou were around. She would have been toast. But hey, the plus side is that she now know how the bench in a cell feels like...from my point of view at least. [**MIL blew it**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/u3fs4i/mil_blew_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) submitted April 14, 2022 Dear reddit people, I hope you are all well. I have a new, long update. Title says it all. Last week on Saturday we went to have coffee with my FIL and MIL as we often do. We made sure to give them a call notifying them we would be coming so FIL could notify BIL in case he wanted to come (NC order, works fine. BIL is not in the mood for visits from our local people in blue and fines). Kids came with us and Hubby's other sister (second kid of FIL and MIL) was there as well. Kids love her although she is very opinionated and can only see things black and white. No middle ground. She and Blabbermouth do not get along. That was even before I became an addition to the family. For the sake of this post I'll call her Lucy. We get there, get our drinks with cake and are having a nice chat when MIL blew it. We told them that during these visits we would not discuss the situation with Blabbermouth and EC. If she wanted to do so, we would see each other for that on a different time and day. We want these visits to be for other things than that. This was firmly explained to especially MIL as she began to talk about Blabbermouth twice in a row. She stopped after we just got up and left. Then last week she had to do it again. MIL started to say she felt so sorry for Blabbermouth, how awful it must be for her. We told her to stop as this is not what we came for. Lucy also told her to stop. Then MIL asked the questions she should never have asked: "Don't you have pity? Don't you feel sorry for her?” Kaboom. My youngest two started crying, my eldest, me, Hubby and Lucy all flipped our lids. Hubby and I decided that we needed to deal with our children. We took them outside, made sure they were calm and felt safe before I went back in. Lucy was still grilling her mother. I told her she could stop. MIL wasn't crying but just looked at me with a numb look for the lack of a better description. My 'speech' to my MIL (almost verbatim): 'To answer your questions. No, I don't feel sorry for her or do I pity her. We helped her with her home, we helped and still help her children with the a college education, and if they do it right, with a home. We took you all on a holiday. Unbeknowst to you all it was MY good word that got her the job she has now when I was asked. Because although I hate her entitlement and the way she talks about me, I acknowledge she is incredibly good at her job. I would never screw someone over if they I thought they are good at their job and reasonably decent to those they work with. SHE wanted more, SHE demanded we give more only because we are related, because we're FAMILY. Like an obligation to do whatever. SHE always thought she had some priority over me, Hubby and our family simply because SHE popped her children out first. SHE had told Hubby to divorce me because I would never amount to anything and every form of education I followed was a waste of time and money. But the moment we have money she demands money. When she heard the word 'No' to her outreagous demand she japped at the family, against our wishes, causing all the troubles we have now, destroying relationships in the process. SHE talked with EC about attacking me, hurting me and abducting our children and acted on it. I needed surgery FFS because of that attack and I'm not out of the woods yet. Our children are in therapy because SHE tried to take them against their will. Hubby is in therapy because of her and EC as he feels like he can't protect his family. I will be fine, but she had the audacity to fuck with my family. Don't ever expect for me to feel sorry for her after all the crap SHE has put my family through. HER OWN FAMILY FFS! Family only has value to her when she can get something from them, no matter the cost to others. As long as she gets what she wants without the need to pay. You won't be seeing me or the children for a time. I don't care what Hubby decides. You are his mother and I will NEVER tell him he can't see you or talk to you. I love you with all my heart. I thank you for raising my husband to the man he is now, but I will not put the children through this sheer favouritism and hurt it causes them.' To FIL ‘We won't be coming for a while. We have so much to deal with already and can't have MIL adding to it. I or Hubby will give a call to discuss some things.’ With that I grabbed the coats and left. Hubby had a call with FIL later. They had a long talk about how he had enough of his mother's favouritism towards his sister when there is conflict. He told FIL that he holds no grudge against him but he needs a break. Lucy and I needed to do some shopping together yesterday and she told me that MIL could only sit afterwards. According to Lucy and FIL, after we left FIL didn't say anything to her. He just took the mugs, plates and stuff to the kitchen, placed it in the dishwasher, wiped everyting down and then sat on the chair looking at her and just telling her, as calm as ever, 'You blew it. The daughter in law who forgave so much, was willing to let so much slide, who helped us out so much and who tried not to involve the law because of us and our family, has had enough. And she is right.' MIL started crying. Lucy was asked to leave then. To her credit, she leaves us be. Normally I would have taken her to certain appointments but she and FIL made other arrangements for the time being. We are NC with MIL for a while. My children are devastated. They knew that MIL had a soft spot for Blabbermouth but they are shocked that their grandmother ignores the hurt her own daughter causes to her son, daugher in law and grandchildren. They miss her. They have a lot of questions. Hubby is broken and angry. He had a talk with his therapist about it. He misses her but he told me that his mother needs to learn a harsh lesson now. I told him once again, that I would never demand from him to stop seeing his mother. If he wishes, he can go, he can call, whatever. I wouldn't be angry. He knows my boundaries. I simply won't go to visit nor am I willing to talk to her. For now we don't want the children to go there as well. If she wishes to apologise, fine. Not now, as I'm still fuming. If/when she wants to apologise, she will have to come up with an insanely good apology as I'm not willing to sweep this obvious favouritism under the rug. I've done that too much already. For now I have her blocked on my phone and I have removed myself from the family groupchat. I love my MIL tremendously. She helped us a lot when the children were little. In our time of need, they (and my parents) were there. They have always respected our parenting decisions even though they did not always agree with them. When MIL and FIL babysat, they respected our wishes. She would 'freestyle' when they were a bit older but made sure they had their sleep, ate healthy meals and snacks, with the occassional treat and such. I was always treated with love and respect. I helped them out whenever and however I could. So this hurts. She has seen me in the hospital, she saw what was done to me. She has seen the fear my children had and have, has seen the hurt in Hubby's eyes. She has seen this all and all she knows and does is turning a (semi) blind eye to her daughter's actions. She acknowledges EC's actions against us but not what her own daugther's. Hello therapist! I just want this nightmare to end. [**Update on MIL blew it.**]( https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/uiu33w/update_on_mil_blew_it/) submitted May 5, 2022 A small update on MIL. MIL contacted Hubby. She went over to our house. Hubby was home alone (took a week off).We were expecting a parcel delivery. Delivery man came, Hubby checked cameras and went to open the door. Parcel, signature yadayada. As the man went, MIL came. She came up to him and started talking. Hubby just stood there with the parcel in his hands and after she stopped talking he told her: 'Mom, your own daughter tried to hurt your own son and harmed your daughter in law and grandchildren. She knew OP would be attacked and encouraged it. If she did not, she knew and didn't care what would happen to her. She didn't report it or do anything to try and stop it. My wife will probably need surgery AGAIN! (Side note: Left kidney, liver and spleen were always problematic, thanks to EC and the beating even more so to the point they might need to be removed. Will hear this tomorrow.) Now you ask us to pity her and show mercy when all that happened was because SHE broke the law. She hurt US. You keep choosing her, even when things like this happen and hit you across the face. When you see the damage she has done with your own eyes. You keep finding excuses for her horrible behaviour. I've had enough. I know you love her and I will never ask you to choose sides. I only ask you to condemn her behaviour and actions, nothing else. You don't. By asking us to show mercy and feel pity you don't. We don't blame you for what happened. We blame Blabbermouth and EC. Don't blame yourself for what they did. Stop defending her. Get therapy, you need it. You need to see what is happening and accept that by no fault of yours, your daughter hurt others. I love you mum. Now you need to go away. I don't want to talk to you when you continue to excuse her behaviour and the harm she caused to others. Don't contact us. We will contact you IF we ever feel ready to.' Then he shut the door and locked it. MIL just stood there for a little while and left. I found Hubby bawling his eyes out when I got home an hour later. I've sent the recordings of the doorbell camera to LF in case we need an NC order for MIL. I don't think so as he is the golden son and she always tends to do as he says. But better safe than sorry. In the evening FIL came by to watch a game with Hubby and he told us what happened after MIL came home. FIL asked where she had gone to and she started to cry, scream etc and relayed what happened. That she doesn't want to lose her son and his family. She asked herself why had it come to this to which FIL truthfully answered that his son (Hubby) was right. She kept choosing her daughter over her son no matter what. That she can still love her daughter but condemn what she did. She doesn't . MIL told him that all she feels is that the need to protect her child to which FIL responded that how understandable that may be, by doing so she hurts her other child. A child who also needs her. Paraphrased: 'Love both and don't choose sides. Your daughter hurt your son and his family. Your son hurts because his own sister has hurt his wife and his children. He hurts because she cares more about getting what she wants. He hurts because you can't see that. Love both as is natural to you as a loving mother, but open your eyes to the hurt that has been caused.' She asked him if he could help her with Hubby and me and this is how he responded (again paraphrased): ‘I will not lift a finger to help you in this situation with them. This is all your own doing. I have warned you many times in the past, more so in the last year that this might happen. That these actions might have this outcome. Our son's idea of therapy might be a good idea. However, this will not automatically mean you get to see them again and be in their lives. Before this mess started, Hubby and OP were kind, had an open mind, trusting, tended to see the good in people and when bad things happened to try and see what caused it and condemning it whenever they would deem it was warranted. They still are good, kind people, they still try to see and figure out what caused certain things but they have become suspicious of people's motives. They aren't so trusting anymore. They are scared that they will get hurt, that the children will get hurt. If you ever want a chance to see them again, you need to respect them and their decisions. Accept that they might not forgive you whatever you do. By now you know that they , and especially OP, will not excuse behaviour in the name of 'Family' any longer. She and our son have finally learned to stand up to such a degree that nobody dares to mess with them. You and OP are both loving people, you love your husbands, children and others. The difference between the two of you is that OP is now willing to go ballistic when she feels her children and/or husband are threatened. Don 't mess with this mama bear. She will not back down if you go too far and you know it.' (Do you understand why I love and respect this man so much?) MIL just kept crying silent tears. Lucy also tells me that her mother is a shell of who she was. She keeps saying that she lost her son and his family and how sorry she is. To be honest, I feel like karma came for MIL. As of now, I don't feel any inclination of having contact with her. She is elderly and I know that she might die without ever seeing us again. It hurts a lot. She really means so much to me but I will not expose myself or my children to her favouritism. She may be crying about how sorry she is, I will only believe her if she proves it. I don't believe words anymore, just actions. What we need is for her to show us that love for Blabbermouth should not blind her to this degree. I hope she can, I truly hope so. She won't get a 'get out of time out' card because she is family. [**BIL & Blabbermouth have come to beg: a comedy**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/uxglg7/bil_blabbermouth_have_come_to_beg_a_comedy/) submitted April 25, 2022 Dear reddit family, Another long update. Trigger warning for some violence/abuse. I started writing about my experiences simply to gain insights, opinions and blow off some steam and as a somewhat therapeutic measure so to speak. I found out that my posts have been used by several YT channels to broadcast them to others. That's fine. When I found out about them, I was mostly interested in the comments. They really opened my eyes and showed me that I was naïve, gullible and an incredible doormat. Maybe more so then what Hubby and LF told me. NW and NN found out about the posts and agree with you all. So thank you all. Other family members have also found out about the post. They weren't happy with it and some started to spout some bullshit about privacy but when they read the responses and saw everything from my point of view, they felt even more ashamed than they already did. In one of my lasts post people gave a lot of advice on protecting ourselves and our home. Thank you all for that .We have also been following some self defense and martial arts classes when possible. The children were given alarms, schools were told about what happened and protocols were written for their safety. We sold our cars and bought other ones that we park some streets away. We have the majority of our groceries delivered as well. A company specialised in home defense was told to make our home feel safe again. We have a contract with that company so in case crap hits the fan, they know to haul their butts our way asap. Local law enforcement also has a big red flag attached to our phone numbers and address. We don't expect a lot now but better safe than sorry. We certainly have learned that. The neighbourhood watch is a success. We have had a lot less (attempted) break-ins and theft. My children have found their courage to walk LeFou on their own without either me or Hubby. They are not as afraid as they were shortly after the debacle with Blabbermouth and EC. Talks with their therapists have helped a lot. Eldest struggles sometimes as he thinks that being the eldest means taking care of his siblings without fail. I needed some surgery as the beating made some pre-existing health issues worse. Hubby is still restless sometimes, he has taken his self defense and martial arts lessons seriously. He thought and still thinks at times that he failed in his 'duty' to protect his family. With the help of his therapist he can shake that feeling more. I've told him numerous times that he never failed us. He loves us and has always been there for us as a father and husband. Eldest takes a lot after Hubby in this regard. It doesn't surprise my as I have proudly given birth to my Hubby's clone. NN has been a great help as well. Sometimes men need another man/men to tell them whatever they need to hear without therapist talk. Current status on people MIL: Time out (see other post, happened around 3 weeks ago. This happened today) Lucy and FIL: no problems EC: Still in prison, though secluded. Inmates really don't like him apparently. I'm not even wondering why. CoddleMum: EC's mother. BIL: NC order had been lifted as of last week. No harassment or any other things so no reason for extension. He isn't blocked on our phones. If people want to dig their own graves, then I'm all for helping them. Blabbermouth: Still in prison. “Woe is me” attitude. Only our lawyers talk with each other and with the Procecutor. The hellhag still has an active NC order. She has been blocked on my phone, not on Hubby's. Same reason as with BIL. LF: Lawyer friend, hero without a cape, devil without horns. Worth every penny/cent/dollar etc. BML: Blabbermouth's lawyer Bro: My 1.89m tall brother, has the build of a tank, strong as one, kind-hearted, no nonsense man. SIL3: Bro's partner, Maggie for the sake of the posts. NN: Nice neighbour NW: Nice neighbour's wife Froufrou: NW and NN's loving dog, another hero without a cape who'll take snacks and cuddles as his reward. Lefou: our own loving dog, hero in training, who'll also take snacks and cuddles as his reward. Onto part 1. LF called us. Apparently he got a call form BIL that Blabbermouth wants to plea guilty in exchange for no time in prison. As of now, she faces between 5 to 10 years in prison if she's found guilty. I thought that this crap wasn't possible. According to LF, she hardly has a chance at that. She can get a reduction but no more if she goes for the guilty plea. Also, what surprised us is that BIL called LF directly instead of going through their lawyer. So what does our beloved LF do? Laugh in the phone, hangs up and calls their lawyer telling them what BIL has done. Apparently BML just sighed deeply and thanked LF before hanging up. Our thoughts: Blabbermouth and BIL don't hear what they want to hear from their own lawyer so they try it through ours. Nice try. Part 2: BIL's visit Several days after LF called to tell us about BIL and Blabbermouth's delusion/fantasy we got several texts from 4 of our beloved nieces and nephews who are BIL and Blabbermouth's kids. Number 5 doesn't like me and like his mother, blames me for all of her misfortune. We know that the only he doesn't bother us is that his parents have warned him to stay out of this ( as of now he hasn't messed up that we are still somewhat willing to pay for his college education). The other 4 kids and us have a good relationship. They know what mother dearest tried to do and have decided on their own that they're done with her entitled crap and with their father semi-enabling it. 1 and 2 have moved out, 3 and 4 can't just yet but are barely home. Since their mother is in jail the eldest 2 decided to drop in on their father and younger siblings to keep an eye out and help when needed. BIL was very unhappy and angry, he knows that what Blabbermouth did was wrong but he thinks the whole kidnapping and assault thing is blown out of proportion. They were all having lunch and BIL came with the "amazing" idea to have a talk with me and to an extent, Hubby. Who's phone explodes with texts after that lunch? Mine and Hubby's. Eldest niece tried and managed to get a timeframe from her father and texted us that. Since we didn't want our children to watch whatever might go down, we asked Bro and Maggie if they could go there for a couple of days and hang out with their cousins. No problem after explaining the situation. The children were scared but didn't want to leave. Bro flexes his muscles (they love that) and tells them that he will keep them safe. Then we call NN and NW, explain the situation and to ask if they are available in case we need witnesses and help. Before we could finish asking we heard the doorbell ring. NN, NW and Froufrou were there. (I really love these people and dog) So some hours later and BIL makes his grand appearance. For those of you who wondered if we invited him in...of course not. Heck, we didn't even open the door. The doorbell camera has been the granded its own altar at our home...well, almost then. He began his sob story about how Blabbermouth didn't mean it, she was sorry yada, yada, yada, sob sob sob. He asked/begged through his sobs if we could drop the charges. Nah, even if I could, I wouldn't. Oh BIL, fun fact! The prosecuter is the one who decides that now. You know, because what Blabbermouth did are felonies! You don't get to try and abduct people and get away with a slap on the wrist. You don't get to show your big blue eyes and get away with aiding and abetting assault. Even if he changes his mind it won't be because of your puppy eyes begging but of lack of evidence...of which he has plenty. You know that. I'm sure that your lawyer has told you this, so why the heck are you trying it here? Oh right, because you and Blabbermouth don't want to hear 'No'. Last but not least. Me, Hubby and children will be a lot safer if her entitled behind is in jail and not polluting the free air with her scents of entitlement. After hearing this piece of information BIL became angry. Family this, family that, more "family helps each other" crap and the golden phrase was 'But she's family and you don't hurt family. To which we responded with 'But we're her family. Why did she hurt us then?' No response. He just stood there. Then he started cursing. How I was a sl*t, a bi*ch and that it was all my fault. Sure BIL, blame the one who helped pay off your mortgage and your children's tuition because all we wanted was to help family. If you don't want the money, then we would like to have it back. Would you like to pay it back all in one go or a payment plan? (yes, we were semi-teasing). He raged on about that. 'How dare you?! ' and 'It's not funny!' Of course it isn't funny, but what isn't funny as well, is that Blabbermouth only accepted me when it suited her and when things happened the way she wanted. If not, she would try to manipulate things and people so she could still get (something of) what she wanted. We helped you and when we say no to an absurd request, she loses her everloving mind. She destroys relationships, the good and the neutral ones. She destroyed our feeling of safety and our health, so on and so forth. For what, a holiday of which I know you have the money for or at least for a good part of it? You don't like it that she's in jail. That's fine. She reaps what she sows. You and Blabbermouth should talk to your lawyer to see what can be done about this with the least amount of 'damage'. Family means nothing to you and Blabbermouth when it doesn't get you anything. Go away. We will call the cops and see if we can get more NC/restraining/C&D orders shoved up your behind. Oh and don't try anything stupid. Look at EC and Blabbermouth to see how that one worked out. After saying something along above said lines, he left. We made a copy of the video footage, called the police and went through the entire process again. LF came by for a visit and was baffled and actually sighed. He simply can't understand their thought process. Turns out CoddleMum was also giving him a rough time by basically demanding he does something about her son being in jail. So he did something... He basically told her to shove off in a legal way....unless she wants to spend money on her own lawyer and having unpleasant side effects from such legal papers. Like I said earlier in the post I needed surgery and NW has offered to stay when Hubby is away to help me and keep an eye out. She can work from home and help out in case the family nutjobs return. She has become more than a friend. When she isn't working we talk a lot and got to know each other on a deeper level. Turns out, NW had been in a similar situation with an ex gone bonkers, even after she got together with NN and they try to help whenever they can as they know the anxiety, insecurity and fear. (No ex problems for her thankfully)
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"2022-12-15T23:32:32"
The story of OOP’s very entitled in-laws, part 5
NEW UPDATE
Go grab some snacks and a blanket, this is suuuuuper long. I compiled it in a Microsoft Word document and it’s 43 pages 😳😳 These posts were made by Burneraccount-909876, almost entirely in r/EntitledPeople. It was [previously posted](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/paev3n/buckle_up_this_is_a_long_and_wild_ride_op/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on BORU by simply posting all the links of the posts that had been put up at that time. The update will be separated by 🆕🆕🆕🆕🆕 about halfway through “PART 3”. I made some minor formatting edits, but everything else I pasted exactly as-is. [PART 1]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzs61/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_1/), [PART 2]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmztmz/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_2/), [PART 3]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzvwr/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_3/), [PART 4]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzxd6/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_4/), [PART 5]( https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zmzyx3/the_story_of_oops_very_entitled_inlaws_part_5/) ——— [**Do you see that? That's your college fund waving goodbye.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/vc5y45/do_you_see_that_thats_your_college_fund_waving/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) submitted May 15, 2022 A small but worthy update. Eldest: is my eldest child. Youngest: The youngest one. LF: Lawyer friend. This time Blabbermouth and BIL's youngest child, 18M. I'll call him Entitled Applekid (EAK) as apparently the apple does not fall far from the tree. EAK is going to start college in September if everything goes well. As some redditors might know I have a collegefund for some people in the family, EAK included. They have strict stipulations and it only covers books and tuition. No extracurriculars, housing or living expenses. They want to go and live someplace else? Fine, on your own dime that is. At the start of this whole drama the eldest had finished college. The second is set on graduating this year. The 2 middle ones are busy with college. EAK is the last one. With all what happened EAK reared his head from time to time with off hand remarks and in the beginning demands for money. We made it very clear, in words and on paper, that if he continued with this or did others things that were by law not allowed he could wave his funds goodbye. Hubby and I operated on the notion of 'A child shall not suffer for its parents' blatant stupidity. If they decide to be stupid themselves, they shall reap what they sow.' Blabbermouth and BIL have had some stern talks with EAK to keep his head down and to his studies so he could get his things paid for. They have always known we would never just hand over the money but get the information, confirm it and pay for it. Still, they didn't complain about that 'free money'. About the incident. We have instructed Eldest to not escalate situations, call us/law enforcement and seek out other adults if needed and possible in case of conflict. Filming whatever he could was something he already had figured out. Well, EAK and Eldest met by chance a couple of days ago while Eldest and his siblings went out together. Eldest just gave him a 'Hello' and turned to walk away. EAK didn't like seeing him or whatever and started to shout and curse at Eldest, preventing him to leave. My two youngest heard the commotion and ran to their brother's aid. Youngest started filming. EAK kept pushing his chest against Eldest and compliments to my son, he never hurt him and stayed calm. When EAK grabbed his shirt he used some of his skills in self defence to make sure EAK let him go but nothing else. My middle child then said something to EAK; 'Is it a family trait to want to go to jail or something? If you hurt him, you will go there. You might see your mother again'. EAK stopped, looked at them all and ran for it. Kids got home, showed me the footage along with a witness's footage and contact details and we made a trip to the police station to file a report. Then we called our lovely LF to set things in motion for an restraining order or whatever is possible. After all that we made a copy of the footage my children made and police report and sent it to BIL. Attached to it was the note that another student thanks them for their donation of a college fund since EAK decided he can do without. He threw away his chance with his own actions. According to eldest niece their parents were not happy....not happy at all. [**MIL goes to therapy**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/vi6o1k/mil_goes_to_therapy/) submitted June 22, 2022 Another update on my MIL. This one is short(er). Recap: Blabbermouth is in jail, MIL asks us for mercy and pity, we tell her 'heck no' We tell MIL to get therapy and go NC. People in the story: MIL: Good woman, but her love for her daughter Blabbermouth makes her utterly and completely blind. We are NC with her. FIL: Good and wonderful man Lucy: SIL, another sister of Hubby. Not entitled. Hubby: My husband, rock, stand up comedian and greatest love. Eldest: my eldest child Youngest: My youngest child, born 5 minutes after their twin. (yep, I have twins. No, not identical, different genders, characters are freakishly alike though.) Therapist: MIL's therapist. This week Lucy came by for a cup of coffee and she gave us some, maybe shocking, news. MIL has found a therapist. This one is part of the same practise of our therapist. We never told MIL who our therapist was or where we went. Lucy could tell us that MIL already had some sessions but didn't know the details. OK, that's a good sign. Well, we still eye it with some suspicion but let 's see where this takes us. Then last night, FIL came by again and also told us, without us prompting him, that MIL had found a therapist and had a very intensive first couple of sessions. FIL has joined a couple of them so the therapist could gather some other perspectives. He didn't tell us before as he wanted to be sure that it wasn't a one time thing. It seems that MIL came home after a session and when FIL asked her how it went and how she feels, she seems to have said something like 'I really made stupid mistakes, didn't I?' FIL asked her why she thought so and she told him that what he had said to her (see previous posts) was something that the therapist said as well. Therapist apparently said that to love a child isn't wrong but the actions that are caused by that love can do wrong to the child and, to an extent, others as well. Or something like this. She seemed very sorry and understood better what went wrong. MIL is finally beginning to understand the consequences of her actions. Halleluja!! We remain NC for now. We like this to think that this is a good start of MIL's learning process. Although it seems like good news, we are still apprehensive of letting her in our lives as of now. Our therapist knows about this all and has asked us to think about family therapy. We are thinking about this but we want MIL to really understand that why her actions drove us to go NC. Let's see what this brings. [**MIL continues with therapy, asks us to join, Spawn of Blabbermouth makes 2 new friends**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/whqdc9/mil_continues_with_therapy_asks_us_to_join_spawn/) submitted August 6, 2022 Hello redditors, It has been a month and I would like to give you an update on the current status quo. Cast: Hubby: My soulmate FIL: my father in law Lucy: Hubby's sister, elder sister of Blabbermouth, younger than my Hubby MIL: my mother in law. Spawn of Blabbermouth: Blabbermouth's youngest, one who kissed his college fund goodbye, henceforth known as SOB. NN: Nice Neighbour NW: Nice Neighbour's wife. Update on my own health: I'm healing quite well. I am home now and the doctors are pleased with my recovery. I can walk longer distances and work from home. I don't work to my fullest capacity but I'm grateful that I can do some things again. The update: To my utter surprise MIL continues with therapy. She goes once, sometimes 2 times a week and according to FIL has been making quite the progress. MIL has asked us to go to one or multiple sessions with us. It was her own idea. She wanted us to talk about it but in the confides of the therapy room as she feels like the therapist is unbiased. All right MIL, you scored another point for yourself with that in my, still suspicious, eyes. Hubby and I talked about it, between ourselves and our own therapist. We made a list, what did we want to talk about and what not. In we went and it went.....quite well. Therapist started, explained why we were asked. We could say what we thought and MIL told them that she understood (more/better/finally) our standpoint. She had written down some examples Hubby had used and she had a talk with FIL and even other family members about situations in which she blatantly favoured Blabbermouth. To keep it short(er) she explained why she felt how she felt, she understands that she should have done things somewhat differently and that she is sorry if she took Blabbermouth's side too much. She felt that Blabbermouth was like her in some ways (not the entitled ways) and therefore couldn't help herself. OK.....Hubby and I just absorbed what she had said. I simply asked what made her see it this way. Some uncomfortable moving from her side while asking what I meant. I asked the therapist if I could be honest, blunt to a point. I could to a point. I told MIL that if things got difficult or/and when she wants things to stop happening she starts ignoring what happens. Like an ostrich she sticks her head in the sand hoping everything just blows over. Going to therapy and basically dig up every little dirty thing about this was difficult. What has happened that made her go against this tactic of hers? She looked me in the eye and said 'The therapist made me see you and Hubby as kind people who love their family to a fault, allowing a lot, maybe too much. That you love me. I ruined so much by my actions. FIL said the same, aunts and uncles said the same, even the ones who hurt you. The fact that my own son, you, and the children, didn't want any contact with me was the wake up call. I know what I did was stupid, but I really had the feeling you blamed me for everything that happened and what was still going on.’ I asked if I could speak on my own behalf. I told her that I didn't blame her for what was going on, I didn't blame her for the things EC or Blabbermouth did. That were THEIR choices, not hers. She had nothing to do with any of it directly. However, I told her that by giving in so much in childhood, adolescence, and adulthood, Blabbermouth got accustomed of getting her way and expecting others to do what she wanted. If she didn't get her way she would manipulate to get her way. What felt like a knife through our heart is that I was attacked and in danger, our children were in (some) danger and she kept asking for pity and mercy for Blabbermouth, condoning her actions, not looking at or not wanting to see what she was doing to us. That went too far, that hurt too much. We understand that she loves her daughter, but it is her (selective) blindness, that condoning, excusing that behaviour etc that just hurt us the most. I repeated what I have stated before. 'Love her as you want, I cannot and won't tell you who to love or not. But look at the actions of a person, the facts of them. She hurt us, your son, me and your grandchildren. We also matter.' Hubby said he agreed with this and added his own feelings as well. She started crying and saying she was sorry. She simply didn't/couldn't believe one child was hurting her other one. It ended there with a new appointment for a couple of weeks ( summer holiday for the therapist). I think it's a good start. So to be continued. NC will continue outside of the sessions. In the meantime we have also had to deal with SOB, Blabbermouth's youngest. Last time he tried to intimidate my Eldest and by doing so he could say farewell to his college fund. The grapevine (his elder siblings) told me that his father, BIL, shouted at him for his stupidity as SOB had been warned not to do anything against any of us. We were still willing to let him use the funds for his college education but he had to stay out of the situation. BIL and Blabbermouth were told that very, very clearly (thanks to LF) and they made sure that it was clear to SOB. Well, SOB wasn't to pleased he got yelled at by his father and by his mother during a visit. He didn't like it that whatever funds his mommy and daddy have/had were now being used for lawyer fees and not quite sure if there would be money left after everything. He didn't like it that he got a firm and resounding 'screw you' ... ahem 'No' from his two eldest siblings after he demanded from them that they pay for his college education. His reasoning was that since they had jobs, they should help him out He didn't like it that both sets of grandparents aren't helping him out either with money. He didn't like it that he doesn't get any support or pity from anyone. He certainly didn't like it that when he asked our aunts and uncles for money and started to whine everything fell on deaf ears and got told that this was a lesson that he needed to learn. Poor SOB, a lot of things happened that he didn't like. And in true Blabbermouth fashion he blamed it on our family. What does the idiot do? He came to our house and like EC (Family stupidity I think) he came by our house. Unfortunately for him, Froufrou and Lefou were waiting for him in the backyard....out of sight.....when he climbed over our fence. NN, NW and us were at some elderly neighbours of ours a couple of houses away and since the lady is a bit scared of dogs we opted to leave them in our yard. The couple has 'adopted' us and since the lady of the house is an amazing cook and baker to say the least we love to frequent the place and help them out with what is needed. We were sitting in their yard, chatting away when we heard the screams and barks. I can't really run so I go and check the footage of our at home cameras. Lo and behold, SOB is crouching on the same table EC was when he had to flee for 100 pounds of protective muscle, fat and sweetness...a.k.a. Froufrou. Now SOB got the honour and pleasure to meet Froufrou and LeFou at the same time. SOB was. not. happy. Blue clothed lads and ladies armed with shiny and not so shiny accessories show up and take him away. We don't think he can be legally charged with anything more than trespassing but beggars can't be choosers. According to our inside informants on that side it's safe to say BIL wasn't happy would be an understatement. SOB was picked up from the station, got tore some brand new holes, got his game consoles, iPad and everything deemed non-essential taken from him by his father, he has limited access to his laptop ( school only) and has been grounded to boot. SOB is sulking a lot according to his siblings. When he started to cry to one of his brothers, he got told that it's his own fault and that he was stupid. He certainly doesn't get any pity from others. Why is SOB so entitled? Blabbermouth coddled him and that had more effect on him than when his father set him straight. We do hope that away from the influence of evil..uuuh his mother it might set him straight. Let's keep our fingers crossed for this. Also, our court date is getting closer. As of now it is scheduled for the end of October if there aren't any delays. I'll update again after that. [**Wonder Woman: The story of how EC got hit by the karma train driven by his now ex wife.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/wl4o88/wonder_woman_the_story_of_how_ec_got_hit_by_the/) submitted August 10, 2022 First of all: As I'm not really familiar to Reddit I just found out I had tons of messages from readers that I have missed. I didn't know that people could also do that. I also try to reply to as many as I can, but to the sheer amount of them and my limited time I'm not always able to respond. My apologies. Some people asked me to update on WW. WW is Wonder Woman, the now ex-wife of EC, is doing. She is doing amazing. She sold the house and the car that was in her name. She moved away to a place she is unwilling to share. She has a PO-box somewhere and we see each other whenever we can. In the beginning she looked so drained and scared but now.....wow! WW looks amazing. The kids are doing great. WW has a job she truly enjoys and her parents help when they can with childcare. Her ex-FIL (father of EC) does get to see the grandchildren but without CoddleMum (CM), her ex-MIL. What I didn't know is that CoddleMum tried to get custody of the children by involving Child Protective services with false accusations. She got a slap on the wrist to which ex-FIL told her not to do anything stupid as he would divorce her. Since they have a prenup she will be left with a lot less (still comfortable) than she has now. CM loves to brag about her "status" so a divorce is not something she wants. It took a while but slowly WW told family members and friends what EC was doing. He never hit her, no physical or sexual abuse. Still, plenty of emotional and financial abuse. I won't share the details. WW asked me not to but she is dealing with it as best she can. Like us, she, her parents, friends and relatives are somewhat afraid of what might happen in case EC gets out of jail. She has a good lawyer so they are, like us, busy with protective measures. This is EC we're dealing with, he is stupid and we are low-key placing bets on how long it will take for him to show up to which place. So, small but a nice update. I'm glad she 's doing better. [**Trial has started, an update on us and CoddleMum just had to prove she's an idiot.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/EntitledPeople/comments/yczios/trial_has_started_an_update_on_us_and_coddlemum/) submitted October 25, 2022 A small update for you all. Hopefully this post will find you all in good health and spirits. First the abbreviations and people explained once more: LF: Lawyer friend Hubby: My husband MIL: My mother in law, Hubby's mother. NN: Nice neighbour NW: Nice neighbour's wife. CoddleMum: EC's mother. The trials have started. I can't say anything about what is discussed until it's all over and done with. I can tell you that both EC and Blabbermouth seemed extremely nervous yet somewhat confident (arrogant even?) when we (hubby and I) saw them the first day. We have not returned since I have work that needs to be done and Hubby has trouble seeing his own family in the stands. Another point is that we have little desire to spent our time in a court room looking at the people who caused so much misery in our lives. Victims statements are in the file and those will be read out when it's time. LF updates us as well as some friends and my parents who apparently decided for themselves they wanted to be present every time or whenever they could. I told them that it isn't necessary, especially since my parents are elderly. But my mother simply flashed me a look that said “enough”. My father isn't man of many words but lets his actions speak for him most of the time. He said 'In our time of need, you and your brother are there for us. Now we are doing what we should do as parents and what we have always tried to do; be there for you both in your time of need. Besides, I want to see what kind of people they are with my own eyes.' My friends basically agreed with my father. I was there for their highs and lows, now it's time to return the favour. My more devilish friends say they are going as much as they can just to see how big of a hole they dig for themselves. I love these people. Hubby is not doing so well. Like I said, he has a hard time dealing with the fact that his own sister and cousin are on trial for harming me and trying to take his children. Anger and sadness are his two main emotions. The children are also quite nervous. We keep them informed on how things are and LF is doing a great job on giving unbiased information on what happens and how court proceedings work. Especially Eldest is one for the details and nuances. He wants to know everything. Apart from nervous, they feel frightened once more. All this time EC and Blabbermouth were locked in a cell, safely away from them. Now they realise that a verdict will be given on the time they will serve IF they will have to serve at all. (We like to keep their release an option, as you never know). Therapist visits have increased to once a week online and once a week in real life. NN and NW have increased their visits with Froufrou and the kids sleep better now that Lefou is with us as well. Nothing works better to soothe their anxiety than some gently giants giving hugs and slobbery kisses that will go into protective mode when needed. Things with MIL have become somewhat better, but she seems to be on a crossroads now that her daughter's trial has started. She has started her 'Oh my poor daughter' spiel again. We don't blame her, and she has kept the whole 'Have pity on her' out of her vocabulary. CoddleMum also made an appearance. She decided in her infinite wisdom that it was a good idea to show up on our doorstep on the day before trial started. We saw her through the doorbell camera. NN saw her and asked if he could help her. Smart man kept her in front of the camera the entire time. She asked in a rather rude manner who he was. When he stated he lived in the neighbourhood and was walking his dog she told him that she was here on an urgent legal matter. She was there to ........drumroll please.....threaten us with legal action if we didn't stop the court proceedings. Her grounds? Her son was provoked by my actions and thus it was self defense... Therefore everything in court didn't need to happen and we should drop the charges. EC should be found not guilty if that couldn't happen anymore and we should tell the judge/jury that. CoddleMum continued that if we didn't she had no choice but to take matters into her own hands and contact our country's child protective services claiming we were hurting our children and file charges against us for defamation. NN can be serious when needed but in the face of this blatant stupidity, entitlement and /or delusion ( you choose) he just laughed. He explained to her that this was not how it works and that she just stated she is trying to blackmail us by lying. But EC has his entitled tendencies from his mother so of course she doubled down and stated that all we did was lie and that I should have done what I had been told. For some reason this woman can't understand that Hubby and I made a joined and unanimous decision on not wanting to be a moneytree/ATM. NN told her to go away, get a therapist and prepare for the NC order that could be coming her way.So you can guess what and who has kept LF extra occupied. On a side note: I know that people will warn us that child protective services can be called by her or someone else out of vindictiveness and spite. We know, don't worry. Joke will be on them though. We asked for their help on how to deal with our children after EC attempted to break into our home and again after what happened to them and me as well. They have also been involved due to the fact that my children were witness/victim of an attempted abduction. We have assessed as parents as well as a standard procedure and we are deemed fit parents (thankfully). They are updated on the things necessary. So that was the update. I will update as things progress.
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"2022-12-16T00:51:24"
Woman Doesn't Want To Invite Step Mother & Step Sister To Her Wedding (AITA Dec 8, '22)
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Originally posted by deleted in r/AmItheAsshole on Dec 8, '22, updates are in the same post later that dayish (undated so i can only go off the original post date). I have changed the initials to fake names for an easier read. [Original post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zgif45/aita_for_not_inviting_my_step_mother_and_her/) AITA for not inviting my step mother and her daughter at my wedding? I (24f) am getting married next summer to my fiancee Joe. My mom died when i was 7. Dad married Kay 4 years later. Kay has a daughter Ella (22) from a previous relationship. Kay and Ella are easily the most entitled, spoil and rude people I've ever met. They never treated me like family, Kay has done everything possible to push me away from the family. I haven't been in any family pictures since i was 14. I was never allowed on any family vacation/activities. Per Kay's request, my dad banned any family members from giving me any gifts for my birthday/holidays. She always hated me. I can't even remember all the times i cried because of the things she would say to me. Ella was the favorite child. Whatever she wanted they would get it for her. Me? I had to work if i wanted something. School supplies? Work for them. My clothes don't fit me anymore? Work for new clothes. Ella liked to break my stuff and i would be grounded because i got mad at her. My last straw was when she cut all pictures i had of mom. Dad found me crying and when i showed him the pictures he told me to let it go. I packed a bag and when to stay with my grandparents. I was 17. Dad never came for me. Never called or texted me either. He reached out to me when i was 20, apologised and said he wanted to reconnect. I told him if he wants that he will have to work very hard to earn a relationship with me since he hasn't been my dad since i was 12 and in 3 years i haven't heard from him at all. He said he'll do anything to be my dad again. Since then I've been LC with him because i don't feel like he's putting enough work into our relationship. I finished college last year and he attended the ceremony and after that we spent the entire weekend together bonding. It was the first time i felt like i had a dad in almost 13 years. I wanted my dad to attend the wedding a guest but i don't want Kay or Ella there. I talked to my dad about it and he was ok with attending as a guest (my grandpa will be walking me down the aisle) but he was really mad when i said i will not invite Kay and Ella. His reasoning is that they are his family so that makes them mine too and he doesn't want them to be excluded. He then said he will not attend if they aren't invited so i said "ok. I guess then you won't attend my wedding and our relationship is over since you're choosing them over me again. It is my wedding and i don't want those disgusting people there. Please don't contact me again. Go be with your perfect little family and forget i exist. You have practice on that. Goodbye" then i blocked his number. Some family members reached out to me and told me i should be the bigger person and maybe the wedding could be what's going to fix our relationship. My grandparents said that it's my big day and i shouldn't have people that make me uncomfortable there. Joe and his parents agree that i shouldn't invite people that hurt me just because they are legally considered family. So AITA? *Verdict: Not the Asshole* Update The situation has blown out of proportions. Kay's family has been blowing up my phone sending me death/rape threats and what's worse is that they have send the same threats to my grandparents. I had a panic attack so bad when my grandma called me and told me so I'm currently that I'm currently in the hospital. Joe's mom is with me and Joe and his dad went to my hometown to bring my grandparents here because I'm honestly scared something may happen to them. I don't know what to do. This has turned into a nightmare. And before you suggest a restraining order, in my country they won't give you one unless they actually hurt you. Joe aunt has offer to have us move in with her across the country and as much as we love our life here we will accept her offer. Edit: a lot of people keep asking why Kay and Ella want to come to my wedding when they clearly hate me. I don't think they want to come. I think it's the fact that i don't want them there that makes them want to come. They're not used to being told no. Edit: I've had some comments saying i should expose their treats on social media and i think I'll do that + tag all of them. I can update after i do that if y'all what me to. Thank you for all the comments and messages! Update: i posted all the texts alongside the back story on FB and Instagram and i tagged them all. Safe to say they aren't happy. Kay and Ella are now cut off by all her family because apparently they didn't know about how they treated me. Kay and Ella have been lying to Kay's family for years pretending to be good step mother/sister and painting me as the bitch that never accepted me and made their lives hell. In addition, my dad is offering me money to delete the post because his friends and boss saw it. Dad's friends refuse to talk to him and his boss wants to see him first thing Monday morning and I'm assuming it is to fire him because dad' job involves public relations and this is bad for their image. Now they are blowing up my phone with apologies and begging me to delete everything. My dad is blaming Kay for all of this and he's considering divorcing her in hope to save his reputation. On another note, we accepted Joe's aunt offer to move in with her and we are thinking to make the move to aunt's city permanent because honestly I'm in love with this place and we may even get better paying jobs here. Anyways, tonight we are going to have a small party to celebrate my dad's life being ruined.
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"2022-12-16T04:57:46"
AITA for dancing half naked in my living room leading to my bf and his family seeing me?
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"2022-12-16T05:05:07"
AITA for wanting to move after being lied to?
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**I am not OOP. OOP is** [u/redditandweep1123](https://www.reddit.com/user/redditandweep1123/). She posted in r/AmItheAsshole. Your daily fun animal fact to cover up spoilers on mobile: today is about sharks. This one was requested by three users: u/cheyennecoxx, u/adventuresinnonsense (who wanted Greenland sharks) and u/loonylny (who wanted frilled sharks.) From Cheyenne: the biggest tooth found from a megalodon was almost 7 inches long, 3x as big as great whites teeth! Greenland sharks can live for FOUR HUNDRED YEARS. Frilled Sharks have a huge liver, filled with low-density oils and hydrocarbons, which makes it almost neutrally buoyant at great depths. ([Source 1](https://www.britannica.com/animal/megalodon), [Source 2](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/fish/facts/greenland-shark#:~:text=The%20Greenland%20shark%20is%20the,s%20presidential%20inauguration%20in%201789), [Source 3](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/60129/11-fascinating-facts-about-frilled-shark)\- sources have pictures of sharks) **Trigger Warning:** >!Lying, manipulation of partner,!< **Mood Spoiler:** >!OOP makes the right choice!< **Original** [Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zgjh08/aita_for_wanting_to_move_after_being_lied_to/)**: December 8, 2022** My fiancé (31m) and I (29f) have been together for 2 years. After getting engaged 6 months ago we decided that I would move from my downtown apartment, to his 300 acres and home (He owns the land and house outright after getting it in an inheritance.) His place is an hour from where I’m from in a small town with nothing (stores, food, etc) around (closest place to get gas is 35 min away.) And my family is an hour and a half away which isn’t a huge deal but it’s just been an adjustment for me. When talking about the future, I explained that I always wanted to raise my children where I grew up (the suburbs). He grew up in a rural area (school system is not great) but in our decision making he expressed that the best thing would be to just stay in his home town because he will never sell his land. After a few odd things have been said by his family I started to question if he even owned this property. I’ve seen his land taxes but when going over his credit and taxes there is nothing at all about his property in it. I asked him a few times about it and he acted so offended that i would even ask! I woke up this morning and couldn’t shake the feeling that something was off. I called the county assessor and found out this is his uncles land and home (uncle is a widow and works out of the state). Basically for the last 6 months we’ve been house sitting. The furniture and everything is his uncles! I confronted him today and honestly I’m considering just leaving but at the VERY LEAST, I want us to move. We have the credit and the savings to buy a home but he won’t budge and keeps saying his uncle will “probably” give him the property. I feel like he manipulated me to move here. Now his best man is calling saying this is an AH move and makes me come off as a gold digger bc I’m “mad he doesn’t have the assets he claimed to have.” So, AITA? ***Relevant Comments*** *In response to a great comment* [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zgjh08/aita_for_wanting_to_move_after_being_lied_to/izhaa8x/?context=3)*:* "Thank you for the thought out response. He has a good savings and we are both debt free. He says his whole family even says he will get this property when it’s time. I, however am not trying to save money to build a home on someone else’s property. I don’t even think that’s possible with permits and everything." *Asked if she has seen his bank account:* "Oh I’m moving with or without him. But yes I have access to his bank account and we have a savings together. I also have gone through his credit report. When we got together (about 6 months in) i asked if i could look at it. He had a medical bill in collections that was like $300 and I made him pay it off. But yes. He lied. And I’ve said the same thing about him getting fired or finding a new love interest etc." *Someone says they should keep separate finances because fiancé has been lying for 6 months:* "No he’s been lying for 2 years! We had a savings together for the wedding. I already transferred most of it into my checking" ***OOP is voted NTA, with many encouraging her to leave*** **Update in** [Comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zgjh08/aita_for_wanting_to_move_after_being_lied_to/izivxzr/?context=3)**: December 9, 2022** So, I know a lot of people said to take a few days and figure out what’s next. I decided last night that I am done. Especially since (like many predicted) I found out he’d been lying about more than just this. I am calling today to cancel our venue (that’s 4500 down the drain). As far as the savings, I have proof that what I took is mine. It wasn’t much but it’s over 15k so I am confident that I can leave and have a good cushion. I have a year left of my masters program and I work a remote job with unlimited PTO. I’m taking the day off to pack and my best friend and her boyfriend who is like a brother to me offered their guest room to me. I’m going to stay there and continue saving while I look for my own property that’s ACTUALLY mine. I hadn’t done hardly any planning for our wedding which I blamed on school and work but now I know it was a subconscious choice. I also had a separate savings that I had started before we ever met in the event that I had to pay for my masters program (luckily my job is paying for that). I think that is what is most infuriating. Together (he also has a separate savings that doesn’t have as much as mine but still) we have PLENTY of money in savings to buy land and build a home AND we are both debt free. But that is no longer an option for me. Last night he was begging to make it work. Started saying he would move wherever I wanted and was apologizing profusely. I made him call his friend on speaker to let him know that he has been living a lie and that I’m leaving him. Thank you all for your responses. I’m meeting with my therapist this morning and my dad will be coming this evening to help me load up all of my things. ***Relevant Comment:*** "I was able to get *some* of the money back because it’s so far from the wedding date (a year from now)"
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"2022-12-16T05:09:30"
AITA for dancing half naked in my living room leading to my bf and his family seeing me?
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"2022-12-16T06:03:57"
Woman's Niece Ruins Her $20K Coat For A Prank Video (AITA Dec 9, '22)
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Originally posted by u/throooowaaaayt in r/AmItheAsshole on Dec 1, '22, updated Dec 9, '22. [Original post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/za73bi/aitaa_for_taking_my_niece_to_court_over_a_coat/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) AITA for taking my niece to court over a coat? I(28F) have a niece (16F). She is my only sister's only child. 2 years ago I married a very wealthy man (34M), and because of the pandemic, last Christmas was my first with my in-laws. My MIL gifted me a coat that is worth more than $20k (I saw her wearing it, asked her where she bought it, and she said that it will be my Christmas gift from her). I didn't know how much it was (I knew it was expensive, but I thought maybe $3k at most). I was visiting my sister last January when my niece saw it, she googled the brand and showed me how much it really was. I won't lie, I didn't wear it after that because I was afraid of ruining it. Last week, I wore it while visiting my sister. While I was putting it back on to leave, I felt something go splat on my back, then my niece started cackling and the smell of paint hit me. I was so pissed off while she was not apologitic at all. Her mom screamed at her and said she was grounded. Then she said she will pay for the dry cleaning. While I was in my car, still in shock BTW, I got an alert that my niece posted a reel, it was of her doing a prank on me, and she said "I'm going to hit my aunt's $20k coat with a paint filled balloon to see how she reacts". I saved it on my phone, sent it to her mom and told her that a week's grounding is not enough. She did not reply, but I saw that my niece took it down (it got less than 5 views by then). The next day I found out my coat can not be saved, so I called my sister and told her that her daughter has to pay it back. Well, we got into an argument and she said that they will not be paying it, and if I wanted a new one, I should get my husband to buy it for me. I think that they should pay for it (they can afford to, IMO they should sell my niece's car and pay me back my money). We did not reach an agreement, so I told her that I will be suing, and reminded her that I have video evidence that her daughter A) did it on purpose for online clout and B) knew exactly how expensive it was. People in my life are not objective at all, I have some calling me an AH, some saying they are the AHs for not buying me a new one, and some so obsessed with the price of the coat that they are calling me an AH for simply owning it and wanting a new one. So AITA? Edit: sorry for not making it clearer, but my coat was bought new, just identical to my MIL's. *Verdict: Not the Asshole* [Update 8 days later](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zgv9gf/update_aita_for_taking_my_niece_to_court_over_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) So here is a quick update, since the situation has been resolved. When my husband got home, I told him what happened and showed him the video. He asked if I spoke with my BIL and I said no, all my conversations were with my sister. He said that he will take care of it. Now, a disclaimer: I understand nothing when it comes to insurance claims, and this is what my husband told me/I understood happened. My husband talked with my BIL, told him exactly what happened and showed him the prank video. Then he told him that the coat was insured, we will be filing a claim and submitting the video, and we might have to file charges for the claim (he assured him that we would be dropping the charges, we do not want to send niece to jail). Then he told him that one of two things might happen: after our insurance pays us, they will come after them. If their insurance pays, their premium will skyrocket. If it doesn't, they might sue them, and might get a lien on their house. My BIL asked if there was a way he could pay us without involving insurance, my husband told him that that was what we wanted at first, but that my sister insisted that they will not be paying us back. Apparently, my BIL was not in the know, and he was very pissed off at what my niece did, and my sister's response. So they came to this solution: my niece's car will be sold, and if it doesn't fetch the whole compensation money, she will have to get a job and pay me the whole check untill it is paid off. Also she is grounded for the rest of the school year. I am thankful for the people who encouraged me to talk with my husband. *Adding this comment and reply for more info:* >Was there an apology? A sincere apology? OOP: None from my sister or niece so far, my BIL was very apologetic though, even called me to say he was sorry, and to assure me that I will be getting my money as soon as possible. *And a few more comments from our OOP:* MIL said that she will get in contact with Loro Piana to get me a similar/same coat (the one I own is no longer on their website, so we are not sure if their physical stores still have it or not). And it might seem silly/vain to some, but that coat symbolizes me becoming a real part of my in-laws' family, so even if I am nervous wearing it, I still would like to have it, if you get what I mean. *Talking about her sister's family:* I mentioned in my last post (in a comment I think), that they are upper middle class, and that they could afford to pay us without going into debt. *Also, OOP clarifies in the comments that the coat was not a fur, it was cashmere.**
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"2022-12-16T06:42:29"
Mum, who never hurt a fly in her life, made the most obnoxious statements to my gf and I don't know how to fix it.
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OP finds out his mother is racist when he introduces her to his new girlfriend
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"2022-12-16T12:09:01"
[External] Guy is backpacking around Europe for 2 weeks, girlfriend is pissed he is unreachable
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*\*\*I am NOT OOP. Original post is a youtube video by user Jay David* *The post consists of a series of several emails, with the boyfriend (OOP) adding context between emails. I have reproduced the text of it below, while the origin is from a* *youtube video* *posted originally in 2009 and again in 2017* ​ *Trigger warnings:* >!infidelity!< ​ **During the Summer of 2007, I had the opportunity to backpack around Europe for 2 weeks. I talked about it often before I left. My girlfriend however, although great in many respects, was not the world's greatest listener. I left on Friday June 1st. Despite even calling her to say goodbye the night before, she never realized I left. When I arrived home 2 weeks later, I had several emails from her, waiting in my inbox. \[**[Link - YouTube](https://youtu.be/GYJT5aCfJrw)**\]** ​ >Friday June 1st *(2007)* 11:31am > >Subject: Maddy Babe! > >\*Smooch\* > >Hey doll, me and the girls are gonna hit up the maddy tonight. I'll call you in a bit, you and the boys should come out too. > >Love ya, > >Em ​ My cell phone was off for the entire trip so that I wouldn't get insane roaming charges in Europe >Friday June 1st 4:40pm > >Subject: Come out come out, hehe > >Hey hun, me again. > >Tried calling your cell a few times today but it kept going right to voicemail. You're not screening me are you? ;) > >Give me a call when you get this. ​ >Saturday June 2nd 9:12am > >Subject: Missed you! (frowny face) > >JDdddddddddd... I missed you last night! There were these two super creepy guys who kept trying to talk to us all night. I let the one guy buy me a drink and as soon as he handed it to me I told him he reminds me of my boyfriend, ha ha ha. > >I tried your cell again but again no answer, having cell problems dear? Anyway, Marla and me are going out for brunch to try and get over our hangovers... tonight, you and me, dinner at your place. > >Call me today. > >Later Baber, Em ​ >Sunday June 3rd 10:33am > >Subject: Uh…. hello...? > >JD, wtf. Why are you not responding to my calls and emails? Where are you?! I waited all night for you to get in touch with me. I'm not happy here babe... call me ASAP!!! ​ Email was empty... >Sunday June 3rd 8:41pm > >Subject: (no subject) ​ Apparently she called one of my friends to find out where I was on the weekend. I have no idea what she's talking about here though. >Tuesday June 5th 5:50pm > >Subject: WTF > >What the fuck is going on?! Why are you avoiding me? You're not answering your cell, you won't return my texts... JD wtf?! > >I know you're around! Your friend Jeremy is such a bullshitter. When he said he hadn't seen you all weekend I could hear you talking in the background! > >I thought you were different fuck nut! > >Last chance... call me tonight with the best excuse of your life or I walk asshole. ​ She left messages at my mom's demanding I call her back. My mom would've called her to tell her I was in Europe except she didn't leave her number and my mom doesn't have it. >Tuesday June 5th 8:11pm > >Subject: Read this asshole! > >I've tried calling you, I've tried calling your friends, your mom. What the fuck did I do? Was it just time? > >Time to dump me? You could at least tell it to my face asshole. > >We're through... don't call me, don't text me, don't bother now. You'll never know what you lost, I was the one, and now I feel sorry for you because you'll never have that again. I feel so sorry for you, ha ha ha. ​ I just got dumped while I was on a different continent than my girlfriend... I've been in Europe for only 5 days And the emails are just beginning... ​ >Friday June 8th 1:07am > >Subject: (no subject) > >I hate you. ​ I would say I've been cheated on... but technically I'm single at this point >Sunday June 10th 3:44am > >Subject: FUUUUUUUUUUCK U > >Hey fuck fcee, > >remmembe r that friend of mine that I was you were jealous of who I said that nuffin ever will happen with well I was crying with him about you and he told me how amazing I was, how he always though so and so i fucked him to show you I'm right! Now who's the stuipd one? I can't get any guy I want and what are you doing just sitting at home crying over how you lost me? Well don't cry for me because you've already lost me asswhole! Ha ha ha ha ha ​ Blank again... >Sunday June 10th 4:01am > >Subject: (no subject) ​ >Tuesday June 12th 2:20pm > >Subject: Read ASAP > >JD, call me, we need to talk. ​ I've been in Europe for 12 days. I am coming home on Saturday. On this day I go shopping in Rome and get a necklace for Em and write a postcard to my grandparents. >Tuesday June 12th 8:11pm > >Subject: Just listen... > >Ok fine, you don't want to call me then just listen. I'm mad and hurt right now. I really felt something between us and now you've gone and thrown it all away and I have no idea why... JD, we were amazing together weren't we? > >We always had fun, and I tried to be so easy going and happy with you. We were the couple that could spend an evening out with our friends or laze about on the couch and either way end it all in fantastic sex and confessions of love. I know that something has happened to change all that, but you have to admit that you still feel something for me. To deny that is to deny your very soul. > >I know you'll call me tonight. We have a lot to discuss. A lot of bad and good. It may not change things and we may still be broken up, but you at least owe me a conversation. A chance. > >Em ​ >Thursday June 14th 7:01 am > >Subject: I tried... > >I tried to reach out to you JD, I really did. But I take back all those nice things I said. I'm glad we're broken up. You're boring as shit to be with. I pretended so many times to like the stupid shows you like, to watch the stupid movies you like, to enjoy spending time with your asinine friends. l've moved on. > >I realize that you are not the right person for me in any way whatsoever. You bring out the worst traits in me and I'm a million times better without you. > >I'm bringing by a bunch of your stuff to your mom's house. So long JD, I'd like to say it was fun but it really wasn't. Believe me when I say that I never want to hear from you again. > >Em ​ When she went by my mom's house to drop off my stuff, she bumped into my mom... my mom told her I was in Europe until Saturday.. >Thursday June 14th 8:21am > >Subject: OPEN FIRST!!! DO NOT READ ANY OTHER EMAILS!!! > >If you love me, you will delete every email l've sent you over the past week without reading it. JD please I am begging you that when you get back you do not read any email but this one. We've all made mistakes while you've been away. I can explain it all to you, call me ASAP. I love you with all my heart and soul! > >Em ​ I read the emails... Em and I are no longer together. I learned two very important lessons from this whole ordeal.. 1. Careful when you date passionate people, because passion swings both ways. Sometimes they'll love you, but other times they'll hate you. And when they hate you... boy do they hate you. 2. When you go to Europe for 2 weeks, leave your fucking phone on. ​ ​ *\*\*Reminder - I am not the original poster*
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OOP and her stepchildren, a tale told in two AITA posts
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"2022-12-16T12:27:05"
My interviewer sent me an email saying my scars are triggering [AskAManager]
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I am not the original poster, this is a repost sub. I will only be posting the reader's question, you can view Allison's response at the link :) Trigger warning: >!religious discrimination, references to self harm, mild harassment!< Mood spoiler: >!satisfying!< [**Original post**](https://www.askamanager.org/2022/11/my-interviewer-sent-me-an-email-saying-my-scars-are-triggering.html) *\[November 1, 2022\]* >I’ve been casually job searching for a few months and had an interview last week. The job was for a logistics specialist at a shipping company. The woman who interviewed me, Marcia, seemed distracted the entire interview, shuffling papers and mumbling her questions. I knew pretty quickly I wouldn’t be taking the position, based both on her description of the job (which was quite different from the online posting) and the general feel in the office. At the end of the interview, I thanked her for her time and consideration and offered my hand to shake. She looked at it for a long moment, then didn’t take it and simply nodded her farewell. I got home, emailed a very polite “thank you, but this position isn’t for me” note, and considered it done. > >Well, today I got an email from Marcia that was beyond strange. At first, I figured I’d just think of it as proof this job wasn’t for me, but now I’m wondering if I should reach out to someone else at the company to alert them. The email read: > >“I realize this is highly irregular, but I felt it would be a grave misstep on my part not to reach out to you. During your interview, I noticed the scars on your arm and wanted you to know that whatever pain you are feeling is temporary. I am certain there are people who love you and would miss you. Please find love for yourself and get the help you clearly need. If I could offer you some additional advice, I fear those scars will be detrimental to you obtaining any meaningful employment. They are highly triggering, and you should seek permanent ways to disguise them. Good luck, and God bless.” Marcia then attached two documents — a brochure for suicide prevention, and one for a church-run support group. > >Not that it matters AT ALL, but the scars are from a burn I got while baking during the pandemic. I was teaching myself to make fruit tarts. Did you know the bottom of tart pans pop up, so you don’t have to break the pastry during removal? My forearm and I learned that the hard way. In my opinion, they don’t particularly look like self-harm scars, more like long scratches that are still healing. Almost like you’d get from a cat. > >I was prepared to just consider this an experience to laugh about and go about my life. But I’m concerned that Marcia might be offering other advice that is equally problematic to other job candidates, or her staff. Should I reach out to someone else at the company? Or just let this be? It’s possible the fact I think this is way over the line and pretty offensive is skewing my opinion of this. Thoughts? [**Update**](https://www.askamanager.org/2022/12/update-my-interviewer-sent-me-an-email-saying-my-scars-are-triggering.html) *\[December 8, 2022\]* >I didn’t expect to have an update on this, but here we are. Happy update season, everyone! > >First, a huge thank you to both yourself and the commenters. I’m a daily reader of your blog, so I figured the advice would be that this is annoying, but ultimately not my problem. > >My interview with Marcia was my first in-person interview, but I’d two prior phone interviews with someone in HR, and then a second interview with the HR director. Both went very well, and so I sent an email to the director with Marcia’s email attached. In short, I said that I had withdrawn my candidacy in no small part due to my interview with Marcia, and that the email she sent after the fact only confirmed that I had made the right decision. I also said that I was not looking for anything specific from them, but that Marcia’s comments toed the line of discriminating based on a disability and religion (thank you for that little tip!) and that I would not want any legal trouble to befall the company in the future. I again thanked them for the opportunity and wished them well in their search. > >Less than an hour later I was on the phone with Bob, who said he oversaw HR and had been forwarded my email. He wanted to speak to me about what happened. I recounted the story, and he seemed genuinely appalled. Bob apologized profusely, asked if I’d like to throw my hat back in the ring for the position. I thanked him but declined, citing that this experience had soured my views on the company. He said he understood, thanked me for bringing everything to their attention, and wished me well. I presumed that would be the end of it and I wouldn’t have much of an update to send. > >I was incorrect. That evening I got a phone call from an unknown number. I didn’t answer and truthfully forgot about it until later that evening when I saw the icon on my phone for a voicemail. It was from Marcia. I listened to it on speakerphone while I washed dishes. According to the voicemail my “baseless threats to sue \[COMPANY\]” had resulted in her termination. She “couldn’t believe she had wasted prayers on me” and “was only trying to help.” Marcia made sure to inform me that I was “totally unsuited” for the position I had applied for, and that a “heathen sinner like me” didn’t deserve gainful employment. I blocked her (but kept the voicemail) and emailed Bob one final time to notify him of the interaction (not that he could do much, but I had to tell someone). He thanked me for the additional info, and that was the last I heard from either of them. > >A few other little bits – > >The tart I was making was for Passover, so the irony in all of this was PALPABLE. > >Some people asked – it was a blood orange custard tart, and it was delicious. > >I actually decided to stay at my current job. I’d mentioned I was only casually searching because I wasn’t necessarily unhappy, but I wasn’t happy either. Well, I had my yearly review and had 1) some of the tasks I disliked removed from my desk, 2) picked up a substantial project to manage on my own, and 3) got a 10% raise, plus a very nice bonus. So yay! > >I debated putting this part in, but in the spirit of the letter overall – there were a couple commenters who seemed to agree with Marcia, that I should cover these scars forever and ever because people might “think things.” Your opinion is of course your own, but I’d encourage you to think about the biases you have here. Scars are scars, they are part of life. People acquire them for all kinds of reasons, in all kinds of places. They aren’t really indicative of anything other than living life. > >Thank you again to Alison and all the wonderful commenters! ​
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"2022-12-16T13:35:03"
OOP abandoned her children while leaving abusive ex. Now she admits she is a terrible mom
NEW UPDATE
I am not OOP. OOP is u/Mustang1307098 . Originally posted in r/TrueOffMyChest . I got permission from OOP to post in this subreddit. TW: Mention of mental abuse, death, attempted suicide, child abandonment, Spousal abuse and child abuse [Original BORU](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zdcq43/oop_abandoned_her_children_while_leaving_abusive/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) [Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z5ty5p/i_abandoned_my_children_while_divorcing_abusive/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) Nov, 27, 2022. Throwaway. Also english is my 3rd language so please ignore grammatical mistakes. Also this is going to be a long post so please overlook it. I will add TLDR at the end. Leo (38M) and I (36F) married when i was 23. My parents weren't in picture since i was 17 for some other reasons. When i was 19, I was addicted to weed. I had severe depression because i was broke and could afford rent. I tried to commit suicide twice. I met Leo when i was 4 months sober. He knows my history well. We dated for only 6 months. Marriage was rushed because of his parents and also i need support financially at that time. One of his parents condition for marriage was for me to sign pre-nup agreement. We have two children (12F and 9M). He was the breadwinner at that time while i took care of house. Also i was pregnant within a month after our marriage. Two years after my daughter Huma was born, i secured a job in communication based industry which pays me almost thrice what he earned at that time. This is the beginning of the financial and emotional abuse i suffered from him. Now that i am also earning, i requested him to share household chores. He refused to do any of it even taking care of our daughter. Thus, my burdens only increased. He started to get jealous and greedy. Sometimes he muttered about how women who earn more than their husband will disrespect them. He started to demand my money. I always refused to give it to him. Then he started to fight me even for very small matters. And every time we fight, he will involve his mom. My MIL will always take sides with him and started lecturing me. Its like two of them gang up on me. If i made a mistake, its my fault. But if he makes a mistake, its also my fault because i made him do the mistake. Well, I conceived again. I took maternity leave when i was 5 months pregnant. Our company only allows 8 months maternity leave so i have to return 3 months after birth. Staying at home only increased his resentment for me. He has mild allergy for some fruits. He ate them frequently so i always had to take care of him while also being pregnant and doing household chores. I endured all of this because if i seek divorce, he will take full custody of both my children given my history of depression, drugs and attempted suicide. I loved my children. 3 months after my son Rob's birth, i returned to office. My application for WFH was denied while he was granted WFH in his company (this happened pre-covid, WFH was allowed only for IT dudes at that time) so now he had more time to spend with children while doing nothing about chores. Around that time, i had considerable money saved, so i put a down payment on a house on my name. Since we had a prenup, he can't force his name on my house, he started to abuse me emotionally. He taught our daughter b word for her to call me. Yes, a 7 year old calling her mother b word. Eventhough i know its not her fault, i started resenting Huma. Eventhough Rob was still a child (4y) he started his fathers footsteps. I started to have anxiety. I suffered severe depressions again. On the suggestion of my supervisor, i started therapy secretly. My therapist was a 50s lady. She was sympathetic to me. Her suggestion was that i feel resentment towards Huma and Rob because they are the only attachment i have with Leo. She told me that its going to be lose-lose situation for me either way if Leo and ours didn't attend family and individual therapy and i can't convince him to attend therapy. My Therapy extended to 20 sessions before it ended. After that, i made the hard decision. I met a divorce lawyer and served Leo divorce papers. He was suprised/shocked but i already packed my things before serving. I moved to my house while he was in phone with my MIL. After a while he called which i didn't answer so he started spam texting me. He called me that i won't get custody of ours and he will never allow even visitation for me given my mental history. I didn't respond to any of that. MIL showed at my house and screamed in front of windows. I didn't call cops but my HOA security took her away. Divorce took 8 months to finalize in 2018. We didn't have a family account. I didn't get custody only supervised visitation which i didn't use until now. I had to pay 15% of my salary for child support for both Huma and Rob which i am happy to do so via court. After divorce, he tried to date again while posting pictures of his new girlfriend only to rub me in the eyes. But that didn't last long because she didn't want to be a caretaker for our children while being disrespected by Huma. As far as i know, he is still single dad with two. MIL called me 6 months after divorce begging me to come back because he now realize how much i have done for him and our family. He had to do chores now and when he asked for her help, she refused and berated him for the manchild he is. He is paying for a caretaker for 3 years now and is costing him more than twice what i pay to him via child support. I met Mohit through a client 2 years ago, when covid restrictions were relaxed. He understood my situation. He has two daughters (7 and 5) from his late wife. They are longing for a mother figure which i am happy to fill. We married 6 months ago and now we're currently expecting (4months). I am writing all of this because we are expecting a girl. Now, i feel like what my therapist said is coming true. I feel like i am replacing my children from previous marriage. It ia 3 years since i last saw them. Both of them write me letter for christmas but i don't write them back. I want to move past it but it is killing me inside. Mohit also suggested i visit them for this christmas but i don't know how am i going to explain myself to them especially Rob since his mother disappeared without a trace for him. I know this isn't the correct sub but i welcome advice regarding my situation. Thank you. TLDR ; I was abused at home, escaped and married Leo had two children got an amazing job realized he is a POS. Filed divorce, abandoned my children and never looked back now remarried and current expecting a girl. I feel like a bad mother and i am replacing my children. Thank you. [Update](https://www.reddit.com/user/Mustang1307098/comments/z700pe/update_i_abandoned_my_children_while_leaving/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) 1 day later, 28, Nov, 2022. [[Original post Link]](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z5ty5p/i_abandoned_my_children_while_divorcing_abusive/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) This is merely an update, i just wanted to clarify some questions. Some informations that i didn't include in the original post and a small update in the end. | Is english really your 3rd language? - Yes, english is my 3rd behind my native language and our national language. | Do you really addicted to weed or its just alcohol? - Yes weed actually, near the place i live, farmers hide weed plants in between other crops. | How are you able to write fluently in english? - English was taught to us throughout our school life. | What is your ethnicity? - I don't feel comfortable revealing my country but i am from south asia. | How cum you're not given custody eventhough you're mentally depressed and attempted suicide many years ago? - Because i attempted suicide again when Huma was 6. | Is your current husband preventing you from reaching your children from previous marriage? - No, in fact it is opposite. He encourages me to meet them but understands my trauma. He meets them atleast once every 2 months. They know him. He is the one brought their letters but he doesn't force me to read them. | How do you pay child support to your ex? - There is an officer in court for this matters. He transfers the cheque from me to money for ex. Fees for this is very small. | What is DV law in your country? - DV as in domestic violence? Ex and his mom didn't assaulted me physically. Its only verbal and emotional abuse. Its hard to prove in court. Even if i had proved that in court, it still wouldn't make any difference according to our civil law. | Why you left your kids with an abuser? - As much as he is a shitty husband to me, he is a great dad to them except the manipulation he pulled against me. He even left his girlfriend because she served him an ultimatum, either her or the children, he chose our children. So i followed my instinct at that moment. Still that doesn't excuse me, i know. | What if he abused the children on your absence? - He won't. He loves them despite abusing me. And also Mohit meets them once every 2 months. | You said you make 3X your ex's salary, why can't you take him to court again for custody rearrangement? - Unfortunately, money doesn't matters in court, since fathers have more rights when it comes to children and given my mental (and at that time physical) health, court didn't do me any favor. | Why didn't you use your visitations? - Because Ex is the supervisor for my visitation. He requested the court to also allow MIL as the supervisor. He did this to spite me, no doubt. | Huma is muslim name, mohit is hindu name and Leo is christian name, what are you trying to convey here? - I didn't know Huma is muslim name, its actually a short version of her actual name from our native language. Yes me and ex are christians and Mohit is hindu turned atheist. I didn't have much attachments to Christianity due to childhood trauma regarding churches. | Why didn't you mention your ex-FIL? - He died 8 months after our (ex and I) marriage before Huma was born. | Is there anyone from your bio-family is in contact with you? - No | Are you still in therapy? - Yes | How much you pay child support to your ex? - In terms of american dollars, about $600. This is based on 15% of my salary in early 2019. This has to be adjusted every 2 years as per court but we didn't change it as i also pay for other related expenses for our children (and twice the amount for a year during covid), which is more than adjusted amount, so ex didn't take me to court. | How much he pays for caretaker? - To caretaker from a professional agency, about $18K per year. This includes doing household chores and stuffs. As per court order, he sent me details of her. She is a 45+ lady. Mohit met her. She seemed nice. | You don't really contribute anything other than child support? - I am so sorry, yes. Mohit and my step daughters did send them letters and some gifts for their birthdays and christmas. They don't force me to involve. | What is the content of their letters? - Just how they are doing. Wanting to meet me. Asking for forgiveness from Huma. | Why didn't you wrote them back? - I had trouble thinking about them, i thought if i had cut contact, it would be best for both of us. | Does Rob remembers you? - Yes, our family portrait is still in hall as ex informed Mohit. So he remembers me. | Does Huma berates you in the letters? - No | Does a 7 year old girl really called you b word? - Yes, not really b word, its equivalent in our language. | Does Huma uses b word in letter? - No | If you already know you're in abusive situation before Rob was born, why did you give birth to him? - I didn't know any better at that time. Its only about money before Rob was born. | Your therapist seems like a good one. Why did you end your sessions? - She moved to Canada for better opportunities before my divorce. | Is your ex and the kids are in therapy? - No, ex lost his job in Covid so i had to pay twice my child support for 13 months. So only kids are in school therapy which i pay for. | So you think, money equates mother's love? - No, i didn't have a choice. Now before the informations, i would like to thank the amazing redditor who actually offered her experience in a similar situation and how she regretted cutting them off and i really appreciate her advice. And the people who chatted with me sharing their experience about being abandoned by their parents and how they felt. I actually cried after reading some of the comments. Mohit also read your comments. Some messages targeted Mohit for causing alienation, so he got awkward but understood why you thought he is the reason. One of the reasons why i posted is because ex and MIL invited me for this christmas to their house. I didn't mention this in original for reasons i dont know. I am conflicted on this. That's why i posted this on this subreddit. As per the advice of my therapist, now Mohit and I decided take steps very slow for the time being. We decided to make videocall to them during christmas. Thank you. OP here. I had a little chat with OOP. Posted here with permission OP: Hey Mustang, what's the motive behind your original post? OOP: Hi. If i am being honest, i wanted someone to assure me there is nothing i could do or i am not a bad mom or some consolation. That's why i posted here. But comments here are bit harsh and cruel but truth indeed. Some people exchanged their pwn experience in my situation amd my children's situation to me. They offered their valuable advice. Thank You OP here. I think this situation is sad for both OOP and her children. OOP said that she will read comments here and welcomes any valuable advices. [New Update](https://www.reddit.com/user/Mustang1307098/comments/zg3i8o/update_2_i_abandoned_my_children_while_leaving/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share) 08, Dec, 2022 This is a long post because i answered lots of questions. I know my posts were shared in BORU. Unfortunately there are lot of redditors using abusive language in my chat. If you're reading this, please don't message me any horrible things. I am already dealing with lot of things right now. Just comment here please don't message me. I just want to get others perspective here. And to the one redditor who found my main account, i don't know how you found it but its definitely scary. I thought i am being anonymous here. I don't have interest in entertaining your questions in my main so i blocked you there but not here. That account is only for my work related doubts and news. Please understand. Also there is a surge of questions which i wanted to answer. A small update in the end. | The scary part about your story is I met people like you IRL. People who will sacrifice their own children for their benefit. A mother is someone who protects her children even if it costs her own life. If you know you can't do that, why do you pop new one out now? - My view is different from yours. I did a mistake, a horrible thing but i won't do it again. | Why can't you mention Mohit as husband or DH instead of his name? - I call him by his name. I tried typing with hubby but it felt weird. | Your 15% salary in 2019 is $600. That's a lot of money for a south asian. - Yes. If i am being honest, my salary was listed as 20% highest earning people's income in our country. I work for a foreign company. | How many hours you work per week? - 50 to 65+ hours depending on clients and project. | 8 months maternity leave? Are you kidding me? I dont think any South asian country will give you that kind of leave? - I work in private sector. My company is a communication based foreign company. As per company rules, maternity leave is 8 months. | Is your ex-FIL is abusive to you too? - No, i dont know him that much. He died with 1 year of our (ex and I) marriage. | If he is alive when you are abused, would he stopped the abuse? - I don't know it clearly eventhough i know he is nice person. I haven't thought about that anyway. | Is there any sex related issues between you and your ex? - No | How far the house you bought is from Leo's house? - About 6 Kms | How did Mohit's late wife died? - Natural disaster. | What about Mohit's family? - He (37) , MIL (62) , FIL (~late 60s, bedridden, has Alzheimer's) and SIL (27) working in hospital. We are looking for groom for SIL. | What is your relationship with your current in laws? - I would say better than good. We had our up and downs. But they know about me and are very supportive. | Why do you want to move past your bio children? - I thought maybe its better for them to not have a mother than a mother who hates and resents them. I thought maybe Leo may marry again and the kids can have a mother figure in their lives again. | Why didn't Leo remarry? - I don't know full reason but financial burdens are part of reasons for him not remarrying. I think More than 50% of his income goes for the homecare. When we are still married, he would go to vacations for 4 weeks a year. He did this when i was 8 months pregnant with Rob. He stopped that after homecare. | How do you know things that happened behind your back like Leo's new gf giving him ultimatum or EX-MIL berating him for the 'manchild' he is? - I had a phone talk with ex-MIL, 6 months after our divorce. She told all this to me. | How do you know he is not abusing them? after all an abuser gonna abuse anyway. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when? - I am sorry, i am not defending myself but he didn't abuse them. After our divorce which is a taboo in our culture, he was afraid of losing them too. Maybe he thought i am not capable of divorcing him and standing alone at that time with no one to support. Me moving on only made him afraid more. So he became very protective of them. Even Mohit on his visit with children told me how they love their father. I don't know his mentality at all. | Huma is practically a teen now. Does she knows the reason about their parents divorce? - She doesn't know that. Only her mom and dad fought and divorced. She asked Mohit about that. He told her the same. | Your ex seems a misogynistic person. How did you leave your daughter to his care? - As far as i know, he isn't misogynistic. He is just greedy towards money. All the abuse i suffered from him is based on the fact that i didn't give him money. | Why do you wanted suddenly for ex to share household chores when you got a job? - Our early arrangement is that he will bring money and i will take care of the house. But that changed when i got work. He was under the impression that i will give him my money. Maybe if i gave him my money, he wouldn't have abused me and may instead helped me with household chores. | Did you ex ever apologize beyond acknowledging that it was hard work raising kids? Have they addressed the abuse at all? - No | Will you tell your children about their father's abuse towards you when they grow up? - No, they love their father. I don't want them to think the one who loved and cared about them is the reason they didn't have a mother in their life anymore. They deserve atleast one functional parent. | Does Huma apologized for calling you b word? - Not particularly that, i don't think she remembers it. She just apologized generally if she made any mistake. | Does your bio family knows about you now or your situation? - I think no, but i really don't know whether they know or don't know. | You said you had no contact with bio-family. So eventhough you have no one if you divorce Leo, you still divorced him. I am sorry if this seems rude, i am also from S.Asia. I just want to know. How come you have that much courage to divorce him? - It may not appears big to you but i read a news article back in 2018. Its about a woman in north part of our country committing suicide because of abusive husband. She couldn't escape because of her children and society. She felt trapped. Only way out for her is to take her own life. I feels like it opened my eye. After all, we got only one life. | Mohit only wants you to have 50/50 custody of your children so you can stop paying child support. He only wants your money - Between the two of us, he earns atleast 5 times what i earn. He is one of the main client in the company i work for. I am living in his house. So he is definitely not into my money. | Mohit has better relationship with your children aka his step children than you. - He is a voluntary social worker for some cause i didn't want to reveal here. He works with children. He loves them and understands them better. | How come your ex allows Your current husband to visit your children? In what south asian culture this is possible? - Ex and Mohit didn't met directly. They had phone calls only. When mohit visits, children are in a doctors home along with EX-MIL. Mohit didn't have a problem with her eventhough there are some small issues. | Then why can't ex allow you to visit children without his supervision? - Mohit already asked him about that. His reply was given my mental history and court order, he can't trust me with his children without his supervision. | If EX-MIL is the only supervisor of your visit, would you visit your children? - Maybe yes, she apologized to me after divorce. Eventhough i am not fully comfortable with her, i can visit my children if she is the only supervisor. | Why can't you take him to court to change custodial agreement or atleast visitations on grounds of neutral social worker? After all, you have more money. - Money doesn't matter in court. Custody agreement will be given on the account that i am mentally fit which i am not as per my therapist. Visitation supervisor also can't be changed as ex has more qualities to be the supervisor. | Do you realize that there is a chance your kids want nothing to do with you and cut you off from their life. - My old therapist already explained to me the consequences of my actions before divorce. If they want to move on from me, i wont disturb them. | What south asian school has therapist in their campus? - Lot of expensive private schools here do. The school my children studying is school with annual fees more than $2800. Compulsory therapist fees includes ~$200. | Have you met your children's therapist? - No | Prenups aren't valid in any south asian country. - I wrote the word prenup for better understanding. The word is 'Marriage agreement'. It is also invalid but there are certain cases in our court where the judge ordered these marriage agreements to be valid since both parties are adults and consented to it before marriage. Our agreement is also valid since it was written with an advocate (as witness, i hope you understand what i am trying to say here) | HOA isn't legal in any south asian country. Or atleast i haven't heard of it. - There is a management for our area. It gives security for all the home owners here. We have to pay fees yearly for it. I named it HOA here. This kind of managements are common here in major cities. Just different names and less power than US HOA like they can't order us to paint different colours for our houses because they didn't like it. | How long is your new therapist treating you? - about 13 months | How experienced is your old therapist? - She has 25+ years of experience. My supervisor recommended her to me. She published lots of articles related to mental health issues since 97. | How experienced is your new therapist? - She has 7 years experience. | Do you provide college fund for your bio kids? - College isn't expensive here like in US but it depends on courses. If ex can't manage, i will give them money. | How is your relationship with your stepkids? - Amazing to say in one word. They love me and i love them. | Is Prenatal sex discernment legal in your country? - No, but doctors here will tell you the gender if they are sure you won't kill it if its not what you're expecting. I think you will understand. My doctor knows mohit well. So no problem here. But if you still feel what we did was illegal, I am sorry. | Did your step-kids met your bio-kids? - Yes only one time. Mohit wanted to send step kids to the same school as bio kids but ex didn't want it. His reasons were justifiable so Mohit didn't push it. | When EX-MIL called you after divorce, did she wanted you to come back or its just about custody of children. - She wanted me to come back. | Then maybe ex would've changed, why didn't you gave him a chance then? - I felt happy when i left him and our children. I didn't want to risk my mental as well as physical health to give him a chance. | Is your ex manipulating children to write letters to you? - He told them to write letters to me but i don't think that's manipulation. Maybe he realized kids need mother in their life. | Since when did your kids writing letters to you? - From a year after divorce. | Did your children wrote letters to you for this christmas? - It will arrive the day after christmas i hope. | You're living in your husband's house. What happened to your house? - I rented it | If Mohit turned out to be abusive, will you abandon your step children and the one inside you too? - Mohit isn't/won't be abusive. But even if he turned out to be, i will not abandon my girl let alone my step kids who i love like my own kids. I did a horrible mistake. I won't do it again. | Did you decided the name for the one inside you? - No. I have some names in my mind. Mohit has some names in his mind. My MIL and SIL had suggested some names. I don't know what are we gonna name her. | Did Huma's full name was in your suggestion for the one upcoming? - No. | You really admitted you only wanted validation. - At my first post. But now i am not Onto the update, My doctor advised me to take things slow and not to add stress when i am still pregnant. I had a panic attack 3 weeks ago so i am going to follow his advice. So no video call, only letters for both Huma and Rob for christmas. If there is any improvement in two weeks maybe a phone call on the day of christmas. I am trying words for what to write to them. Therapist gave some solid advices. But i also want perspectives from people who abandoned by their loved ones. So Advices are welcome. I know people are invested in my story but i can't give you the drama you want. If all goes well, this christmas is going to be best day in my life. So unless anything significant happens, i won't update again before christmas. I will update after New year. Also my stepkids want to celebrate christmas, its first time for them. So we planned for a big celebration in our house. Last time i celebrated christmas wholeheartedly was like 5 years ago, so i feel like i am excited too. So right now, i have to focus on two important things that i ignored for some years. Advance Happy Christmas to you all. Thank you OP here. I had a little chat with OOP yesterday. Posted here with permission. OP: Hi Mustang, care to update us about your plan for christmas since its been 6 days from your latest update. Letter or Phone call? OOP: I already wrote letters for both Huma and Rob. I planned to gift Huma a PS4 as Mohit told me she loves gaming. As for Rob, we are still discussing. I still don't know about the phonecall. I don't think i will be mentally ready before christmas. Sorry. Again OP here. On behalf of OOP, i request you guys to stop messaging her. And please stop assuming her ethnicity. She clearly doesn't want to reveal that. Thank You
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"2022-12-16T14:46:06"
OP: "My (30m) Wife (28f) thinks I have a low sex drive. Truth is..."
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**I am NOT the OP, this is a repost.** Acronyms: HLM = High libido male, LLF = Low libido female, DB = dead bedroom. ​ [**Original**](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z2vz0r/my_30m_wife_28f_thinks_i_have_a_low_sex_drive/) **on** r/TrueOffMyChest, Nov 23rd 2022 **My (30m) Wife (28f) thinks I have a low sex drive. truth is...** So my wife is indeed a beautiful lady. I’m not interested in cheating or going behind her back. She just thinks we don’t have a lot of sex because I have a low sex drive. Truth is, we don’t have a lot of sex because we have it the way she wants it, and little to never how I want it. I’m all for using vibrators and whatever else to get her off as many times as possible. I’m a HUGE fan of oral and can eat front and back for days but she scarcely returns the favor. She once said “if you shower before bed Ill do it.” So for a week straight I made sure I was showered and clean because let’s be real who wants to go down on a smelly person, totally reasonable request. So I would do my oral on her and indicate I’d like to be on the receiving end… to no avail.. I have a high sex drive but she has become a selfish lover and coming from a man, it’s pretty comical to say this. I have no words at this point and I’m pretty close to just giving up sex all together. EDIT 1 Yes I have talked to my wife PLENTY of times about this issue. A lot of you guys said the same thing which hey, emotional maturity is fucking impossible to find but yes. I am wide open with my concerns in more than just the sexual aspect in our Marriage. ​ **Comments:** >*I've been there before. My daughters mother would take everything she could get many times a night and she wouldn't even touch my dick.* > >*It's great for your self confidence.* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z2vz0r/comment/ixip791/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) > >>**OOP's response:** >> >>*Definitely haven’t felt like Dwayne the rock Johnson in quite some time haha* ​ >**A commenter references a** [**previous post**](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/ywwrdb/feeling_unappreciated_and_honestly_just_low_lately/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) **from OOP where he talks about feeling unappreciated:** > >*I’ve read your other posts and I’m sorry love, but it’s really common for children that were raised by narcissistic parents to go on to marry narcissistic spouses* 😕*.* > >*Your wife gaslights you and basically uses you as her bank and maid. She is a stay at home mum, it is her role to take care of the children and cook, yet you’re doing that. You’re also not being pleased sexually.* > >*You’re very nice and I fear that you know that she is taking advantage of you and using your past traumas against you. Please be careful and get some therapy for yourself. You’re still young and there is always a solution. Your children need you to be happy and healthy.* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z2vz0r/comment/ixjxkat/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ​ >*Guess I'll state the obvious in that you seem to need relationship counseling. She's unwilling to give a damn about getting you off. That's quite troubling even in a vaccuum.* > >*Does she care about you at all? How does she treat you outside of your sex life?* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z2vz0r/comment/ixilt46/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) > >>**OOP's response:** >> >>*I have a separate post that explains why I’m feeling low lately. You can kinda get the whole story from there* > >>>**Follow up comment:** >>> >>>*I read your other post and there seems to be something fundamentally wrong with your relationship.* >>> >>>*If it can't be resolved with counseling it's probably time to consider divorce. It will be awful but you shouldn't be stuck in a horrible relationship. Life is too short. Your wife's looks will fade and you'll have wasted the best years of your life with nothing but anger and resentment. You deserve better.* > >>>>**OOP's response:** >>>> >>>>*Many deserve better than what they have. I, however, try to make the best of everything. I work hard in life. I play hard as well. I’m normally a happy go lucky dude.* ​ ​ [**2nd Post**](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z4ie1k/my_30m_wife_28f_thinks_i_have_a_low_sex_drive/) **on** r/TrueOffMyChest, Nov 25th 2022. **My (30m) wife (28f) thinks I have a low sex drive… truth is… UPDATE** First things first. Thank you all so much for the love and support and advice. I didn’t expect that post to get so much traction. Apparently it even made its way to TikTok.. Now if you read the last post, and maybe a few others of mine. The TLDR is my wife is a lazy and selfish lover.. and at this point, person. I have been in therapy myself and I’ve tried couples counseling as well. I have brought my concerns to her in a healthy calm manner, and safe to say, I’ve tried pretty much everything. As most of us know, yesterday was thanksgiving… Here’s an update. I’m made my signature dish because it was demanded by my in laws that I make it. We go over for food and such. After we eat I took a little snooze on the couch. My wife woke me up and said “hey, I need you to watch the kids. Im gonna have some wine.” I mean alright no problem. So while she’s drinking and playing games with her family, I got put on kid duty for all the kids (I’m also the fun uncle so like I didn’t really care.) I did care as my wife got progressively more and more intoxicated. When we left I literally had to throw her over my shoulder while carrying both kiddos to the car. We got home, I made her drink water, got the kids around and put them to sleep and helped my wife sober up a bit. We watched some tv and surprisingly, she cuddled into me and thanked me for taking care of her and the kids and she didn’t mean to have so much wine. Alright, I’m always pleased with self awareness. Literally just that little bit washed away any irritation I had. I carried her to bed and laid her down. Got her some water and ibuprofen (and a bucket just in case) got her set up in bed. About two hours later I heard my son crying so I went to get him. He had some nightmares so I got him settled down, put him back to bed. Few hours later my daughter woke up because she peed through her pull up. I got her back to sleep. When I got back into bed my wife was awake. I asked what was wrong? Her response was “I was drunk… and you didn’t even try to do anything to me?” No because even if we are married I’m not going to take advantage of you. That’s pathetic… I laid back down and she said “if you want we can have sex before you go back to bed?” Mind you this was 430, and I was fucking beat and my mental fortitude was gone and this is, In my personal opinion, not the correct way to respond, said “If you want to have sex, you’re gonna have to give me head first. I’m not hard and I’m not doing anything to get it going.” She goes “well I guess Nevermind.” Couple hours later the alarm went off, I got up. Got the kids around and my coffee. She comes out a few hours later dressed and says “why didn’t you wake me up? You were up like 4 times with the kids. I was gonna let you sleep.” Nah it’s okay. You didn’t even budge at my alarm this morning so I figured you still needed to sleep. Why are you dressed? She said the girls want to go Black Friday shopping and was wondering if I wanted to go. Nah. I’ll hang out with the kids and watch movies. They are gonna have a rough day. And that brings me to now. Having a cuddly movie day with my kids who are tired. She’s out shopping. And I need another cup of coffee. TLDR my wife lazily tried to bang me and was turned down. Now I have coffee. EDIT; I posted the third update but it was marked as spam. Currently trying to get that resolved for you guys. Secondly. I posted in the DB Reddit to try and get some tips to help boost her libido, and someone said she may just be using my love of giving oral as masturbation… turns out, dude was spot on. After we had a really good talk Saturday, I’m actually really hurt by her never saying anything. I genuinely at a loss for words. **Comments:** >*You are really just staying for the kids, aren’t you?* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z4ie1k/comment/ixrwczh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) > >>**OOP's response:** >> >>*They are my world and I would happily fall on a thousand swords for them.* > >>>**Another commenter replies:** >>> >>>*I applaud your dedication, but eventually this dynamic will have a lasting, profound effect on those very same children you'd do anything for. You're modeling behavior for them. They're watching you and learning how relationships work, and it will influence theirs in the future. Would you want your children to stay in a situation like this?* ​ ​ [**3rd Post**](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/comments/z6xoy9/30hlm_seeking_advice_about_a_28llf/) **on** r/DeadBedrooms **Nov 28th 2022.** **30HLM seeking advice about a 28LLF** Hey all. I (30HLM) am looking to reignite my bedroom with my wife (28LLF.) some quick background. I am a giver. I love giving oral so I do go down on her frequently (and I am being serious here, it’s almost daily.) I like to give her one or two before we move on. The issue is, our sex life slowly declined until about mid June.. since then we have had sex a hand full of times, but I still go down on her almost daily. I have no problems getting her to the peak, if you catch my drift, but as soon as she gets one. She just kinda rolls over and doesn’t want to continue. Now, I don’t watch porn (recovered addict and sticking to it) and I don’t masturbate. Any advice to help get her to bring her libido back up to my level? Edit; have, in the short time I’ve posted this, discovered she has been using my love of giving oral as a means of masturbation and also thought that since I loved it so much that it got me off too. 🙃 ​ **Comments:** >*You...DB.* > >*Her....vibrant sex life.* > >*Hmmmm.* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/comments/z6xoy9/comment/iy458bi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ​ >*I don’t understand. You go down on your wife almost daily and give her 1-2 orgasms, but you’ve not had sex in nearly 6 months? Does she return the favour? Have you thought about getting her close with oral and then moving to PIV?* > >*Does she genuinely enjoy you going down on her, or is it something she lets you do because she knows you like it? She clearly has a fairly good libido if you’re being intimate multiple times a week, but it sounds like you need to have a conversation about varying it up and finding out what she actually likes.* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/comments/z6xoy9/comment/iy3nn8c/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) > >>**OOP's response:** >> >>*So basically, she gets off then rolls over. I had plenty of conversations about this with her. Im not trying to paint her with a negative brush if that makes sense? I had this conversation with a close male friend of mine a few months ago and he laughed and told me I was pretty much the girl. She does enjoy it. There’s always signs of O amongst other things. She’s just become… lazy. Doesn’t return the oral, and we don’t switch to full on sex and she refuses to really do much else.* > >>>**Follow up comment:** >>> >>>That’s not cool. She’s basically using you to masturbate without having to engage in truly intimate two-way sex. >>> >>>I get that you enjoy going down on her and you’d be reluctant to lose that since it’s the only sexual contact you have now, but I do think you need to redress the balance. Next time you go down on her, don’t go all the way. Suggest a 69, or ask her to sit on your face and give you a handjob or, once she’s getting close from oral, stop and tell her how much you want to fuck her. >>> >>>If she refuses to give you any attention and just wants you to pleasure her, you need to have a serious conversation. Because at the moment you’re not a lover to her, you’re a sex toy. Good luck. ​ ​ [**4th Post**](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z8cik5/my_30m_wife_28f_thinks_i_have_a_low_sex_drive_the/) **on** r/TrueOffMyChest **Nov 30th 2022.** **My (30m) Wife (28f) thinks I have a low sex drive. The Trilogy (repost)** Repost since the original was marked as spam. Has since been resolved. So a lot has happened since Thanksgiving/ Black Friday. After we put the kids down on Saturday, I sat my wife down and told her for the first time she’s going to listen to what I have to say and she will not interrupt or say anything back. I explained everything.. how I’m feeling so awful because of her lack of interest. Because of her laziness and how it’s not okay to just simply not exist because I come home from work. I explained it’s not okay anymore to be a selfish lover because I am too good of a man/husband to feel unworthy of love. The rest of the night she didn’t really say much. The following morning, I woke up suddenly to my kids playing in the living room. I instinctively ran out to see what they were into and how big of a mess there was. To my surprise my wife was playing with them. She said she was sorry that she woke me up. She didn’t realize how her lack of attention and interest was hurting me so much. So far so good. Monday rolls around. I posted in the dead bedroom Reddit to maybe get some advice from some LL people on how to get my wife more interested in having sex. Someone suggested maybe she was being a pain in the ass and using my love of giving daily oral as a form of masturbation. I didn’t even think of this possibility until they said something. So I asked bluntly if that’s what she was doing. She responded with yes. That’s what she was doing but figured since I loved it so much that it was okay. That me going down on her multiple times was all I wanted. Nope. I didn’t say much after that and kinda just stared off into space thinking about how I was nothing better than a sex toy to her. I woke up early this morning feeling just horny as all hell so I decided I was going to wake her up with my tongue and give it one last Hail Mary attempt. I got into position and… nope.. she’s too tired. At this point. Seriously. I am really stunned. Help me. Edit - So a lot of you guys have said to stop giving. So last night and this morning I kept to myself. When she rolled out of bed, she was pretty much pissed immediately. She kicked a pile of small boxes that I had neatly put together to take outside for garbage day. She was tossing things that were in her way. Had a short temper towards our kids (this did not fly and you best believe papa bear came out.) and was saying nasty things as I was heading at the door because I didn’t make her her coffee this morning. Edit 2/ update- She cancelled our marital counseling session without telling me so we didn’t go last night. She felt it was a waste of time when there’s “nothing wrong” with our marriage. Took that time to deep clean my kitchen out of anger after my kids went down because I genuinely did not have it in me to even look at her. I have refused to give her any sexual attention and I can see the frustration on her face about it. I’m still holding strong but it really sucks when that was literally the only attention that our marriage had anymore. Pretty much a single dad at this point. ​ **Comments:** >*Just stop giving anything at this point. She doesn't deserve your effort. You need couples counselling at the very least and if she refuses that, time for a separation.* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z8cik5/comment/iybixq3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ​ >*Oh man, I'm sorry. I thought things were heading in the right direction. Much as it sounds boring and dead-horsey, have you considered counseling? Maybe with a specialist in sex therapy?* > >*Edit: I mean a LEGIT, licensed, professional counselor specializing in sex therapy, not the other sort.* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/z8cik5/comment/iybeo3i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) > >>**OOP's response:** >> >>*Me too, I know a lot of people we’re following and hoping. I was so much hope on Sunday and then it all just went to fucking shit* ​ ​ [**5th Post**](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/comments/zciqui/30m_db_with_28f_i_think_i_have_a_fix/) **on** r/DeadBedrooms**, Dec 4th 2022.** **30m DB with 28f. I think I have a fix.** So this is a half way update/what I plan to do in a final attempt to fix this. Right now, we have had a DB for years. Whenever we did have sex it was pretty much on her (LLF) terms. Me being HL, for the past 6 months, I have been going down in her almost daily to try and get her libido to match mine. It has not been working so the past few days I have stopped giving. It’s been about 5 days since I done it and my wife is acting short tempered and cranky but has not initiated anything. Last night we got into a big disagreement about some stuff and divorce was put on the table not just because of our DB but because of a plethora of other issues. I have also decided that I am going to up my fitness. I’ve been doing boxing to enjoy the full body work out but now, I am going to do my best to become a certified DILF. I know working out typically can increase libido so I may need some more support from all you wonderful people. If I can get super fit and she still doesn’t find me attractive enough to actually initiate.. then I have no clue what else to do. ​ **Comments:** >*Good luck my man but do it for yourself, not someone else.* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/comments/zciqui/comment/iywozuy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ​ >*From your other post: "She cancelled our marital counseling session without telling me so we didn’t go last night. She felt it was a waste of time when there’s “nothing wrong” with our marriage."* > >*Yeah. She's done. Time to make an exit plan and take care of yourself.* [\[link\]](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadBedrooms/comments/zciqui/comment/iyx7i2e/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) ​ ​ # Friendly reminder that I am NOT the OP, this is a repost.
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"2022-12-16T15:13:53"
[NSFW] OOP's friends in relationship invite them to join, become 'throuple'
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"2022-12-16T15:17:36"
OOP -Mum, who never hurt a fly in her life, made the most obnoxious statements to my gf and I don't know how to fix it.
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I'm not the OOP. This was posted by a now deleted user in r/trueoffmychest. **Trigger Warning** - >!racism, colourism!< **Mood Spoiler** - >!good for his ex!< [Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zdby53/mum_who_never_hurt_a_fly_in_her_life_made_the/) (6 Dec 22) **Mum, Who never hurt a fly in her life made the most obnoxious statements to my gf and I don't know how to fix it.** trigger: racism My gf and I have been dating for 2 months. I love her even if it's too early yet to tell her. I took her to meet my parents onnSaturday. I'm 1/2 white (mum)and 1/2 black. My gf is black. We come from a country where africans are a very very small minority. Mum knew that my gf is black, and she made a comment about her finding it odd (my 2 older brothers are married to white women). I didn't set much store by that comment. After dinner, mum started talking to my gf about where her parents came from etc. She then with a big smile said that she was actually surprised that I'm dating a POC and that she was somehow disappointed. My gf was surprised and asked what she meant and mum said yeah well I thought he would prefer a white woman just like (my father and brothers). My gf told her that it was probably harder to meet let alone fall in love with a POC in a country where the majority are white, mathematically the odds are over 95% that you meet a white partner and she was smiling nervously and answering calmly but mum was getting more agitated by the minute. She stated that my gf was so wrong and that men of all colors preferred white women. Gf asked her why there are still black people then and mum told her that because not all can be with a white women. *-Take footballers, and all rich famous actors of color. The English and French football teams for ex, THEY ARE ALL MARRIED TO WHITE WOMEN, and before you talk about odds, africans are not small minorities in these countries so you can't blame it on that. They are rich and famous so they can be with anyone they want and they almost exclusively choose white women.* My gf just fell silent after that, my father was laughing, brothers and their wives smiled nervously and I was asking mum to stop, almost shouting, throughout the conversation with mum just raising her voice louder. When she finally shut up the atmosphere was awkward. Mum excused herself to unload the dishwasher then she came and half apologized. She said she felt like she was being attacked and that even what she said is brutal, that was reality and reality is brutal. She started crying. My gf did't say anything and she didn't look at anyone. I told her we should leave and she agreed. we didn't stay for desert. My gf has been very distant and in her own thoughts. She didn't mention the dinner and avoided the subject when I asked her that we needed to talk about what happened. I apologized but I don't know if she understands how shocked, disgusted and angry I'm because she has avoided this subject. She is at her place now and she hasn't initiated texting and her answers to my texts are short and cold. I feel sick. I totally understand my gf and her reluctance to act fine with me and I regret not shutting up my mum but I was shocked and didn't expect that quick escalation. Mum has always been amazing and kind. Loving and never prejudiced. I don't know what happened there. Where did that come from. And the rest off us who just sat there and did nothing. I'm so confused. How could mum have spent almost 35 years with a man when she thinks so little of him and his heritage? And why isn't he more disturbed by it? I feel sick [Update](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zgc00s/we_broke_up_update/) (9 Dec 22) **We broke up (update)** Or she broke up with me and I totally understand her. The good thing is that she believes me and that I was shocked. She doesn't blame me for "doing nothing" either since everything happened so fast. She wasn't as shocked as I was though and I don't know how to feel about it. It just made me sad. Now for the break up, I told her that I loved her even with the risk that she would think it was some sort of damage control. She said she knew that and that she felt the same but that she can't see a future with us. She asked me how this would work. She knows how my parents think now and she doesn't believe that people really change, they can adjust and be polite but that wasn't good enough for her. She is not interested to educate nor set good example either. Dealing with them in her life, knowing they are just being cordial with her and eventually our children, yeh that wasn't enough. *"Life is already hard enough, I want my home to be my safe space".* Next solution is me going NC with my family, and she said that she couldn't do that to me and live with the guilt. So we are over. I understand. I miss her terribly. She is the most beautiful woman I've ever met both inside and out and people like her don't grow on trees. Many asked about my family and if I have spoken to them yet, I haven't. I don't know if there is anything they can say right now to make me feel better. I know that mum is telling everyone that she "regrets" what happened but does she regret saying or thinking that? Also she keeps saying that she felt "attacked" which is so unfair since my gf (well ex) was very polite and calm. I don't know about my future either. I feel a bit lost and confused. I don't want this experience leaving me bitter. I come from a predominantly white European country I don't want want to question if my next gf think herself superior to me. I don't view my parent's love like I did before. It isn't "goals" anymore. No matter how long they have been married and how much they love each other still, it isn't "goals" anymore. **Reminder - I'm not the OOP** >!I'm proud of his ex for not being an educational tool for racists and i mean idk what his mother was thinking having mixed babies? What if she had a daughter? If by any chance any of her granddaughters inherit the darker genes will she tell her that she's inferior and no man would want her?!< Bit of rant. Sorry!
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"2022-12-16T15:36:45"
My mom wants to have a talk after kicking me out two years ago in favor of her boyfriend who bullied me in high school.
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I'm not the OOP. This was posted by u/Dear_Fee7205 in r/relationship_advice. Trigger Warning - >!bullying, physical violence!< [Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/zg560x/my_mom_wants_to_have_a_talk_after_kicking_me_out/) (8 Dec 22) **My mom wants to have a talk after kicking me out two years ago in favor of her boyfriend who bullied me in high school.** My dad passed away when I was only one. It's been me and my mom ever since. As you can guess, my mom and I were very close. When I was a sophomore in high school, my mom got a part-time job as a gym teacher at my school. I supported her when she asked if I would be comfortable with it. It was extremely uncomfortable when guys would make comments on my mom's appearance. It also gave ammo to Brad who bullied me in high school. He would make inappropriate comments about her towards me. Brad was a year ahead of me, so I thought I was finally rid of him after he graduated. I was wrong. When I became a senior. My mom started going out very often. Initially, I was happy for her because I wanted her to find someone nice. However, it came to a point where barely got any time together. To be frank I thought she was avoiding me. This was because whenever I tried to make plans with her, she had already made plans before. I sort of kept it to myself because I didn't want to come off needy. I didn't complain when she missed my birthday because she was out all night. When she tried to apologize the next day, I told her it was ok. After six months of this behavior, I decided to take action. I asked my mom if we could have dinner together, just the two of us. She said she was too busy. I got fed up and told her to stop ignoring me. She said that she wasn't ignoring me but that she had a life to live. That really hurt me a lot. Out of anger, I started to ignore her for a few days. After those days passed, she finally apologized to me. However, she said she needed to talk to me about something important. She wanted to introduce me to her boyfriend at dinner. She didn't sound excited about it. It sounds like she almost dreaded it. When the door rang, my mom opened it up and introduced the guy to me. I was in extreme shock. It was Brad. I almost screamed at my mom, asking her what is he doing here. Brad came forward to acknowledge that this situation was uncomfortable but he's sorry for how he treated me in school and that he really cares about my mom. My mom asked us to sit and let her explain how this all happened. I remember screaming "I don't give a fuck about your explanation. You tossed me aside for this piece of shit. You're a pathetic excuse of a mother." My mom then defended him when said "Don't you dare call him that." She then said she tried to accommodate everyone in this tough situation by keeping the relationship away from me. She then said "Like it or not, Brad is here to stay. If you don't like it you're more than welcome to leave." I packed my bags right there and then. I called my grandma and told her about the whole situation. She drove to my house and confronted my mom. After a shouting match between them, I left with my grandma. My mom tried calling me several weeks after but I blocked her. She tried to visit me but I called the cops on her. After that, she sort of gave up. It had been two years since I'd heard from my mom. Then I get a call from her yesterday she said it's urgent and we need to meet up. I don't know if I should go. [Update](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/zhakdg/i_feel_good_for_what_i_did_to_my_mom_and_her/) (10 Dec 22) **I feel good for what I did to my mom and her boyfriend.** Well, curiosity got the best of me. There was also a burning desire to unload on her. I finally texted back my mom asking where should we meet. She said we could meet for lunch at the restaurant at 12:00 PM. I didn't have any class today so I was good to go. When I arrived at the restaurant, I heard some woman scream my name. It was my mom who I haven't seen for two years. She asked how was I and said she would hug me but said she knew I would reject it. Her voice was shaking when she asked me to follow her to her table. Unsurprisingly, Brad was sitting there. He didn't even look me in the eye as we sat down. He just nodded his head as if to simply acknowledge my arrival. As my mom sat down she started shooting out multiple questions. "What you've been up to?" "Are you in school?" "How's it going?" I got annoyed and told her "Stop wasting my time with these questions. What do you want from me?". She responded, "Well before we tell you, can we explain how all of this happened?" I said "Sure". For those of you asking me to get her ass in trouble with the school board. I hate to break it to you, but they never interacted with each other when Brad was in school. Brad only knew about her because his friends would take pictures of her before gym class started and share them with everyone. It was Brad who approached her at a bar. She didn't recognize him. So he told her he went to the high school she works at and graduated recently. My mom was lonely and jokingly told him she wouldn't tell anyone that he wasn't 21 as long as he hung out with her. They exchanged numbers and made a promise to hang out with each other. She said she knew that I wouldn't be comfortable with her seeing a peer of mine. So she kept it a secret and convinced herself it was going to be a short and casual relationship. Eventually, the relationship got serious. When she was hanging out at his house she asked him about introducing him to me. He told her it wasn't a good idea. She responded by saying I'll get over the age gap relationship. He was forced to come clean about the relationship I had with him in high school. That's when my mom started tearing up and her voice was shaking. She said she was in shock about what she had done. She couldn't sleep at night because of the guilt. She couldn't even look at me without feeling immense guilt. She had him blocked on her phone. After a week he sent him a message on Facebook to at least meet him once. She obliged. He showed up with roses. and begged for forgiveness. He even said he'll apologize to me in person and that he's a changed person. She took him back. The next was the day she invited him to dinner. My mom burst into tears and begged me to forgive her for hurting me. She then said these two years have been painful for her. Finally, Brad spoke and admitted "She misses you like crazy dude. She still needs you in her life." My mom said "I am sorry for being an awful mother. We want to make it up to you. We're moving to California and we want you to come with us. We will foot the bill for your education and everything else. You won't have to work at all. You'll have a permanent place in our home." I don't know what the hell came to me but I started laughing like crazy. Like a madman. It was the most ridiculous proposition. Now, this is what makes me the monster. This is what I really came there for. After I calmed down. This is what I said to her: "Mom you must be the most delusional c\*\*\* if you think I'll ever forgive you. You are dead to me for good. The only acknowledgment you'll get for me is me pissing on your grave when you pass away." Then she was hysterically crying. I got up from the table and left the restaurant. Only a minute after walking to the parking lot, I hear my mom screaming at Brad to stop following me. I really wanted this confrontation. The moment he grabs my shirt, I turn around and sucker punch him in the face. He drops on the road with his mouth bleeding. My mom comes to physically restrain him from hurting me until he calms down. I told them "This is what I think about your proposal." It's been four hours now after the incident. I know deep down I should be ashamed of myself. But I feel amazing inside. I don't know if adrenaline can last that long. It feel like I took my power back. >What does a guy do that's only a year older than you to make that kinda money to pay your college. If it's your mom wouldn't she already* have that saved or set up. Just weird. >>**OOP** - I don't what job Brad has. My mom on the other hand has been saving up money ever since my father passed. I remember telling if me if I got good grade she'll take out a loan for me to pay for my school and pay it back herself. **Reminder - I'm not the OOP**
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"2022-12-16T16:55:25"
I am the wife of a porn addict, and it destroyed me
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*I am not OP This was originally posted in /r/NoFap by /u/automaticaide1325* trigger warnings: >!severe addiction, severe depression & self harm!< mood spoiler: >!bleak, depressing!<   [I am the wife of a porn addict, and it destroyed me](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/ms6cao/i_am_the_wife_of_a_porn_addict_and_it_destroyed_me/)- April 16th 2021 Porn is not some innocent past time. Porn isn't something that doesn't hurt those we love. Porn is destructive. To yourself and to those that love you. I used to be confident, self assured, had pride in myself, and loved myself. Now, nearly 6 years later, I'm a shell of the person I used to be, because of my husbands porn addiction. I watched, year after year, my husband ogle other women, right in front of me, literally fantasizing about fucking these women, while sitting right next to me holding my hand. I learned how time after time, my husband preferred to sit in some dirty, nasty public bathroom, for God only knows how long, watching God only knows what, and jerking off, to the point of injury, instead of coming home and making love to his willing and waiting wife. I now know that during our lovemaking, all my husband thinks about are nameless women, and is fucking them in his head, and just using my body as a means of doing this. There's more, so much more, but it hurts too much to talk about it. I had caught him, a few times, he rationalized his behavior, promised to stop, and told me he had, for years. Now I found out, it's never stopped. Not once. He's been lying to me for years, and now, finally, when he's literally destroyed the person who loved him more than life itself, he's ready to change. Why did his recovery have to come at my expense? Why did his willingness to finally get help and admit to what he's been doing to me all the years, have to happen when I've reached rock bottom? And now, I'm supposed to continue to support him, to make it "easier" for him so he doesn't relapse, be kind and sweet and not talk about it with him, so that he can continue to succeed. While I watch him take quick "peeks" at bikini girls on TV, or quick glances at young girls in tight yoga pants at the store. I'm supposed to make it easier for him, when I no longer want to live, when I don't sleep, when I hurt myself to take away the inner pain my husbands addiction has caused me. So, for those of you that think this is harmless, you are dead wrong. If you think that by hiding it makes it ok, you are wrong. I would never had married him had I known he had any addiction, drugs, alcohol, gambling, or sex. I had the right to know about it, I had the right to know what I was marrying into, to make that decision for myself if I could accept it, but that choice was taken away from me. For the sake of your loved ones, be honest, from the beginning. Don't take away their right to decide. Because for me, at this point, it's a matter of my own life or death if I stay.   [I am the wife of a porn addict, and it destroyed me Update](https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/zgf3k6/i_am_the_wife_of_a_porn_addict_and_it_destroyed/) - Dec 8th 2022 It's been just over 2 years since I first learned of my husband's addiction. It's hard to read my initial post, man, was I in a deep dark hole. That hole only grew, too, and I saw some pretty dark times in the months to come. For those who offered kind words, sympathy, offered advice, and reached out... thank you. For those of you who did the opposite, all I can say is, I hope and I pray that you never have to experience what I have the last 2 years. Over the last 2 years, I have been dealt many disclosures and admissions. Each one worse than the last. What I thought was a pornography and masturbation addiction, turned out to be far worse. I can say this has been the most humbling experience, and I've learned that unless you are in someone's place, you really have no idea of what you would do, regardless of what you think you would do. It's also been humiliating, degrading, tormenting, and isolating in ways that are unimaginable. Some will say I'm weak for staying as long as I have, but they are wrong. It takes great strength to wake up every day and face the same demons, and determination and grit to slay them every single day. Some days I wanted to die. Other days I wanted to run. Yet, every day I chose to keep fighting, until I no longer felt like dying or running. For those of you who are struggling with this addiction, if there is anything I hope to gain out of all we've been through, all I have endured, it is this. Pornography is a drug and a powerful one at that. It lures you in with the promise of pleasure and excitement, and when it is done with you, then what? You are alone. Sitting in a dark room with nothing but the lights of a computer screen as a companion. Alone. Standing in a bathroom with your phone in your hand as your lover. Alone. Laid back on your sofa, staring at a frozen television screen after your video has ended. Alone. Then the shame comes. The shame of once again giving in to this temptation. The shame that you couldn't stop yourself yet again. The shame of your secret and that you chose fantasy over your partner, the one person who's there every day to support you, to love you, to live a life with, yet you seek sexual release behind his/her back, knowing they deserve better, knowing this is wrong. But it doesn't end there. No. Pornography is not done with you yet. Erectile dysfunction. Viewing pornography that is progressively hardcore, or material you never dreamed you would view, or worst-case scenario... illegal pornography, and I promise you, it will happen. Like any drug, you build a tolerance. Then, when fantasy isn't enough, you physically start acting out. Cheating. Public masturbation. Stalking. Window peeping. The list goes on. Will porn be there to keep you warm at night? Will porn wrap its comforting arms around you when you are grieving a loss? Will porn give you a family to fill your home with warm memories? Will porn build a life with you? Or would you rather look back and think about all the times you masturbated while your wife slept? Or how you'd rather miss your kids school concert so you can have time alone to get off? You are the one missing out. This isn't a life. You are at the mercy of pornography and the price you pay is far more than you realize. You aren't just hurting yourself; you're hurting those you say you love. I can promise you; your partner isn't going to angry...they're going to be hurt that you would rather turn to fantasy then to them, and they deserve better. You deserve better. For anyone who's interested in knowing... I'm alive and well, although if I were honest, I didn't know if I would be. My husband's addiction had many layers, has many layers, and everything that was safe to me, had been violated in one way or another, and I no longer had safety. I had nowhere to go, no one to talk to, because if anyone knew what my life was, I would be ostracized. My kids would have been ostracized. I had far more to lose than just a marriage. After feeling about as low as anyone could, I decided to have cosmetic surgery. For me. And I feel amazing about myself again. I also went back to school to get my master's degree, with the plan to specialize in sexual addictions. I'm 1 1/2 years in, with 1 1/2 years left. All A's thus far. Maybe I'll open my own practice. Maybe I'll move. Who knows. What I do know is that I'm not limited. Do I still have days that are rough? Absolutely. But I fight, every damn day, I fight back. I love myself. I love who I have become, and I have had to pay dearly for the person I am today. My last disclosure was 5 months ago, when I learned my husband was using his job to get entrance into women's homes and use their personal items for his pleasure. My advice to anyone... get cameras installed. He also went window peeping on the night of my birthday, 6 months ago. The next month, my husband entered treatment. Am I still married? Yes. But with very strong boundaries. I made him disclose his actions to his employer. He is no longer allowed to work alone. Period. I have a tracking app so that I can make sure he's not frequenting public places to act out. He has an app that monitors his screen activity so that he cannot access pornography. He does not use credit cards so that he cannot purchase anything without me knowing. These were the conditions I made clear to him if we were to stay married, or he could leave at any time. He chose to stay. After inpatient treatment 1000 miles away and $25,000 later, he recognizes now how ill he was, and he will always be an addict, and he never wants to go back to that place again. He is willing to do what he knows he needs to do to stop that from happening. He has little self-control, and he has told me and his therapist that I have saved his life and he is forever grateful that even with the boundaries, I stood by him, and I fought for something far greater than just our marriage. Are the boundaries too much? Maybe. But he's welcome to leave any time. I am not concerned with protecting the addict, but I will protect him, myself, and society to the best of my abilities. To conclude this post, I would like to say that pornography is not what you think it is. Many of these people in pornography are victims of sex trafficking, childhood sexual abuse, prostitution, and forced into this life with drugs, manipulation, abuse, fear tactics, and many others. It is a business that supports the continuation of all of these things, and I encourage you to please check out the Fight the New Drug site (link below). If you are not part of the solution to combat this, then you are part of the problem, and as long as you support pornography, you are supporting the continuation of abuse of thousands of children, women, and men. Good luck to you all and I wish you the best in this powerful struggle. https://fightthenewdrug.org/ **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-16T17:11:19"
TIFU by saying something horrible about my child
CONCLUDED
#Reminder: I am not OP. This is a repost sub! **Trigger warnings: >!racism, infidelity (cheating), child abandonment!<** **On Fri 25 Nov 11:41:16 2022 /u/idkwtdnow2 made this post on /r/TIFU:** https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/z4bct3/tifu_by_saying_something_horrible_about_my_child/ I found out when I was young that I can't have any kids. I slept around a lot when I was younger. One of them was a girl I slept with around 10 years ago until I found out not only she is married but she also has a child. I broke up with her as soon as I found out. About a year ago she contacted me and told me I have a child. I reminded her that I can't have any kids but she insisted that the kid has to be mine and kept calling until I agreed to a DNA test just to get rid of her. Turned out that she was cheating on her husband again and he found out, took DNA tests from both kids and found out that the younger one isn't his. I took the test and she is mine. I can't explain how happy I was to know that I have a daughter and how sad I was to know that I missed everything. Her first steps, her first word, everything. He started to act like a jerk and gave her an ultimatum. He would stay with her for their child but he didn't want her affair child. I saw my daughter begging her mom to let her stay and it broke my heart. I got into a fight with him and asked him to have some fcking sympathy for a child that HE RAISED but he didn't change his mind so I took my daughter with me. Kiddo has been living with me for a year now. The first few months were hard but then things got better however before I take her I decided to know more about her. I asked her mom and her teachers about her and they all told me that she is perfect. She is quiet, polite and smart but that is not how she acted with me. I kept thinking what am I doing wrong? Why is the girl that everyone describes as an angel behaving this way? But I couldn't find out It was about a month ago that I fcked up. It was a very bad day generally. First kiddo couldn't wake up to go to school because she slept around 4 am. I was so mad at her she knows she is not allowed to stay up so late. I took her to school and went to work where I had a very bad day and then at the end of the day I received a call from her school asking me to pick her up because she has been suspended for 2 days for bullying a boy. I know the boy. He was no victim. He has been saying racist things to my little girl since day one but still what she had done to him was terrible and wrong. I had to take the rest of the day off and get her. When I got her I found out that she also got a D in her exam. She never got anything other than A when she was with her mom and when I got angry about it she told me to go fck myself. I was fuming. And it wasn't the end of it. We had another fight that night because she refused to clean her bedroom and another one after that because she wouldn't eat her food because "she doesn't like salad" and another one becsuse it was her turn to wash the dishes(that's her only chore, she has to wash the dishes once a week) I was so tired and if it wasn't enough I got a call from my best friend and coworker to let me know that I screwed up at work by going early and my boss is mad at me. I was so angry I couldn't help venting. I didn't mean a word of what I said but I couldn't help saying it. I told him taking kiddo in was the worst mistake of my life and if only I could send her back to her mom I turn around and she is standing right behind me with her eyes full of tears. I apologized 1000 times but she was crying so much I don't think she heard me. That's when everything changed. She started to do everything I told her to do. She got A's in all her exams. She was polite and quiet and I hated it. She didn't tell me about her day anymore. She didn't laugh or talk to me much. I put her i therapy. I kept trying to talk to her and cheer her up and get her to behave like she used to until one day she started crying and said: "what do you want from me? I'm a good girl now" I hate mysef I miss her. I miss her waking me up in the morning in my days off when she knows I like to sleep more but she wakes me up anyway just to be annoying. I miss her stealing my fries because apparently "she loves fries more than I do". I miss her watching horror movies when I told her she is not allowed to and then coming to my room at night because she thinks Annabelle is coming after her and she wants me to hug her. I miss her telling me she loves me every day I asked her teacher how she is doing at school and she told me she has been perfect lately and that was when it hit me, She was never perfect when she was with her mom, she was deppressed. My family hates me and none of them wants to talk to me anymore. My sister is coming to stay with us for a week to cheer her up I tell her I love her every day and apologize but it doesn't work. I fcked up and I don't know how to fix it TLDR; I said something horrible about my daughter in a moment of anger and she heard me. I ruined everything *Relevant comments from other users left in response:* >Have you explained why you said what you said? That you were having a shitty day and you said it in the heat of the moment and didn’t for one second believe it, you were just lashing out? She may be young but tell her everything - that you thought you could never have kids and she is your miracle. That you would never ever want to wish her away and you are so so glad she is there. That you want to be a good dad to her and you and her need to work together to make this work. Ask her what you can do to make it up to her. Redecorate her room, tickets to her favourite band, anything she wants. As a start. Money doesn’t fix it but room redecorating will make her see that this is her permanent home. Remind her that this is her home. Be blunt and open and honest with her. Yes she’s young but she’s already been through so much she needs to know that you’re not going to abandon her. You won’t be on the birth certificate so legally do you need to adopt her or anything? If so, do it. Tell her you’re adopting her to make this official. Show her how much you want her with you. Forever. If you have tattoos get her name tattooed on you. Show her something permanent to prove to her your love and commitment. That’s what she needs right now. She’s already had one father abandon her and she’s terrified you’ll do the same. In response to above comment, another commenter said >>Have you explained why you said what you said? That you were having a shitty day and you said it in the heat of the moment and didn’t for one second believe it, you were just lashing out? >My adoptive mom used to say similar things to me when I was little and try and say “Oh I was just angry” too. I’m 25 now and still remember every single one. I do think she’s owed an explanation, but at the same time idk if explaining will help. Another comment >I can't imagine. Not only did her first fily reject her, now the one person she thought might actually care has said it was a mistake. >But people do make mistakes. Best you can do is sit down and be honest. You know it was terribly wrong to say those things. And you didn't mean them. You were incorrectly externalizing your own frustrations with yourself. >I'd promise you'll do whatever she needs to rebuild that trust. Whenever she is ready. And then be patient--it could take a long long time. But make the effort. And definitely go to therapy with her or by yourself. It's not her fault and she shouldn't have to work through that herself when it was you who made the mistake. Later in the thread, another comment > ... I wasn't in the exact sort of situation, but I can understand where she is coming from. >I won't go into exact details, as this is my main account, however long story short I was raised by my grandparents because of bad parents. I always thought that my parents rather go off and do what they wanted, rather than to raise me. It made me feel unwanted and that my own birth parents wanted nothing to do with me. I am a grown adult now, and it still bothers me. It also made me question if it was my fault, and if my grandparents only took me in because they had no choice. >I am sure she is in the same situation. In her mind, what she called her dad for 8-10 years wants nothing to do with her, and her own mother choose him over her. She probably feels unloved, and like a burden. Whether or not this is the case, that is how she perceives it. Hearing you say what you did just solidified her thoughts of being a burden and feeling unloved. >You cannot fix this in one day, and there is no telling how long it will take to fix. It's like running a car without ever changing the oil. It wears down slowly, eventually causing the entire motor to seize up. Once it is seized, changing that oil won't fix it, you gotta tear the motor down and rebuild it back up from scratch. Funny analogy, but she is the car, and her parents were the oil, while you are the fresh oil change. She is broken, worn down, and "neglected", and you must help rebuild her and even then, she may not be the same as she was before. >My advice to you is, stop apologizing. You are only reminding her of it, and will prolong the damage. You can say sorry to your seized up engine, but it wont run again until you actively put in the effort to rebuild it. You need to sit down with her and have a long talk. Ask her how she truly feels, and what you can do to help reassure her that you do love her, and want nothing but the best for her. Explain to her why you expected her to be at school everyday, to get good grades, and why chores are important. Let her know its not because you just feel like controlling her, or to have her be your outlet of frustration. Do as global says, as its a great start. Remind her that you WANT her there. Remind her that you NEED her there. Don't let this little girl think she is only there because you had no choice, and is a burden because of it. I highly doubt this is how you feel, but in her mind, that's just the way it is. She won't ever think differently so long as you just continue like business as usual. You must show her, as actions are more important than words. Setup a specific time/day every week/month that is dedicated to just her and you. Take her to the movies, take her to the beach, find her hobbies and support her in them. Remind her that you truly care, and are just trying to do what's best. >She may be young, but she is old enough to understand, with proper explanation, of why you said what you said. It cannot be easy to be thrown a curve ball like you were, and to be immediately expected to take her in and raise her with no warning, no preparation, and no plan. Don't just explain things and go on with life. Ask her questions, make sure any and all questions she has are answered. But at the end of the day, you actively have to remind her that she is your angel and you want nothing but the best for her. BUT, you must also remind yourself of this. Life is stressful, and so is raising a child. You have to actively remember that she is not there to take the blunt of your long days, or to have your frustrations taken out on her. You must actively remember that kids are not stupid, and pick up signs of things. If you cannot control your own emotions, you cannot expect her to. Seek counseling for the BOTH of you, and be there with her, let your therapist know of your frustrations and problems, and let them help you both through it. >Remember, it will take time, don't give up, and stop thinking about her as a burden, or she will be one. She is a child and is lost. >Goodluck, and remember, smiles are contagious. **On Wed 07 Dec 14:58:45 2022 /u/idkwtdnow2 made this update post on /r/TIFU:** https://old.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/zf3617/tifu_update_by_saying_something_horrible_about_my/ A lot of you asked me for an update so I decided to let you know how we are doing First of all thank you for your amazing advices. They certainly helped. Having my sister over for a week was also good for her. She is better than me when it comes to kids and my daughter seemed better by the end of the week So I explained everything to her. I told her she is my little miracle and I love her and will never send her back. I explained the whole story. She didn't say anything but she listened. We redecorated her entire bedroom. I also realized that I don't have any of her photos at home so we got some family photos and some photos of just her and put them in every room (Is putting photos in the laundry room really as weird as my sister says?). She loves horror movies so we had a movie night and watched Coraline together(I don't know how she wasn't scared because I WAS. Is that seriously a kids movie?) We have also started family therapy. Today she even started to play that awful AWFUL song that she loves on repeat like she used to do before. After the 10th(?) time listening to it in a row I jokingly asked her if she minds sulking again and for a minute I thought oh no I fcked up again but then I caught her smiling which is like a huge success for me because she hasn't been smiling at me for weeks and I wanted to share it with everyone. TL;DR : I fcked up but I think we are gonna be ok. She has been doing better and she is even annoying me and smiling about it now *edited to include TWs* #Reminder: I am not OP. This is a repost sub!
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"2022-12-16T17:38:34"
AITA for yelling at my roommate after he snooped and found my "toys"?
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**I am not OOP. OOP is** [u/WhyAmIAFae](https://www.reddit.com/user/WhyAmIAFae/). She posted in r/AmItheAsshole. I fixed a few spelling errors for readability. Your daily fun fact: u/Noire_Raven requested African Wild Dogs. African Wild Dogs can run up to 44 miles per hour, (70.8 kilometers per hour) and they only have four toes per foot! ([Source 1](https://www.conservationafrica.net/blog/interesting-facts-about-african-wild-dogs/#:~:text=African%20wild%20dogs%20generally%20live,large%20rounded%20ears%20to%20swivel), [Source 2)](https://www.lionworldtravel.com/news/fun-interesting-facts-about-african-wild-dogs). **Trigger Warning:** >!sex shaming, snooping!< **Mood Spoiler:** >!Hopeful but I'm still concerned about the roommate!< **Original** [Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/z3rnab/aita_for_yelling_at_my_roommate_after_he_snooped/)**: November 24, 2022** I (22F) have a roommate (22M) and we've been living together over a year. We've been friends for a long while and I'm talking before middle school. In our apartment, I have my own bathroom and typically keep all my essentials under my sink; pads, makeup, toilet paper, etc. I work long hours and I only use a certain amount of toilet paper every time I wipe so I don't go through toilet paper very fast. I am single. Have been for a long time and don't see myself finding a SO for a long while still and I'm content with that. I have toys to keep myself engaged and happily pleasured and I clean them after each session. I keep them under my bathroom sink while they dry after a cleaning and when not in use, a tote under my bed so they're not in plain sight in my room. I used them the night before this incident and apparently forgot to put one away after I cleaned it so it was sitting on my bathroom sink. I got home from work the other night and he was sitting in our living room on his phone but looked up and said we needed to talk. I asked him what, he said my room. I asked what the problem was and he looked a bit uncomfortable and said that he saw my toys. I asked him what he meant and he said that he went into my bathroom and saw one on the counter and 2 more under the sink and said it was disgusting to just leave them out. Apparently after finding them, he peeked around my room and also found my tote under my bed and found my other toys. I'm not going to lie, I went ballistic. I asked him why he was in my room and he said he needed toilet paper because he was almost out. I told him that doesn't give him the right to go into my room unannounced and when I'm not home, much less search my room to see if I had more. He said that he wouldn't have said anything if one wasn't on the counter and he overlooked them in the past. Turns out, it was a regular occurrence for him to go into my room while I wasn't home and borrow my things. He said his reason for bringing it up was because it was unsanitary to leave one on my bathroom sink and accused me of being a sex addict because of how many toys I have and that he's concerned for my health due to my toys. I do have a few more than most people but I've explored what I like and don't like and some were expensive so I'm not going to throw them out and I can't return or gift them. So some are used rarely or not at all. I told him he didn't have the right to go into my room and bathroom and told him to go fuck himself because he doesn't get to control what I buy nor do in my free time unless I'm not making rent or being able to pay for our shared bills. Since then, I have not spoken to him and he's avoiding looking at me or being in the same room. I did ask a friend and she thinks I may've been too hard on him but I don't feel bad at all. So, AITA for yelling at my roommate after he found my toys while snooping? Slight update/revision: I confused some of you in the comments, he did NOT use my toys. I washed them as an extra precaution just in case something was done to them like hot sauce being put on them or something. Not because he used them. And update, I am talking to him tonight when I'm off. I texted him and told him we needed to talk immediately and if he refused then I would be finding another place to live. I'm taking some of yall's advice and investing in a camera for my room and a door lock that locks with a key from the outside. Thank you all for your concern and I will update after our talk is done. ***Relevant Comments:*** *Have you talked about sex lives before?* "Thank you! It's just weird, we're both open about our sex lives so it's not like it would be a surprise to him that I have toys because he was aware I had some. Maybe the amount? Even then, I'm angry regardless." *More info on amount of toys/if she will throw them away:* "Okay, so a couple things lol I have well over $900 worth of toys, I'm not tossing them but I will be washing them intensely and thoroughly. He tends to be more honest than not and did admit that he looked under my bed and saw my toys and did tell me what he used and returned and everything lines up. I haven't noticed anything missing and haven't in the past. And I'm not on birth control because I'm not sexually active even though I have intense cramps. I'm scared to death because the last time I was on birth control, I almost died because they made me puke up everything I ate every time I ate and it made me lose weight quickly and put me in the hospital. As I've said on other threads, I want to talk to him about this before any cement decisions get made because this has never been a pattern of behavior and want to know if this something deeper than me having toys or too many in his opinion. He knew I had toys but from what it appears is that he didn't realize how many. However, either way, before any big decisions are made, there is going to be a long talk involved for both parties and if he refuses or refuses to accept accountability, then moving out will be the next course of action." "I have rewards with stores in my area and do a lot of online browsing and buying with clearance, BOGO, promotional offers, etc so it's actually 20+ 😬 Maybe a bit excessive but I know what I do and don't like with toys now." ***OOP is voted NTA*** **Update (Same Post): November 29** I am alive, sorry for concerning some of you! We did talk and it was a bit interesting. As of right now, he is not moving out but this is how our talk went. I told him that I'm putting cameras up in my room and getting a door lock. He understood and apologized for violating my boundaries. When I asked him why he repeatedly went in my room, he said it started out as simple stuff like tape, scissors, toilet paper if he was running out, etc. If it was something that could be returned, he returned it. He said if I didn't trust him that I could search his room and I took him up on the offer, I found nothing. I also asked if he had taken any photos of me without my consent and he said no and let me search his phone. I'm not an idiot so I looked for any hidden folders in his gallery, his Google drive, SC hidden photos, even his hidden albums on Facebook, I found nothing. I asked him why he did it and at first he was a bit hesitant to say anything but did confirm that he did have a thing for me. He said he had a minor crush when we were kids and it had come back when we moved back in but I told him it wouldn't happen as I'm not even sure if I LIKE men at this point (I identify as pansexual but find myself more and more favoring women or non-binary individuals more than men) and that I've never held romantic feelings for him. He said that he expected that and apologized again. When I asked why he made it a big deal, he basically said that he knew I had toys but realize how many I had. He wasn't jealous but seeing the volume of how many I had was shocking and he's aware of my sexual habits because we've mutually spoken about ours but he was concerned that I had developed a sex addiction, thinking I bought all of them recently. I explained what I replied in some comments, that I started my collection a while ago and just never throw them out if I don't like them, and that not all of them are recent purchases. I told him that until further notice that I would be locking my door when I'm asleep or not home and he accepted that. He asked if I wanted him to move out and would accept it if I did and I told him no but he needed to regain trust if we wanted things to go back to how they were. I said the only area of the house I would spend any time with him in is the living, not my room. So overall, the talk went well and I lead the conversation. He was open to criticism, what I had to say and the boundaries I put in place. Time will tell if he can regain my trust but I do have faith in him. Update 2 because I forgot to mention something! I checked my room for cameras, like tore it apart and checked everything, electric sockets, light bulbs, EVERYTHING. And nothing! All safe! **While I could mark this as concluded, I'm marking it as ongoing just in case.**
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"2022-12-16T18:00:42"
TIFU by accidentally naming my nephew after a Pokémon.
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by** u/Bladehuraska **in** r/tifu   [**TIFU by accidentally naming my nephew after a pokemon.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/kdqzyp/tifu_by_accidentally_naming_my_nephew_after_a/) \- 15th December 2020 I was on a family vacation driving around the mountains and while in the van my little sister had her kid. The family is in celebration and apparently there was still a discussion on what the child's name would be. (Father not in the picture, long story). While they were discussing potentially unique names I kept overhearing they wanted it to begin with the letter Z (for whatever reason). by PURE COINCIDENCE I was in the van playing Pokémon Sword on my Nintendo switch in the back and I had JUST caught Zacian with a quick ball. (Truthfully this was my 2nd attempt at him and i just opened with it). I jokingly suggested, "Hey Zacian is a kool name. It means sword in Japanese." My mother and family loved it so its now official. On the real, my older sis and GF are the only ones that know the truth, so now we are getting some Pokémon related gifts for the baby for Christmas to reveal the truth and make it a funny joke. Edit: I will post a photo later if requested of the baby with their name. Edit 2:, I should clarify. The baby was NOT had in the van. Most of my family was in a van together in a different state where we got the phone call/video chat about it. Edit 3: Holy shit. Thank you all so much, especially for the awards. I've never gotten any before. I've been mostly a lurker redditor for years. I never thought this incident would get so much attention. >3 Edit 4: I'm updating now that the holidays are done. I made a 2 part tiktok video that covers the reveal to my mom bout the baby name and including photos at the end of baby Zacian with his name and a special Christmas gift.   [**UPDATE**](https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/krqo62/tifu_update_tifu_by_accidentally_naming_my_nephew/) \- 6th January 2021 First I want to say thank you all for the support, upvotes, and awards. As a long time reddit lurker that doesn’t do a lot of post it really caught me off guard and I’m really grateful. A lot of people asked for follow-ups, updates and such. My gf recorded my mothers reaction when we told her the story and the reddit post over the holidays. She took it well and we laughed about it. I made a 2 part tiktok video of her reaction and included some photos at the end of Baby Zacian with our xmas gift to him. (Sadly my gf stopped recording right when my mother cursed us out in a funny way) Below are the links to the videos. Hope ya’ll enjoy. [Tiktok 1 link thanks to u/disrespectfully1](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRVG9Ahc/) [Tiktok 2 link thanks to u/Wren1101](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRVGMUQd/) TL;DR I proposed the name Zacian from Pokemon Sword for my nephew since they wanted a unique name with a Z and the family took it seriously. My nephew is officially named after a legendary pokemon.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-16T18:34:37"
[NSFW] OOP's friends in relationship invite them to join, become 'throuple'
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#I'm not OP. This is a repost sub! **On Wed Dec 07 2022 13:50:01 UTC /u/ProfitNext535 posted this to /r/offmychest** https://old.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/zf1la4/had_a_threesome_with_my_closest_friends_and/ Warning this is a long story NSFW. Tldr at bottom So I 26F have 2 friends Lexi 25f & Dan27m (fake names) who are a couple. I’ve been friends with them both for about 6 years, they were already dating when I met them. One day Lexi and Dan threw a party and we ran out of liquor fast. me and Dan decided to go get more liquor, on our way to the store Dan who was obviously drunk told me how attractive I’ve been looking lately and how he and Lexi wanted to ask me for a threesome but were too scared to, I shut him down obviously because the situation me and him alone like this was SUPER SUS. Later that night I told Lexi about what he said to me and she confirmed it and said that she was the one that bought it up to him because they’ve always been into threesomes and it wouldn’t be their first together. I was speechless as she continued to tell me about how she’s always been attracted to me (she’s bi btw) and never asked me to join them before because she didn’t want to scare me off or ruin our friendship. I was completely against it at first because for one I considered myself to be straight, I’ve never been with a woman before and the thought of it made me disgusted YET curious. She told me that I didn’t have to if I didn’t want to, but my curiously ended up getting the best of me. I agreed and she kept asking if I was sure, mind you Dan wasn’t in the room while me and her talked about this. So after everyone had left the party the 3 of us were sitting on the couch and Lexi initiated contact first, she could tell I was shy and she asked me if she could kiss me, I told her yes, now the kiss was awkward at first because I’ve never kissed a woman before but I got into it fast and I liked it, she started to undress me and eventually Dan joined us and I was honestly shocked at how big Dan was. We tried every threesome position they knew, they were gentle with me and kept telling me I can stop whenever I wanted, I told them I didn’t want to stop. And let me tell you it was the best sex I have ever had, they were both amazing. When we finished I slept on the spare bedroom and they slept together in their bed. when I woke up the next day I felt so guilty and embarrassed about it. The liquor wore off and so many thoughts were running through my head “Did Lexi mean what she said, will she be jealous that I enjoyed having sex with Dan. Will Dan not look at me as one of his best friends anymore. Why did I enjoy Lexi’s hands and mouth on my body so much. Did they even enjoy it as much as I did. And does this mean I’m bisexual now” just so many thoughts at once. I eventually shook these thoughts away and grew the courage to leave the room, they were already up waiting for me in the kitchen. They greeted me like last night didn’t happen, we ate breakfast and had our usual banter. Lexi asked me how did I feel about last night. I stuttered and told her “it was alright” and I continued to gobble down my frosted flakes. She proceeded to say jokingly “You know you liked Dan fucking you I saw the faces you made, His dick is big isn’t it.” Cue the jealousy thoughts coming back I just knew I fucked up. I guess she noticed how uneasy I felt, and she assured me “OP it’s ok I’m not mad at you, me and Dan enjoyed it too. We can’t pretend like it didn’t happen, Come on let’s talk about it. How did we feel and what was our favorite part. I’ll go first, MY favorite part was eating you out while Dan behind me and I feel like for your first time with a woman you’re a natural.” Then Dan said his favorite part was going back and fourth hitting us both from the back while me and her kissed. When it was my turn I said “ my favorite part was when you both were eating me out together and I love how you guys made me feel comfortable.” And after we go agreed not to let this affect our friendship. I became their threesome go to person and we began having them regularly for the next 9 months UNTIL THE DAY THEY PULLED A FULL 180 AND POPPED THE QUESTION… they invited me over and sat me down. They each took turns expressing how they grew feelings for me and ultimately agreed to ask me together if I wanted to be their girlfriend. Since we were already comfortable with each other and the threesomes were normal with us why not make it official. I was taken aback because I thought we all agreed we wouldn’t let this affect our friendship. I told them I had to think about it and left. That was 2 days ago, since then they’ve both been texting me saying this is what they were afraid of they didn’t want to scare me away and lose me. I assured them both they didn’t lose me I just needed some time to think. Now that I’ve been alone I can’t stop thinking about during the 9 months anytime we went out clubbing or to a party I would get really jealous when I saw them dancing with someone else even though I had no right to feel that way. I guess I have grown separate feelings for them both. I really don’t want to lose either of them by telling them no, and I don’t know if I’m ready for my first polyamorous relationship. I should add they both had their own unique way of expressing their feelings for me. Dan told me that he’s never felt this close to me these past few months as he is now and not just because of the sex but because he wants to keep me (and Lexi) safe, he doesn’t want to see me with anyone else and he wishes some nights to lay in bed with us both and just cuddle us. Lexi however said there are days when she cant stop staring at me and admiring my beauty, and she even imagine what our lives would be like with marriage and both of us being pregnant at the same time. WHAT SHOULD I DO?????? EDIT: I forgot to mention even though we’ve been having these regular threesomes I haven’t come to full terms with my sexuality, and I don’t want to jump into a relationship with them knowing I can’t give them my all (not just my body) they deserve so much better than that. TLDR; My friends asked me for a threesome and it became a regular thing for us, it was the best sex Ive ever had, We agreed not to let it ruin our friendship until they pulled a 180 and asked me to be their girlfriend and professed their love for me. And I’m not sure what to do about it. *Relevant comments from OOP:* >*The only thing is I’ve never actually cane* [sic] *out as bisexual or even accepted the possibility really and I know it sounds stupid since it’s been going on for so long and my family and other friends don’t really know yet. It’s been a secret between the three of us for now.* In response to boundaries and interests, and pursuing the relationship >*I do want to go for it but I haven’t come to full terms with my sexuality yet even though this has been going on for months, I don’t want to go into a relationship with them yet knowing I’m not able to give my full self to them and not just my body.* **On Fri Dec 09 2022 04:16:46 UTC /u/ProfitNext535 posted this update to /r/offmychest** https://old.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/zgmk6u/update_had_a_threesome_with_my_closest_friends/ Here’s a little update. I realized you only live once and I truly don’t care what people think about me, so here’s my coming out… I am OFFICIALLY bisexual!!! I’m smiling so hard while typing this out. And I accepted the fact that I was Bisexual before I met up with them. Now to the real update. I invited Lexi and Dan over and they were happy to see me, and god did I miss them too, even if it was only a couple of days since I’ve seen them. The first half I did most of the talking, I followed some of you guys advice and told them everything I was feeling, the jealousy, the sexuality confusion, I just laid it all on the table. I told then that I loved them both deeply, (as friends) but I do have strong feelings for them both, I feel like the three of us are compatible, sexually and mentally. I asked them some questions and they had an answer for each one. The conversation is still fresh so I may miss some points that were made. Question 1: If I join this relationship and we become a Throuple, would I be here just for sex or would it be more emotional (I guess that’s best for what I was thinking)? For example: decision making, going on dates, you know where I’m getting at. Because I would hate to be a third wheel if we were to make this serious. Lexi’s answer: “Well OP to start off the sex is great but that’s not why we asked you be our girlfriend. You make us genuinely happy, you’ve been our friend for 6 years so you’ve seen us at our best and worse times, we can both come to you separately about problems like friends, work, family and you’re always there to listen, you always put others first even when they don’t deserve it.” Dan chimes in: “She’s right OP your compassion for others is one of your most attractive traits, and we don’t want you to feel like a third wheel we want you to be with us fully, no jealousy, no special treatments, you’ve been with us from the beginning and we honestly never even thought of asking anyone else to be a throuple with us” Question 2: If one of us is out of town or at work and the other 2 decides they want to have sex will that be a problem, will there be jealousy involved or would we have to wait for all 3 of us to be together to have sex? Dan: “if you 2 decide to have sex while I’m at work I wouldn’t mind at all.” (The rest of his answer is kind of fuzzy) Lexi: “I wouldn’t mind either, being in a serious relationship does involves sex, so that wouldn’t be a problem with us, and if one of us do have a problem with it me and Dan are good with communication we’ll speak on it and hopefully you will too.” The conversation was very long to type everything out but we also talked about boundaries. 1: no sleeping with other people outside of the throuple, make time for each other, go on dates, be adventurous, communication. I did do a lot of googling on successful throuples before we talked. But I wanted to explain to you guy’s exactly how I feel about Lexi and Dan. Lexi is sexy, kind, bold and she doesn’t take shit from anyone if she has a problem with you, you’ll know, lol. Overall she’s just an amazing person, you can never have a dull conversation with her, and I will always respect her asking me if she could kiss me for the very first time during the first threesome. I’ve never been with a woman, sexually or romantically before her and I wouldn’t wish it to be with anyone else but her, my best friend turned girlfriend. (Omg this sounds like a movie lol). Now for Dan, he is strong, protective, kind and hot (a big teddy bear) I’ve never had a male friend I could confide in the way I could confide into him, he’s a great listener, and from what I’ve seen with him and Lexi over the past 6 years is he’s very romantic. I feel safe with them, and I hope they feel safe with me too. I decided to do this with them, but we are taking it slow, I will continue to live in my apartment, and we will visit each other frequently, I’m not thinking of marriage just yet, I know Lexi bought it up before but I don’t want to think that far ahead at least not yet, And We live in The US and from my understanding that is illegal here. But we’ll figure it out in the long run. But that’s it, we’re really doing this, and I couldn’t be happier, we have our first date planned for next Saturday, we agreed to let Dan do the planning for that. I know it sounds so cliche but I wouldn’t be suprised to be met with rose petals, a romatic dinner, champagne ect. Like I said before Dan is a serious romantic. But that’s the update. Also a commenter said I should consider writing, and they wouldn’t be the first person to tell me that, but fortunately for me, I love nursing and helping people more. I’m currently in school to be a RN. And for the creeps that keeps dm’ing me stop asking for photos of me and Lexi and “proof” of our threesomes. Some people truly are disgusting. #Reminder: I am not OP. This is a repost sub!
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OOP's mother is racist to his girlfriend eventhough she's married to a man of the same race.
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"2022-12-16T20:08:40"
AITA for asking my boyfriend to charge his family member for fraud?
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/thr0w4w4ylife in r/amitheasshole** ---   [**AITA for asking my boyfriend to charge his family member for fraud?**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/o7nzcm/aita_for_asking_my_boyfriend_to_charge_his_family/) - 25 June 2021 Throw away account. Backstory, I (27F) and my boyfriend (34M) have been together 5 years and have worked really hard to save for a house. 2 weeks ago we fell in love with a house and we put down an initial deposit to hold the property. (The house won’t be built until end of 2022) We have been in talks with a mortgage broker and the builders finance people. Last week we received some shocking news when my boyfriends credit score came back as being bad. There was activity on the statement that was 100% not his and a credit card that has gone into default over the last 6 months. This credit card was originally my boyfriends but he swears he closed the account and cancelled the card mid 2019. Long story short we discovered that a family member that was living with him a few years ago has gotten ahold of the card at some point and has been using the card on and off since 2019. They defaulted on payments in early 2020 but payed this off, then defaulted again in December of last year and the account is still in default and over $5000 is owed in charges and late fees. Charges for shopping, news agency, take away food and pubs (gambling) My boyfriend has had zero knowledge of this as he hasn’t had access to the account after he “closed” it, and hasn’t been receiving statements or notices from the bank, the family member has diverted these to their address. We’re now unable to successfully apply for a bank loan for our house as they won’t lend to my boyfriend with his credit the way it is. Our options are to 1. Proceed with fraud investigations and charges in the family member allowing us to prove this is of no fault of my boyfriends and successfully secure the loan. Or 2. Boyfriend pays the debt and we wait at least 2 years from the pay off date for his credit to regain some loss. Option 2 sets us back at lease 3 years in starting a family and our lives as home owners. This will also not allow my boyfriend to secure a bank loan to start up his own business he’s been dreaming of starting for a few years, this was the year he planned on. This has devastated us and put a massive delay in our plans. My boyfriend doesn’t like conflict and is going with option 2. He isn’t even planning on mentioning anything to the family member. He wants it to all go away and thinks this family member is going through a rough time. I want my boyfriend to proceed with fraud charges and investigation. We have worked too hard to not have our dream house and him owning his own business. So AITA for pushing my opinion on my boyfriend? Verdict: NTA   [**[UPDATE] AITA for asking my boyfriend to charge his family member for fraud?**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/p6pptw/update_aita_for_asking_my_boyfriend_to_charge_his/) - 18 August 2021 Update: I want to begin by thanking everyone for their advice on my original post. There were some really constructive strategies and words of advice. I spoke with my boyfriend about my concerns and was honest with him that things he was telling me didn’t all make sense. He was adamant he didn’t know anything about the credit card or the apparent enquiries on his credit account about pay day loans. My boyfriend is still refusing to open any fraud investigations against his family member and has said he will pay off the debt himself. But.. Some other things came out during our conversation that he was hiding from me. Lying has been a big issue of his during our whole relationship. In the past I have forgiven him for his lies but I can’t keep forgiving the same issue every few months when he promises to change, but we’re in the same spot every few months. (And I’m not talking little lies, I’m talking big lies and even bigger lies to cover up those lies) - I know I’m stupid for giving him the benefit of the doubt - So in saying this …. My boyfriend is now my ex boyfriend. When I spoke with my boyfriend about my concerns *above* he ended up picking up his bag and walking out on me and drove away. That was the last time I seen him in person. This is how this man dealt with an issue in our 5 year relationship. We haven’t spoke much since but I have definitely resigned to the fact my relationship is over. I think he is expecting me to forgive him like all the previous times. I have packed up his stuff and will return to him after my city comes out of our 6th lockdown. There is a good ending to this story tho. I spoke with my mortgage broker and the housing developers. I can’t afford the original townhouse I fell in love with alone but a smaller townhouse that I also loved came available and I’ve been approved for this one. I paid my deposit 3 days before my birthday last month!! I bought a house by my self!! TLDR: I broke up with my lying boyfriend of 5 years and celebrated by buying my own house! Edit 1. Oh my gosh guys this update has blown up like I never through it would. I will try to get around to reading all the comments and messages I’ve received Thank you so much for all the well wishes and congratulations!!   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-16T20:57:51"
OPs mum is obsessed with Harry Potter.
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"2022-12-16T22:21:16"
Should OP let her husband name their baby after a serial killer?
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"2022-12-16T22:37:09"
Boyfriend used the 'used car analogy'
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"2022-12-16T22:38:56"
OOP damn near hates her neighbour's autistic child + 1 year update.
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I'm not the OOP. This was posted by u/crumb-free in r/trueoffmychest. [Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/qpvhtk/i_damn_near_hate_my_downstairs_neighbors_austic/) (9 Nov 2021) **I damn near hate my downstairs neighbors austic child** I moved in almost 6 months ago. And it's just gotten really out of control the last 2 months. I think the kids 5? Non verbal autistic. My fucking lord. I'm fucking over it. He's constantly jumping around screaming slamming shit. It's so fucking bad we can't hang anything on the walls because of fear it'll drop due to vibrations from his tantrums. I should be oh poor kid. But fuck that. I paid to live in this home. It's only a duplex. And I have no peace and fucking quiet. He's damn near always throwing a fucking tantrum, and if he's not? We get to listen to this kids fucking music all night long on repeat through the heat vents Enough is fucking enough. I'm not paying my rent to constantly deal with a child screaming and jumping and whatever else the fuck he does all day and night. I even have decent. Not great. But decent noise cancelling headphones. I can't hear it over the fucking slamming and screaming all the fucking time. The vibrations through the floor are the fucking worst. I'm tired of feeling like I can't say shit, but it not only fucks up my day to day life, but my sleep on a regular basis. I'm fucking sick of it. All in the sake of a disabled child. It's not fucking fair. Edit. Holy shit. The responses. Wow. I just wanted to vent. I didn't look at this since pretty much I posted. I'll being going through everything. I just want a peace of mind without damning my neighbors. Thanks for your responses! Edit edit. I started reading some. My fucking lord you're some self righteous fucks who think because you have children, everyone else should and get it. I am a lesbian in her early 30s with no kids. The amount of you who are so self absorbed to think everyone else should suffer? Fuck off. Like I knew I felt bad. But damn. Yall turned that right around with 'if you were a parent, you'd get our struggle' Guess the fuck what? It's not my struggle. I chose not to have kids. Kick rocks. Edit edit edit . So we just found 2 German cockroaches for the first time the other night. One out of the heat, another within 15 minutes came at me from the drain when washing my hands. My neighbors are notorious for trash picking and not just bringing it on the property, but in our building in the basement. They resell for a side hustle. I knew this day was coming. I'll do a proper update in a month or two. Long short. The main reason we moved in with these land lords was their bug policy. They fix it, or they relocate us to a reasonably same apartment for the same rent. No questions asked. Looks like I won't have to bring the kid up anyway. And it's in the lease agreement. Fuck my downstairs neighbors. I'm fucking livid between the kid, and now this? Hell no. But the bug issue? That's 100% in the rental agreement. No if ands or buts about it. [Update](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zhg9z9/i_damn_near_hate_my_downstairs_neighors_autistic/) (10 Dec 22) **I damn near hate my downstairs neighors autistic child (Update)** So it's been over a year. Shit has gotten so much worse.  Anytime I've had company stay over night their vehicle has been fucked up. Whether it from their side mirrors being fucked up from apparent hanging on it and the motors no longer work, to the last time the kid was allowed to play with his sand and water on my friends car hood.  You can imagine the fucking damage.   But this wasn't the worst situation that has happened. Three weeks ago, my wife and I are generally asleep by 9pm, was kept awake around then by the worst metallic slamming we had ever heard.  Worse than pots and pans banging in our apartment. Went on for an hour. For the next 2 days I had the worst headaches ever.  If I opened my window next to me while I worked, it's go away.  You see where this is going. Two nights later were in bed. Fell asleep before 9pm.  We're woken up by slamming and our doorbell at 11pm.  This is unfortunately normal with the doorbell and the slamming wasn't even as loud as the kid normally is.  We assumed.  A few minutes later there's a spotlight in our bedroom window lighting our room up like fucking daytime. We rush and throw clothes on. I walked out of my mother fucking bedroom and BUMP INTO A FUCKING FIREMAN!  I am on the 3rd floor as our basement is ground level.  Also. My windowsill and wall got totally fucked up from him coming in my window.  Huge chuck taken out, cracks and dents in my wall now. Needless to say. It scared the living fuck out of us.  There was a gasleak in my downstairs neighbors apartment with their CO2 meters reading crazy high at our apartment door.   It sent an auto response (whatever the fuck you want to call it) to our fire department.   They had to be evacuated.  Their gas had to be shut off from a gas leak in their stove (shocker).  As soon as they stepped into our apartment the C02 readings dropped.  We keep a window cracked always and a towel under our front door to keep our air in.  They always leave the building door open and it pulls the hot/cold air out. The next day they're getting their stoves replaced.   A few days later after maintenance comes to make sure everything is up to code.  I asked what happened 'oh just a gas leak, we took care of it'. They were then here several days in a row working on their apartment. Getting it to code. Code is basic shit like smoke detectors, water pressure, leaks. While here I asked them 'Did you see what the fireman did to my wall and window sill?' Nope. No idea a fireman came through my window. I think this is a big fucking deal. Call me crazy. Neighbors played it down like no big deal.   Maintance guy was just stunned. And I mentioned and let him hear the video clip from the night that banging happened (fuck yes I record everything) He proceeded to explain about the mass water damage from their damaged tub they've fixed several times now that leaks into our basement, and the generally state of the property.  They also acknowledged there's now a rodent and bug problem.  This didn't exist 6 months ago.  They trash pick for a living. Store it in the building. For fucks sake. We're in suburbia and they trash picked a fucking chicken coop into our shared property. Who fucking does that. Let alone furniture stored in our shared basement. End of story.   They're officially getting evicted.   Between the constant maintenance requests for legitimate problems, loss of property value, now this with the stove.   They were already prepared to move us due to how disruptive the kid was.   This was the icing on the shit cake. We are also offered a different but better duplex for the same rent. I'm unsure if we'll take them up on it.   I love our kitchen. And genuinely like our home. Its them the problem. We'll see what's next.  But I expect a shit storm when they get their official eviction notice on Monday. But God damn. Am I not happy this is all coming to a close. **Reminder - I'm not the OOP**
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"2022-12-16T23:17:40"
OOP's boyfriend compares her to a used car
CONCLUDED
**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/force_queen in r/trueoffmychest** ---   [**Boyfriend used the 'used car analogy'**](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zghzbw/boyfriend_used_the_used_car_analogy/) - 9 December 2022 Me (24F) and my bf (22m) have been together for almost a year now. When we got together, he told me that he was a virgin, which is totally fine with me. I told him, I wasn't. That was the end of the conversation for a while. But whenever I mention an ex, or someone I used to sleep with, he gets uncomfortable and doesn't want to hear that. He has told me, he doesn't like hearing about my sexual past, and I respect that. Here is the thing thats been bothering me, the topic of past relations came up, and he asked me with how many men I've been with, before him. I said, around 5 or 6. And he was kind of relieved. I asked why, and he said that if it was more than 10 men, he would reconsider our relationship, because it mattered to him with how many men I've slept, before I even knew him. And he was going on, how there were studies showing that most men, thought the same. And how men were very territorial, and he then explained it to me, by using the used car analogy... (If a car is being passed down from owner to owner, you wouldn't want to have it anymore, because you dont know where its been and its been used so much.) I was speechless and couldnt help but laugh akwardly. I talked about it with some of my guy friends, and they were equally confused. Truth be told, those friends do not really like him, for his political views. (Those friends are mostly American, and me and bf are Dutch). I have not talked about it again with my bf, I’m not scared that he will get angry, but I am scared that this will cause a rift between us. I dont want to lose him, he is a very sweet and caring man. And I love him very much... Another reason why I haven’t talked to him about this yet, is we only see each other on the weekends. We call on Discord, but I’d rather have this conversation face to face. I don’t know what will happen, and I’m a bit scared... **UPDATE:** I have talked with my bf about it. He didn’t mean it towards me personally, he never wanted me to feel that way. The reason he used the 'car analogy', was because he was trying to explain the point he had. With something most people can relate to. I also explained to him, that it fucking sucks and hurts my feelings (and others) when compared to a object. He didn’t really realise I felt that way. When we had that conversation in the car, I was so shocked that he said that. That I couldn’t listen to him anymore about the topic, and he was kind of sad about that. He couldnt completely explain his point, because I stopped really listening. And we changed the topic at that point. He loves discussing and debating about things important to him, and Im the worst debater ever. Because of some things that happened in my childhood, I recently explained that better to him. And he understands it more, I've told him that this is a learning process for me. To be able to defend my argument without going into a full on fight, or shut down. Thanks for the people who commented on this, and showing me how some male brains work. And how this can really divide a group of people.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-17T00:57:58"
Found out my bestfriend's gf is hitting on my fiance. I don't know how to bring this up with them.
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"2022-12-17T01:33:31"
OP's mom is in a relationship with his high school bully.
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"2022-12-17T01:46:35"
Found out my bestfriend's gf is hitting on my fiance. I don't know how to bring this up with them.
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/antisocial113 in r/relationship_advice** ---   [**Found out my bestfriend's gf is hitting on my fiance. I don't know how to bring this up with them.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/rg5524/found_out_my_bestfriends_gf_is_hitting_on_my/) - 14 December 2021 On mobile. Excuse the formatting issues. My fiance(M28) and I(F26) have a beach vacation coming up. It was supposed to be us, my sister and her husband. Circumstances changed and they won't be joining us. But their tickets are non refundable do we decided to invite my bil's brother N(M27) (who has also been my best friend since we were toddlers) and his gf K(F27). We are all very close and hangout almost every week. We all have a group chat for the trip and K and I discuss girly stuffs privately. Last week K sent my SO some lingerie and bikni pics asking for his suggestion in his private chat. SO assumed she sent it to him accidentally instead of me and told her that. To which she said she wanted a "man's" opinion and my SO said he didn't really have any opinion and she should ask me or her bf. He then showed me the messages when we both got home from work . We both thought it was weird and just moved past it. ( Side note. She never sent me anything asking for my opinion even though a couple days later I asked for her opinion on some dresses) On sunday N & K came to our house for dinner and to discuss our upcoming trip. Everything went great. I got a video call from my sis and bil and I was talking to them in the balcony and N came to say hi to his brother. According to my SO when N left the room K brought up the pics and was asking him his opinion and even showed him pics of her in lingerie and some of them were VERY revealing. SO was cornered by her in the kitchen where he was clearing up some dishes. I called him from the balcony to participate in the VC since my sis had some news. This was when he was able to get away from her. If it's relevant, she was a bit drunk. My SO told me this after they left. I was (am) pissed at her. We both felt like all this happened too fast and there wasn't really any other signs. He also asked me to look through their chat to see if he was oblivious to her or something. There wasn't really much correspondence between them except the occasional confirming of plans. I don't really know how to approach this with N & K. I don't really want her on this trip if she's going to act like this and also SO is not at all comfortable with the idea. N is like a brother to me. I love him. I don't want this to destroy our friendship. Also given the situation he deserves a lot better. So reddit, what should I do? Tldr: bestfriend's gf is hitting on my SO. We have a vacation trip coming up.i don't know how to bring this up with them while also protecting my friendship.   [**(Update) Found out my bestfriend's gf is hitting on my fiance.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/rhpmzm/update_found_out_my_bestfriends_gf_is_hitting_on/) - 16 December 2021 I think this is how you update and link posts. I hope it works. Some of you wanted an update. So here it goes. My fiance and I took the afternoon off work to meet with N (bestfriend) for lunch yesterday. SO was running a bit late so I reached the restaurant first. N & I were catching up and he talked about how he misses hanging out just the two of us like when we were younger. I felt a bit guilty lying to him so I told him SO was joining in sometime as well. He started thanking me for inviting him on the trip. Apparently due to their conflicting schedules N and K weren't spending much time together and their relationship was tense. He said that this trip would be the best thing for them and he was really excited. SO arrived at the tail end of this conversation and I felt so so sad for N. I was almost ready to forego the confrontation altogether. We basically apologized to him and I told him that SO had something to say. SO told him about the messages and what happened in the kitchen. N was in disbelief?shock? But he was very quiet. He asked if we had the messages and SO showed him. Then N said "now it makes sense". We were confused and asked what he was talking about. Apparently when they left K was pretty drunk and whole drive home K was mumbling things like nobody wants me/likes me/loves me etc. And the last couple days after the incident she was acting strange the little time they spent together. We told him we are there for him obviously whatever he decides but that we don't feel comfortable having K on the trip but he is still welcome. He said he would be talking to K and letting us know but they won't be joining us on the trip. Tonight before work N stopped by our house and told us that he broke up with K. He said he found some things but wasn't ready to talk about it yet. Since they used to live together she couldn't move out anywhere immediately so N will be staying at our place for a while. Also both SO and I got an apology text from K. So I guess that's it. We are not really in the mood now for the trip but maybe it would be a good way to put this all behind. It might be selfish but I am just grateful that N & I's friendship is still going strong and that he trusts us to help him through the shit he's going through. Thank you to everyone for their advice.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-17T05:50:03"
AITA for refusing to pay my cousin's hospital bill?
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"2022-12-17T07:18:31"
AITA for not going to my sister's "child-free" wedding?
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"2022-12-17T09:31:00"
Neglectful moron alienates his daughter by trying to play dad
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"2022-12-17T11:05:28"
I found out I have a daughter who thinks I was her mother's rapist. It wasn't rape. What next?
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"2022-12-17T12:46:47"
OOP and her husband's threesome doesn't go as planned.
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I'm not the OOP. This was posted by u/seekinghelpcandy in r/nonmonogamy. [Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/nonmonogamy/comments/zacfd0/husband_feels_inferior_to_my_bull/) (2 Dec 22) **Husband feels inferior to my bull** This is not my usual account. My husband knows my account and he is on Reddit a lot. My husband (35M) told me (33F) about his hotwife kink about 5 years ago. He made it very clear it was hotwife, not cuckolding, he had no interest in humiliation or anything like that...just seeing me having sex. I thought it was really hot so we started doing it. We've had several bulls since. We always meet them together and our first time or two is always a threesome with my husband, the bull and I. About three months ago, we had a first sex date with a new bull. After drinks they took me to the bedroom and both started kissing my neck and removing my dress. After a bit of fooling around with the both of them, I started to give the bull some solo attention. After some head, he put me on the bed and started to give me some attention. Oh, my, god. It was the best sex I'd ever had. I came so many times and several times I came so hard my entire body was literally shaking. After we were finished I told him just how great he was, and that no one had ever made me cum like that. That's when I herd the door slam and I realized I'd completely forgotten about my husband. I ran out and tried to talk to him but he pulled away and just said he'd be in the car. When we got home from a very silent and uncomfortable car ride he grabbed a pillow and blanket and went to the basement. The next day we tried to talk it out, but I could tell he was still really upset. Finally after a month we had sex again. It didn't feel right. After a long talk, he said he wanted to give me the kind of pleasure that the bull had. We had another couple of awkward sex sessions so I tried to fake it, hoping I could snap him out of his funk. He knew I faked it and it really upset him. We've barely spoken since. I try to talk to him, but he seems very cold toward me. What do I do. I didn't mean to hurt him. I don't want him any less than I ever did. I just don't know what to do. [Update](https://www.reddit.com/r/nonmonogamy/comments/zh7tzz/update_my_husbands_reason_he_is_upset_with_me/) (10 Dec 22) **Update: My husband's reason he is upset with me made me...Angry.** Several days ago I posted because I felt I made a mistake that hurt my husband. I had been drinking and we had a threesome with a guy. Well, the guy was amazing. Unfortunately he blew my circuits and I kinda forgot about my husband. You can go back and look at the post if you want the long details. Well, I finally got him to sit down and talk so we could work things out. I explained how terrible I felt about how things had happened, that despite how great he was in bed, that it would never make me dissatisfied with him, that nothing could ever come close to everything else we have together. He was just silent. He wasn't responding so I exasperatedly pushed him to talk tome me about it. He finally broke and started on an angry tirade. It was me asking why he wanted me to do it that he finally spoke. He almost yelled that this was supposed to be him showing me off, showing other guys what he had, that they couldn't. I was shocked, I was like, wait I'm not supposed to get off. I again tried to explain that me getting off didn't mean I didn't love him or that he wasn't satisfying me. This time he did yell. He said something like I watched you, I saw how he made you cum. You've never cum like that with me. If you really loved me there's no way another man could do that to you. Then he went off again about how he was supposed to be showing other guys what was his that they couldn't have, and that since I loved it so much, they obviously could have it. That's when I realized, I was just some trophy or prize he was trying to lord over other men. I've never felt so much like just a piece of meat. This whole time I thought I'd hurt him by betraying him in some way, but no, he's just mad that his ego got bruised because he thought "his" prize could be someone else's. I thought we were doing something we were both supposed to get off on, but I now know, I was never supposed to enjoy it. I'm not sure what to do with this. He has NEVER acted like he could ever think of me in such a degrading way. Am I overreacting? **Reminder - I'm not the OOP**
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"2022-12-17T12:59:20"
OOP and her stepchildren, a tale told in two AITA posts
INCONCLUSIVE
**I am NOT OP. Original posts from r/AITA** These two AITA posts are snapshots of a larger story. I think they’re both interesting on their own, and each influences how I feel about the other. I’ve done some minor editing in the posts, adding line breaks and such along with a number of comments. No particular trigger warnings, but tell me if I’m wrong about that. I’ll add warnings if that’s needed. mood spoilers: >!Uncertain. OOP seems more hopeful than I am.!< ---   [AITA for not allowing my stepdaughter over for a while?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i2582ur/) - Eight months ago - Link is to the automod summary, as the post is deleted.   Background\* I have two stepdaughters (13 & 17). I love them both but the 13yo and I just don’t get along. She’s very mouthy, thinks house rules do not apply to her, never cleans up after herself, and she is such a bully to her older sister. My best friend came from across the county to visit me and she was around my stepdaughter for 3 hours and was already irritated with her. That’s how overwhelming she can be. My hubby turns a blind eye to her behavior because he just wants to be the “fun” dad. He feels like because they don’t come over a lot, when they do it should be fun fun fun and no boundaries. I never really pushed the issue with her, when she’s over I’d just avoid her as much as possible for the sake of having peace. Her disrespect was never directed at me so I just left it alone or I’d mention it to my hubby and he’d just tell me she’s just playing or she didn’t mean it like that. This past weekend, apparently I sent her home crying because she tried to be disrespectful to me and I snapped back at her after holding it in for almost a year and basically told her she’s not going to talk to me any kind of way and if she’s going to come over she needs to learn how to be respectful like the rest of the children in the home. My oldest SD jumped in telling SD13 to stop being disrespectful and calm down and she went into her bully ways and yelling at her and just making a huge scene. So I put my foot down with hubby and told him, he needs to do his visitation her at her home for a while because I can’t take another weekend of pure hell from her. Every week it gets worse because he won’t correct her. We got a text from BM saying I made her cry and I was out of line for yelling at her and she doesn’t want to come back over. In my head I’m relieved I get a break from her and then the other side of my feels like TA for not walking away and letting her dad handle it but then again, his way of handling it is coddling her and telling her everything is going to be okay. Everyone else would be at fault but her. In a nutshell, the whole thing was over me not letting my SD17 drive them to Dunkin’ Donuts at 8pm. She thought throwing a tantrum would make me say yes. AITA for making hubby go to their house for visitation until her behavior is corrected? My SD17 still comes over because she wants too.   Verdict: ESH, with NTA a strong second.   Some comments by OOP in that post that add context:   [OOP, on her younger stepdaughter](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i25dnjt/): > She has a sense of entitlement about her that irks me lol Mainly because she’s my husbands golden child (she’s the only biological girl of his, his other is adopted by him). > When I came into the picture I pointed out to him that he shows a lot of favoritism to her. He’s gotten a lot better at hiding it but it created a monster in her. She follows no rules in this house and never has. She told my husband to his face she does what she wants because he doesn’t care lol > Don’t get me wrong she’s a typical teenager so I know this comes with the territory but she two parents who think her behavior is cute and her mom loves that it drives me nuts.   Commenter: > May I ask why would you stay in this relationship because I really don't see your husband changing the way he is now with his daughter nor do I see her changing. I'm not being mean or anything but why put up with it [OOP](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i25ft9i/): > I was going through nursing school and we have a 1 year old together. So leaving at the time wasn’t an option but I graduated and I can afford to leave with my kiddos. This was my final straw and hopefully he sees that I am seriously over her behavior and it needs to change or I’m leaving.   [OOP](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i25gg8q/): > I’m in my 20s for one. Two, when we got together his children lived in another state so I didn’t officially meet them in person until 3 years into our relationship. So no I didn’t know what I was getting into. I knew he was a very involved father but I didn’t know he was allowing all of this.   Commenter: > Now don't shoot me but your SD is of your husband's makings as well as her bio mom. The real person that needs to change is your husband it's not SD that really needs all the blame here her bio parents your husband and his ex is by far more responsible because of how they are with her [OOP](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i25gqm2/): > Yes, I agree with that statement. In order for him to change, he has to recognize the issue. Their dynamic is not of a parent and child. They have a friendship dynamic and he doesn’t realize it.   [OOP, asked if there was an age gap in her marriage](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i25jvqg/): > Yes, there is a 10 year age gap. I’m 28 and [my husband is] 38   [OOP](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i25uf14/): > I don’t want to abandon any child. Im all for staying in my marriage if my spouse put his child in her place so we can all live in harmony again. > But if you’re wondering if I’ll choose my peace over my SD…..my peace. Sorry not sorry. I love them dearly but I love me more   Commenter: > That is reasonable, you can chose you. But as a father your husband needs to chose his child, not his wife. If you are not prepared for him to chose his kid over you, you should walk away. He has an obligation to his daughter. You divorce wives, not children. She has to come first and in the end, if he is really as involved as you said, she will. Are you prepared for when he does? [OOP](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i25v9tp/): > If you’ve read my other comments, I’ve already said he can choose her. > However, my personal opinion is i will always prioritize my spouse over my kids. Both are important and I will never starve my kids for the sake of my husband having the last bite of food but our kids grow up and leave. Your spouse is with you for life. Sure he can divorce me but when his daughter grows up and finds her a husband, you think she’s going to prioritize her dad? No and at the point he will realize he shouldn’t allowed his child to come between him and his wife. > I don’t have these issues with my bio kids but my kids are taught to respect all adults.   [OOP, on her younger stepdaughter](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i26oyge/): > She loves comes over because she likes to spend time with her siblings she doesn’t see everyday. She comes over because we don’t just sit in the house every weekend and be boring. She comes over because she and I have a great relationship . My SD13 and I didn’t have a terrible relationship prior to this argument. Everyone is taking my “I avoid her” comment way too far. I avoid her when she start exhibiting bad behavior because if I deal with it it will stir up a lot of drama with her mother. That’s an uphill battle I’m not willing to fight.   Commenter: > Could it be that she has trauma and resentment from the divorce? > She hasn't seen her father in 3 years or more. Maybe there's some jealousy too? > What did you husband tell you about visitation outside of the home? [OOP](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/tocx2m/deleted_by_user/i274yay/): > I don’t think so. He’s been in the military her whole life shes use to him not around for long periods at a time. There divorce was somewhat civil and the kids were well prepared before it even happened. > It could be though but I’m not picking up the vibes that that’s the reason. I think her behavior is simply because she allowed too. I’ve had conversations with her and she’s always jokingly said her dad doesn’t care. So that’s her way of telling me she’s doing it because she can.   The second post: [AITA for giving away my step kids Disney tickets away?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zg70sn/aita_for_giving_away_my_step_kids_disney_tickets/) - Eight days ago, Friday December 9^th 2022   Two months ago I told my oldest SD18 I needed to her request this weekend off because we were celebrating our Xmas and the boys birthdays. I even texted their mother and made arrangements for my youngest SD14 and she act like she was on board with it. We have this ongoing issue with my step kids about them only coming over when we are doing something fun, every time we try to get them and just spend time with them at the house they make up every excuse in the book why they cannot come. I purposely did not tell them or my kids what the plans were this weekend. SD18 couldn’t get off of work so I told her it’s cool we will do something for her later on, no big deal in understand how it is working retail during the holidays. Today I texted their mother to confirm if SD14 were coming over tomorrow and she said SD14 had a long week and was really emotional and did not want to go to our house without her older sister (total BS, she doesn’t even like her sister like that and she’s been to our house plenty of times without her sister) just another excuse on why she cannot come. Mind you, it’s my hubby court ordered weekend with her anyways. We don’t make her come over so we just get her whenever she wants to come over. So I texted their mom back and said “no big deal, we will do something else with them another time” So SD18 texted me a little while ago asking what were doing and told her we are spending the weekend at Disney and another event. I told her so she wouldn’t be surprised when photos are posted this weekend Now all of she wants to call out of work and my other SD14 wants to come without her sister now lol I told them “I’m sorry I gave the boys friends those tickets because y’all didn’t want to come over” (I really did) so now they are pissed off and apart of me doesn’t feel bad for SD14. SD18 is understandable because she actually has a good excuse but I do not want her calling out because she’s on the verge of getting fired already for her attendance. Hubby wants to cave in and let her come but I don’t want too because I’m over her only wanting to see us when we’re spending money on her. I want this too be a lesson to SD14 and he doesn’t see it that way. I gave her an opportunity to come and she didn’t want too sooooo…..🤷🏽‍♀️ AITA? ETA: before anyone says I’m being unfair to my SK, I treat my BIO kids the same way. My oldest had his fair share of missing out on events. He knows better now lol when I say get in the car and let’s go, don’t question it 😂 just get in ETA: it’s not a game I’m playing. Over the years I just got tired of feeling used. The only time they want to come over is when we’re doing something or they want something. That’s why I stopped telling them what we were doing. My husband is cheap and doesn’t care for fun things. I plan and pay for just about everything we do that’s “fun” we all have a good relationship and they are growing older and they rather be with friends so we are trying to give them the space to do that but before SD18 got a job, we would try to plan things with them, my kids included, and it just became a “can we go here instead” and complaining about everything so that’s why now if I want to do something I don’t tell them plans, I just ask them if they are coming and if they don’t then they stay home. All of the kids are in different age groups so I try to plan things for each child and invite the others but that’s been extremely difficult because of the complaining.   Verdict: NTA.   Two comments with answers by OOP adding important clarifying information:   Commenter: > INFO: who purchased the tickets for the girls? [OOP](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zg70sn/aita_for_giving_away_my_step_kids_disney_tickets/izg89xr/): > Me   Commenter, retrieved via Unddit: > [quoting OOP] has a good excuse but I do not want her calling out because she’s on the verge of getting fired already for her attendance. > Then why did you even plan for SD18 to go on a trip with you that would need her to call of work at all. [OOP](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zg70sn/aita_for_giving_away_my_step_kids_disney_tickets/izggtb5/): > I asked her to request off, not call off. Which is why I gave her two month notice   A final update to the second post, a summary of where things are and the last we’ve heard from OOP. It was made as an edit to the second linked post, but it felt worth separating out:   Update: a lot of people are talking about my previous post and think I “have it out for SD14” I don’t. We had issues blending and most of our issues was rooted from BIO mom feeding the kids lies. Hubby went to spend time with SD14 during the “kicked out” period and he had a talk with her about her behavior (FINALLY) after he realized that I was fed up with it and was willing to break apart the whole family if he could not put his foot down with her and BIO moms BS. He also submitted screenshots to his lawyer from SD14 phone while she was texting her mom and mom encouraging her to be rude towards me. The lawyer contacted hers and they had it out. BIO mom agreed to stop speaking negatively about me to the children otherwise we were going to file contempt and since then her attitude has been 1000000% better. I also think her mother is getting over her bitter feelings towards me because I was able to coordinate this trip with her without it being a bloodbath (the reason I asked her instead of hubby was because he would wait until the last min to ask and I needed to buy tickets, etc) Also, I think she realized she and my hubby created a monster because for a period of time she wanted her to come to live with us because she couldn’t handle her attitude and they were fighting a lot. But all and all, we are in a better place now. When she does come around the way she treats her older sister isn’t that bad anymore. We both apologized to each other but I also stood firm on the consequences of her being disrespectful towards anyone in the home. Now that my hubby is actually backing me up and she realized that we are the same page it hasn’t been an issue. She does have some other behaviors that bother me but I’m learning to pick and choose my battles. She doesn’t like coming over because there isn’t much to do. We live in the country and she’s a city girl 🤦🏽‍♀️   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.** A note, speaking for myself: You can find a wall of text I commented in the second thread. I still feel conflicted about these posts, and I’m not sure I stand by all of it. Edit: Added the AITA verdicts.
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"2022-12-17T14:33:28"
OOP's boyfriend of 4 years is gay and she found out her relationship is a lie
CONCLUDED
*\*\*I am NOT OOP. Original post by* [*u/Spirited-Passage5477*](https://www.reddit.com/user/Spirited-Passage5477/) *in* [*r/TrueOffMyChest*](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/) *and* *some revenge subs* ​ *\*\*Original Post and update in the same link. The same post was made in different subs, one reproduced below is more detailed. Link to one other post:* [*LINK - NuclearRevenge*](https://www.reddit.com/r/NuclearRevenge/comments/zf3za4/use_me_cheat_on_me_enjoy_losing_your_friends_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) *(rest were removed, or reproduced but no engagement)* ​ *Trigger warnings:* >!Infidelity, vandalism!< ​ # I hate people that lie about they're sexuality [[LINK - TrueOffMyChest](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zf3q79/i_hate_people_that_lie_about_theyre_sexuality/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)] - December 07, 2022 ​ I just found out 2 days ago that my boyfriend of 4 years is gay. Our relationship was a lie. He used me to cover his sexuality because he wasn't ready to expose himself (he told me that himself). He pretended to love me for 4 years. He acted like the perfect boyfriend for 4 years. We were discussing marriage and kids. He even took me to looking at engagement rings..... All while he was having an affair with a man. To top all that, his boy toy called me 2 hours after i walked in on them. Why? To tell me that he was bi and we could all just be together... Are you kidding me? Idk he was making fun of me or if he was really stupid enough to think that was a good idea. But yeah. If you're gay but act straight i f'ing hate you. What's worse is that my family believes i should have been nicer to him because "gay people have it rough enough already". So because he's gay then i can't be mad? I can't be angry? I need to be nicer? To him? F this. ​ *Some comments (from both posts):* >[*(NuclearRevenge)*](https://www.reddit.com/r/NuclearRevenge/comments/zf3za4/comment/iza2r13/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I actually thought about it this past days. Part of the "how did i not notice" rush of thoughts i had. So, he didn't really like having to touch my 🐈 but i didn't think much of it since there's straight guys that are happy with eating out a girl . If he was repulsed by it idk. He didn't show it. I will say that he would constantly ask if we could do an\*l but again many people want to try this so it wasn't a red flag at that time. He wasn't bad at and he did try to make me orgasm. His sex drive was pretty low but once again it's not uncommon to have a low sex drive. He wasn't very happy with position in wich he could see my face so now that makes sense. > >[*(TrueOffMyChest)*](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zf3q79/comment/izaad0f/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) He always knew he was gay. I wasn't something he discovered while being with me and he admitted that he was only with me to covered up he was gay. On top of that he cheated. If would have sat me down and told me he found out he was gay and wanted to end things i would have any issues with him. But lied to me for 4 years. He lied about loving me. He pretend he wanted to marry me and have kids with me. Add the cheating to that as well. > >[*(TrueOffMyChest)*](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zf3q79/comment/izas51z/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) He always knew he was gay. He admitted he used me for cover. He wasn't attracted to me. He never initiated any sexual activity and we did have sex he didn't like touching me and his fav positions were positions in wich my face wasn't visible. He never wasn't attracted to me at all. Again he admitted he knew he was gay from the start and dated me to cover that in the public eye > >[*(TrueOffMyChest)*](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zf3q79/comment/izab4yh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) > >>when he figured it out. > >He always knew. > >>Why did he lie? > >He said he wasn't ready to be publicly gay > >>Was it because he didn't want to lose all his friends for being gay? Because his family would shun him all kinds of ways? B > >His friends and family members are advocating for gay rights. His cousin is lesbian. 2 guys in his friend group are bi and 1 in trans so this isn't the case ​ # 1st Update / Edit in the same post: Edit to add some extra info: After his boy toy called i texted my now ex if he was seriously making fun of me and he just said that it wouldn't be a bad idea. So i lost it. His mom and i were very close so i texted her a lengthy message explaining what happened and i told her that i can't stay in contact with her at least not for the time being. She was shocked but understanding of why i need to go NC. Well, his parents disowned him. Not for being gay but because of what he did to me. The idiot went on social media to complain that his parents disowned him for being gay but multiple family members commented and exposed him for the shitty human being that he is. Some of his co workers had him on fb and Tik Tok and they saw everything and now no one at work talks to him because of what he did to me. His friends were disgusted when they found out. His friends always liked me and they're also really big on monogamy so they didn't want to be friends after they learned the truth. He needs to move out because we lived together and now he can't afford rent on his own but his budget is very tight so he doesn't have many options. AND! They "broke up". My ex had a fit when his mom called him. In retaliation he broke the TV, my laptop, cut some of the clothes i still had at the apartment and smashed the coffee machine. So yeah, his boy toy didn't like his outburst and he cut all ties with him ​ # 2nd Update / Edit in the same post: Update: I want to start by saying i wrote this post in a state of anger and i was too emotional to realize how bad it sounded. I do not hate gay people. I have no problems with the community. I'm sorry if i came off as a homophobic bitch. I really am not. I was just emotional so i will like to apologize. I understand the community is going thru a lot and i didn't want to come out as insensitive. So I'm sorry. Now the actual update. I received some comments and PMs from people that advised me to get a restraining order and make sure he can't find me , i unfortunately didn't consider them enough and as some predicated he followed me from my bff's place to the grocery store and he trashed my car. I'm talking slashed tires, broken widows and what i think it's oil all over my car. Thankfully the parking lot has cameras and the police identified him in no time. He was arrested. I am definitely filling for a restraining order and I'm looking to move to a different city. I will have to see him again in the court room tho. Also, his ex boy toy agreed to testify that he witness my ex breaking my things at the apartment. My ex is also going to be examined by a professional due to his actions it appears he may be suffering from some mental illnesses. I've contacted his parents and they are in shock but they still refuse to have any contact with him. Lastly, thank you for the support and to the people that shared similar stories, I'm sorry you've experienced that but also thank you because somehow knowing I'm not the only one that's experiencing this really helps. A lot of people have advised me to see a therapist to help with the trauma and i will do that. And of courses, to the people that used the gay card as a way to justify his actions i want to know if you would feel the same if he saw straight. He lied and manipulated me for 4 years. He cheated on me. He pretended to love me and want a family with me. He had no problem admitting he used me as a cover up. He thought is would be ok to suggest we (me, my ex and his lover) just date each other. He destroyed my belongings. You can't justify this by saying he's gay. So y'all can go shake hands with my parents. Be aware of the 7 years old German shepherd tho. He doesn't like strangers. Btw those that claim my story is fake i suggest you look in the comments to see how many other people have shared similar experiences. Oh and please don't ever suggest to someone to have a relationship with their cheating exs and the affair partner. Really not cool. Idk how can someone think it's ok to suggest his boy toys proposal was something to actually consider. I am going to get tested for STDs tomorrow! I put this in comments but I'm going to write it here too: his family and friends are advocating for gay rights so he wasn't hiding from them! Thank you for reading this. Edit: PLEASE STOP ASKING IF I'M LOOKING FOR A NEW BOYFRIEND! ​ *\*\*Reminder - I am not the original poster*
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"2022-12-17T14:45:49"
OOP asks if she is TA for introducing her bf's parents as "Grandma and Grandpa" to her son
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*\*\*I am NOT OOP. Original post by* [*u/Character\_Bed\_1205*](https://www.reddit.com/user/Character_Bed_1205/) *in* [*r/AmItheAsshole*](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/) ​ # AITA for introducing my boyfriend's parents as "Grandma and Grandpa" to my son? [[LINK - AITA](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/z64yd5/aita_for_introducing_my_boyfriends_parents_as/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)] - November 27, 2022 ​ This last Thursday I (29 F) went over to my boyfriend "Jay's" (25 M) house for thanksgiving and brought my son (4) with me. I and Jay have been together for a year and a half now, and he is the most amazing man in the world. He's been amazing with my son (his bio father is not in his life) and I can genuinely see him as "the one". Jay's parents came over as well. It's not that I don't get along with them, it's just I have only ever seen them 3 times before this thanksgiving. I have not had any time to really bond with them I guess. They had never met my son in person either, but they both knew about him. By the time I arrived Jay's parents were already there and helping him finish up dinner. We greeted each other and Jay's dad asked "And who's this little guy." I introduced them to my son and then introduced Jay's parents as "Grandma and Grandpa" to my precious boy. I didn't notice at the time, but all three of them became quiet almost immediately. I ended up waiting in the living room alone for almost half an hour before dinner and things just were incredibly awkward for the rest of the night. My son did end up calling his parents by grandpa and grandma and I quickly noticed both of them would be very disingenuous and awkward about it over dinner but they did not say anything to me about it. They didn't stick around for long after either but when they left both were very cold to me. I asked Jay what was their deal and he lost it at me. He claims I put him in an incredibly awkward position. His parents apparently didn't think we were "That serious" yet and began to question him if I was only using him as a "replacement daddy." He said that it was way out of line to introduce them that way without even talking to him beforehand. I think it's ridiculous. If one day he's going to be my son's stepdad then why go through this formal nonsense? He claimed that's "Not the point" and we ended up fighting till I stormed out. We have not talked since and I have simply been waiting for an apology. I talked with my sister about it last night and she said she was mortified to hear this. Saying she also didn't geat the read that we were all that serious and she never felt like Jay intended to take on a "Dad" role. This has got me questioning if I was wrong. ​ *Verdict: Asshole* ​ *Comments* >[1.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/z64yd5/comment/ixzf1ev/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I wish his parents had at least come up to talk, you know? It would have made things less awkward. > >[2.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/z64yd5/comment/ixzff7m/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I and Jay have never really sat down and talked about this I guess. He's always been so amazing with my son though, that I just kind of assumed he was going to take on that role once we got engaged. My sister though says that Jay's never given off that vibe to her. I plan to have that conversation with him immediately. > >[3.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/z64yd5/comment/ixzfog6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Jay's always been so amazing with my son though. It might not be a "Dad" relationship by name, but my son loves Jay with all his heart, and Jay's never given any indication he's not ok with this. We never sat down and talked about it, sure, but he never said anything else. I really regret doing this now though > >[4.](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/z64yd5/comment/ixzzob1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) I know now in retrospect how bad it looks. But I genuinely thought that Jay was fine with it. My son sees him as basically his father figure even though we don't live together yet. Jay has been nothing but an angel to my son as well, so I guess I misread the entire situation. > >I feel panicky now. Because I know I messed up badly. I probably ruined my relationship with his parents and from what my sister told me, I'm guessing Jay may not have seen my son as his own..... > >I really don't know how to fix this now.... ​ *Updates (Edits) within the post:* edit: Ok, I messed up. I genuinely thought Jay would be ok with this. Jay has always treated my son so well, I guess I misread treating him kindly as being ok with being his father figure. I'm pretty sure I ruined this for myself, but most importantly I hurt my son through all this. Edit 2: I called Jay and apologized. We're going to be taking a break. I'm going to look into making sure I didn't scar my kid with this. ​ # Update: AITA for introducing my boyfriend's parents as "Grandma and Grandpa" to my son? [[Link - AITA](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zi00fp/update_aita_for_introducing_my_boyfriends_parents/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)] - December 10, 2022 ​ People still seemed interested in my post about introducing my boyfriend Jay's parents to my son as "grandma" and "grandpa." I thought I would update everyone on what happened. Immediately when I realized I was in the wrong, I called Jay and apologized for what happened. He told me he needed some space and wanted to take a break. I ended up calling his mother as well and apologized profusely. His mother forgave me and after I explained my reasoning said she didn't hold it against me. However, in retrospect, I think she was only being nice to me knowing her son was going to end the relationship. Speaking of, Jay ended the relationship. I decided to take the advice given here about sitting down with jay and getting on the same page about our relationship. I also saw some of the comments here about taking a break = relationship ended, so I called Jay and told him that I wanted to talk sooner rather than later about this. We met yesterday, and while I feel our talk went well, It was really obvious to me that Jay was done with the relationship. He said that, while he always knew that me and my son were a packaged deal, he had not decided at that point if he was truly going to take on the "dad" role for my son. He felt like my interpreting his niceness and acceptance of my son as a fatherly role was a red flag for him overall, especially because we had never talked about it at all. He said that the real problem he had was me deciding that his parents were grandma and grandpa, without even talking to him about it. My original refusal to apologize and expecting him to as well were part of it as well. There are other things he brought up that I feel are beyond this issue anyway, so I'm going to leave them out. Many of the criticisms left on my original post lined up with what he said, so I can really say for certain I messed up big time. I apologized, But I knew there was really no hope of saving this so I didn't push when he said he felt like we should end the relationship. Overall, my last post made me realize that I really need to work on my own expectations for my partner and how he will fit into my son's life. I also really need to work on my own communication skills. ​ ​ *\*\*Reminder - I am not the original poster*
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"2022-12-17T16:46:08"
My wife called chickens stupid f*cks
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"2022-12-17T17:09:01"
AITA for refusing to cry in front of my GF? + UPDATES
REPOST
**I am NOT OP. Original post by** u/aitacrybaby **in** r/AmItheAsshole   [**AITA for refusing to cry in front of my GF?**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/ii3ce2/aita_for_refusing_to_cry_in_front_of_my_gf/) \- 28th August 2020 I'm a 22 y/o man raised by a very traditional single dad. Among the many ideals my dad instilled into me was that crying was a sign of weakness in men, so, most of the time, my dad would reprimand me if I came to him crying. It'd range from small things, like spilling juice on my pants to being bullied at school. He said "if you're breaking down about these issues, you're never going to make it in life." I would hide my tears like an alcoholic would hide booze, and, eventually, I grew up to be the "strong silent" type in school and in adulthood. If being emotional meant hurting myself or someone else, it seemed better to just not show them at all. Fast forward a few years. I have this GF, Katie, that I'd been seeing for a few months. Most girls were turned off by me being so reserved, but Katie had this talent for seeing that I wasn't just mean or cold to people. I was hurting. She treated me like a decent human, so I did my best to be a gentleman to her while still staying reserved. My dad told me it was important that a man never let his own feelings keep him from protecting and being respectful to women. About a week ago, Katie called saying her mom died in the hospital due to complications from the Rona, and asked me to come to the funeral (her body was cremated to avoid attendees getting sick.) Now, I never knew what having a mom was like, so as the preacher described Katie's mom during the sermon, it sounded like everything I wished I had as a kid. Someone who was gentle and nurturing, who'd understand my feelings rather than criticize them, someone who'd let me cry on their shoulder like I'd done for Katie many times. It was overpowering. I felt the tears coming on, and Katie looked at me in surprise. By force of habit, I didn't dare let myself cry. I took a deep breath, swallowed the lump in my throat, and just gave Katie another hug. After the service, I drove Katie home. It was pretty quiet until, out of nowhere, she went OFF on me. She said I cared more about looking like a "macho man" who didn't cry than letting her know how I felt. She said things like "I'm sorry your dad is stuck in the stone age," and "I've opened up to you so much, but you never do the same for me!" and "Is your male ego really that fragile?!" I just said, "Enough." or "Please stop." But she wouldn't. Normally, I'm not fazed by someone berating me (thank you, dad,) but after a while, I couldn't take it anymore. I just let her vent at me until I stopped at her house, and said, cold as ice, "Get. out." She seemed to get the hint that I was pissed, and ran in her apartment like a scared child. Now, IDK if what I did was right anymore. It's become a habit of mine to avoid showing vulnerability, but maybe Katie has a point about having a "male ego," whatever that means. AITA for refusing to cry in front of her? ​ **Verdict - No A-holes here (NAH)**  ​ [**UPDATE**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/ir5kyz/update_aita_for_refusing_to_cry_in_front_of_my_gf/) \- 12th September 2020 Thank you all very much for your feedback in the original post. There were a variety of perspectives on this, but the general consensus seems to be that, while I'm NTA, it is bad for our relationship if I keep bottling up. You're right; it's not fair to me or Katie if she's looking for someone to relate to, and I refuse to give that to her, especially not when she's grieving. Also, thank you for being sympathetic with Katie's plight. She's apologized for lashing out; she was just acting out of grief, not out of spite or a need to control me. Well, the situation has turned into one of the most profound moments of my life. As we were making amends, Katie gave me a copy of her mom's funeral on video. We both watched it together, and, this time, I found the courage to cry for the first time in 7 1/2 years. Hearing everyone describe Katie's mom had tapped into my inner child; the sad, lonely little boy longing for the warmth and affection that he didn't get from his only parent. Katie, despite her own grief, showed me nothing but kindness throughout my mental breakdown. All this time, I'd been seeing my own feelings as being invalid compared to hers. Katie just said, "my mom always made me feel safe whenever I was sad; now I wanna do the same for you." Bless her heart. Now, our relationship is stronger than ever. We're both looking after each other, but also seeking our own means of support to avoid being too dependent. I've finally started on my long overdue journey toward healing from my trauma, and improving my mental health. I never would've reached this milestone if it weren't for the kind people of Reddit. I started from having no other outlet to having more options toward bettering myself than ever. Thank you all very much.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-17T17:36:16"
AITA for not wanting to get rid of my gang tattoos for my daughter's sake?
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by** u/diddiop **in** r/AmItheAsshole   [**AITA for not wanting to get rid of my gang tattoos “for the sake of my daughter”?**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/dm7xx6/aita_for_not_wanting_to_get_rid_of_my_gang/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) \- 24th October 2019 I spent 7 years in prison and I got out three years ago. I’m now 30. I was a criminal and a horrible person. I did a lot of fucked up stuff, most of it related to my gang. I currently have a two year old daughter, Mia. Me and the mom aren’t married but we share custody of Mia. When Mia was born, I was already halfway out the door of the gang and the birth of Mia gave me the push I needed. I moved away with Mia and her mom and we tried our best to start over. I love Mia with all my heart. She saved my life. I have a lot of gang related tattoos. And I do mean a lot. They are pretty prominently displayed on me and are noticeable. Mia’s mother has been after me to get rid of them or cover them up with other tattoos. The thing is, I don’t think I want to do that. It’s not that I’m proud of them, or like them, it’s that they remind me of how far I’ve come and I don’t want to forget it. I don’t want to forget what happened. I don’t think I should get to just forget it like that. I eventually broke down and told her this after she asked me again yesterday about it. She got super upset with me and said that I needed to do it for the “sake of our daughter” and that if I didn’t then that meant I missed “the life.” She also said that I was putting my daughter in danger because somebody could recognize my tattoos and cause trouble for me. I told her I haven’t been in that life for years and that it’s unfair for her to say that as she knows that I love Mia. I’m honestly conflicted. I’ve gone back and forth about what to do with my tattoos and I thought that I had reached a reasonable decision. AITA?   **Verdict - Asshole \[YTA\]**   [**UPDATE**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/fpyoee/update_aita_for_not_wanting_to_get_rid_of_my_gang/) \- 27th March 2020 I listened to what everyone told me and one person in particular who suggested that I get Mia to draw something to cover up some of my tattoos. Well I got her to do that and I covered up some of the most significant ones with her drawings. They have all turned out beautifully and I’m so grateful for the idea. I’m working on incorporating my remaining tattoos into a new design, as other people also suggested. I’m also trying to work through the existing feelings I have regarding my old gang. Mia’s mother has been very supportive regarding all this and our relationship has been a work in progress to. It’s been a work in progress but seeing my tattoos turn into something I love has been a very cathartic experience. Thanks all.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-17T18:15:51"
AITA for refusing to pay my cousin's hospital bill?
CONCLUDED
**I am not OOP. OOP is** [u/Throwawaytgiving](https://www.reddit.com/user/Throwawaytgiving/). She posted in [r/AmItheAsshole](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/). Short and sweet! Your daily fun fact to prevent mobile spoilers: [u/Valenshyne](https://www.reddit.com/u/Valenshyne/) wanted a fun fact about goats. (I decided I'd give two.) Their milk is the most popular milk in the world, and according to Ethiopian legend, goats were the ones to discover coffee! ([Goat Picture](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/177369626/photo/funny-goat-puts-out-its-tongue.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=YlmA4-C8o5XFsoYMLK-VBnhQku1tmeBm7DJBkrzJuGw=), [Source](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/61542/15-amazing-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-goats), #8 and #13) **Trigger Warning:** >!Allergic reaction!< **Mood Spoiler:** >!Uncle comes in clutch!< **Original** [Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zhlxwf/aita_for_refusing_to_pay_my_cousins_hospital_bill/)**: December 10, 2022** Throwaway because reasons and I'm on mobile. A few years ago I (32F) took over my mom's portion of the family annual Thanksgiving host rotation. It's a fun event because I get to see family I generally don't see the rest of the year and I love hosting. It is semi-potluck and I make a point of asking about allergies and food preferences. This year my cousin(36M) told me he was joining with his new wife (they got married in July) and her daughter, who is around 8. Cousin was added to the group chat and didn't say anything about allergies/preferences when asked. Forward to Thanksgiving. One of the desserts I made was peanut butter cookies. My family and I love them. Cousin's SD ate one and is allergic to peanuts. I had no idea and would never have made them if I knew. Husband and I took them to a stand alone ER that was about 5 minutes from the house. We stayed with them for some time until she was transferred to the local hospital where she stayed overnight. She ended up being fine. Last week I got a text from cousin with a pic of the hospital bill. He wanted to know how I wanted to handle it. I called and he and wife expect us to pay the bill. I told him we weren't going to do that. I reminded him that he had told me nobody had allergies, and hubby and I did pay the copay at the ER ($500) because we felt bad. He had an argument and now the family is involved. They're mostly on my side but some are getting into me for having anything peanut related cause "everybody" has peanut allergies nowadays. The bill is about $6k. We don't have it. The $500 we paid came out of our Christmas budget. I feel bad his SD got sick. Ultimately tho it's their responsibility to handle things like this. AITA for refusing to pay? EDIT: I will not call CPS! Please stop suggesting this. It's not going to happen. ***OOP is voted NTA.*** **Update 1: Same Post** Showed the bill to a friend, who helped me understand that this is the TOTAL bill, not what is owed privately. Also, I called Uncle (cousin's dad). Uncle wasn't at the event and has been rather silent in this matter. I learned that cousin hasn't shared that A) nobody shared allergy issues and B) that we paid the initial copay. Uncle is now upset. I have been told not to worry my pretty little head and he will have a chat with his son. If anybody needs me, I'll be sitting at my desk doing my best Mr. Burns imitation. **Update 2: Same post, 14 hours later** Uncle just texted me with the following: "I called my son and told him he needs to leave you alone and take responsibility for his mistakes. Then I called his mother and told her she needs to get a handle on that namby-pamby boy of hers. Don't you worry about a thing." I have to admit, y'all, I'm DYING. Thank you everyone for validating my gut reaction. I have a tendency to overthink and often feel guilty about things I shouldn't. You're all very kind! I'm turning off notifications now. ***Relevant Comments:*** *Clarification about who went to the ER:* "We took them to the ER, as in the child and her parents. They don't live in the area and my husband thought it was best that we drive as we knew where the ER was. It was much faster than calling for an ambulance." *Cute uncle saying:* "My uncle has been using "pretty little head" with me for as long as I can remember. When I was small, he would say "pretty little head" then poke me on the top of my head. Then I'd say "your pretty little head" and poke him in his head. While I fully acknowledge others might not like the saying, I've always considered it a term of endearment from him." *Someone asked if she used the crossed fork mark trick to indicate peanut butter, or a kiss in the middle:* "Yes, crossed fork marks. I've never tried the Hershey's Kiss, tho. You've given me ideas! Lol"
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"2022-12-17T19:01:27"
I (18F) am dead scared to ask out my crush (19F)
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/throwramute11 in r/relationship_advice** ---   [**I (18F) am dead scared to ask out my crush(19F)**](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/qqxebu/i_18f_am_dead_scared_to_ask_out_my_crush19f/) - 10 November 2021 We are friendly. She is really popular extrovert. She is friendly to everyone. She always comes talk to me when she sees me in the campus. I'm really damn shy and I have never asked anyone out. I don't have a lot of friends here and she has been really helpful. I don't want to make things weird. I have never had a girlfriend before and yeah. It is embarassing. She probably gets asked out by guys a lot. I think she is gay. She has a ton of bi merch. She texts me Every couple of days. She kinda bullies me into accepting food she buys for me.She is so nice. I am really smitten with her. I'm just scared of asking her out. I'm 99% sure she will reject me but I am close to blurting out that I like her. I'm a sucker for pain. I need advice. TLDR : I need advice on how to not ask our my crush in the worst way possible. She is nice and friendly. Don't know if she is just being nice or interested.   [**Update : I (18F) am dead scared to ask out my crush(19F)**](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/qt7noa/update_i_18f_am_dead_scared_to_ask_out_my_crush19f/) - 13 November 2021 I asked her out! Someone told me that instead of straight up asking her out. I should spend more time with her and see if we connect and then go from there. I saw her the next day and she told me she was bored so I asked if she wanted to get coffee with me from a cute coffee shop a bit further away. She said yes and while we were walking there she took my hand and we walked hand in hand till we reached there. I was blushing so hard. She noticed that and said I looked really cute when I blushed. We had coffee and spend some time together. I paid for it and she said next date was on her and yeah we are going to study together tomorrow and we are going on a date next week. TLDR : I asked her out. we are going on a date next week!   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-17T20:17:37"
WIBTA if I send an email to my half sister?
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/confident_face5385 in r/amitheasshole** ---   [**WIBTA if I send an email to my half sister?**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/p47pzw/wibta_if_i_send_an_email_to_my_half_sister/) - 14 August 2021 My elder sister is estranged from us. She was the scapegoat and I was the golden child. I was a spoiled brat and I rubbed it in. She was still a great elder sister. She was there for when I needed it and she protected me when I fucked up. I didn't deserve that at all. She cut us all off when I was 17. She had written me a letter where she explained that she loved me but she couldn't have me in her life without my presence reminding her of how shitty they were to her. It has been 8 years. I have respected her wishes because It had truly started to understand how horrible our parents where and I am sure I will never properly get how bad it was for her. I have wanted to see how she was doing. I have heard about her from mutual friends b really miss her but I understand why she wants the distance. She was always compared to me. She was constantly criticized about things that were not in her control. I was a little shit and loved how much they cared about me, They adored me while trampling down on her. It must have been hell. Pure hell for her and I was the tool used to hurt her. Last month, My boyfriend had a zoom company conference. I was dropping off some snacks for him when I saw it was my sister speaking. It brought back a lot of memories. I really miss her. I really do. I have been thinking about her lot. I want to send her an email asking her how she has been, Telling her I realized how shitty my parents were and apologizing for my actions and that I have cut them out of my life too. I just want to tell her that I really wish that she is happy and she was able to move past what the hurt they caused. I really hope that she is happy and I want her to be happy even if I have no place in her life, Would that be too much? I talked to one our old mutual friend who knew some of what went down and she thinks that It would be too much and that I should just move on and forget about it. I still want to send it to her. I know it is selfish. I should just ignore all these emotions and let her live in peace. That mail could drag back so much bad memories and I don't want to hurt her again. I still want to send it to her. That is what makes me a asshole here, I feel. I want to try to text her when she told me not to. Verdict: NAH   [**Update : WIBTA if I send an email to my half sister?**](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/pwlspa/update_wibta_if_i_send_an_email_to_my_half_sister/) - 27 September 2021 I received a lot very helpful advice. I wrote a short email telling my sister that I wished her well, I apologized for my behavior when we were living together and told her that I have cut of our parents and that I will love to be a part of her life if she wants me to be but I do understand it if she doesn't want to. I sat on it for a week and send it to our mutual friend. She read the email and she said she had talked about it with my sister and she was willing to read it. Nothing happened for two weeks but then she started to follow me on instagram!! I got so excited that my boyfriend was worried about me for a second. I have a photography page and she like a really old photo so I know she was browsing my account. She texted me a day later and we finally talked. I talked to her after 8 years. It was pretty emotional and yeah, it was fine. She is coming over to meet me next month. I am excited for it. She hasn't really changed and it makes me feel terrible, The first thing she asked me was how they treated me after she left, I don't know how I was so terrible to this wonderful woman. It is funny, She ended up being the perfect daughter they wanted me to be and I ended up being a bi college dropout with a career in flighty arts stuff. Funny how that turned out.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-17T22:13:32"
Host is imposing a $750 late check-in fee. What options do I have? (r/AirBnB)
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by** u/[escaliere](https://www.reddit.com/user/escaliere/) **in** r/AirBnB # Weirdly, this post has experienced a sharp influx of downvotes, despite all of the top comments agreeing with OOP. I'm sure this has absolutely nothing to do with the organization mentioned in the post, who have done the same thing to others :) Animal Fun Fact bc I love the ones u/LucyAriaRose gives: Many farmers feed their cows Skittles! They're purchased in bulk (usually at a discounted rate because they take defective candies) and mixed into their regular feed for a cheap way to get them a little bit of sugar and carbs. Farmers closer to a different candy factory will often mix that into their feed as well. Mmmm, skittlecow... mood spoilers: >!Infuriating process, but they get their money back and have reported the company.!< Updates were added to the original post, so dates are unfortunately unavailable for those. ETA: The images of this post have been (partially) transcribed! I've made a post on my profile, [here](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheComment/comments/zolfx6/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_image/). I've linked the post again in the text with \[[x](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheComment/comments/zolfx6/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_image/)\]. \*\*\* # Host is imposing a $750 late check-in fee. What options do I have? [*Oct. 16, 2022*](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirBnB/comments/y5x3cc/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_what/)*,* r/AirBnB I'm planning a trip for a party of 8 in Seattle next week. Over a month ago, I messaged the host (it is a company, not a person) asking for information about the check-in process. They replied that they will contact me 1 week prior to my stay. This week, they message me saying that check-in must be in-person between 4-6pm on my arrival date. This is impossible for me, as my whole party had booked flights that arrive between 10:30pm and 11pm, so the earliest we would arrive to the AirBNB would be around 11pm. Mind you, the listing at first glance says that check-in is "after 4:00pm," though under the cut it states 4pm to 6pm in the middle of what appears to be a full novel of a contract. I measured the scroll bar, and it's 1cm long. The contract also does not EXPLICITLY state that guests MUST check in in-person. One has to infer that. The language they use is "any in person check in is required to provide valid identification to the check in host at the time of check in." This is the only place in the whole novel of a contract that states we are to be checking in in-person. The other, more visible, place that it talks about check-in is in this paragraph: >"Check-in is available between 4:00 pm and 6:00 pm on the date of Renter's arrival; a 30-minute window needs to be scheduled a minimum of 24 hours in advance (unless same day booking) with the Manager/ check-in host and a time confirmed. If renter is late past the check-in window the renter will pay up to $75 per 30 minutes as a wait fee." The thing is, they wouldn't be "waiting" as I am telling them ahead of time I will not be there before 11pm. I called AirBNB support and they said I have no grounds to dispute this and I have to take it up with the host. Yes, I wish I had read all of the 7,464 words under the cut in the house rules. Is there any way out? Another lovely piece of the "house rules" that I found while reading today: >"Any defamatory, libelous, or slanderous review posted on any public forum will incur a $100 per day fee until removed." I feel so scammed. Any help is appreciated. Edit: The cancellation policy is 50% refund 2 months in advance of the stay. Any later than that and there is no refund. Edit 2: My boyfriend did some digging and found their Yelp reviews: [https://www.yelp.com/biz/luxury-sleep-accommodations-chelan-5](https://www.yelp.com/biz/luxury-sleep-accommodations-chelan-5) I am floored at how many others have had this exact experience with this company. Edit 3: So since this post is getting a bit of traction, I'd like to provide a little more info. Part of the "house rules" states that guests must sign a contract before check-in and asks for a valid ID via an outside form ( [https://www.jotform.com/211386438413152](https://www.jotform.com/211386438413152)). The contract contains all of the extra fees including the waiting fee, the bad review fee, and a host of other fees (many of which are between $750 and $1500). They state that without my signature, they will not check us in. I'm assuming that my bank will not accept any claims I make if I sign this contract... I think I'm stuck. \----- **FINAL EDIT**: After 5 phone calls to AirBNB, 32 messages to a support person who responded every 6 hours and then 3 calls to my bank, AIRBNB REFUNDED MY ENTIRE STAY OF $2,429.10!!! Before this happened, my party decided to cut our losses and book a hotel - we figured that this scummy host would weasel in as many fees as they're able to and it would probably end up well over $750 if we stayed. I've said this to those who DMed me, but I was so encouraged by all of your comments and offers to help. I saw 5 new reviews pop up on their Yelp page since I've made this post. Some of you have contacted AirBNB on my behalf. I have never received so much support from a community, and I am so thankful. I am going to take the next day or two to write scathing reviews of this company and detail exactly the steps I took to get a refund. I saw that many others were unable to get refunded, so hopefully this post can help someone like you all have helped me. Different names the company goes by (and they have changed it once again10/18/22): Luxsle Corp, Luxury Sleeping Accommodations, Luxury Virtual Staging. Various rental profiles: [AirBNB](https://www.airbnb.com/users/show/23165254), [their main website](https://www.luxsle.com/), [seattle vacation lodging](http://www.seattlevacationlodging.com/), [Reluty real estate services](https://reluty.com/) [BBB profile](https://www.bbb.org/us/wa/seattle/profile/vacation-rentals/luxsle-corp-1296-1000058038) [Yelp Profile](https://www.yelp.com/biz/staging-and-rentals-co-chelan) (previously linked above) which they seem to have CHANGED THEIR COMPANY NAME ON to "Staging and Rentals Co"????? [Birdeye Profile](https://reviews.birdeye.com/luxury-sleep-accommodations-and-vacation-rentals-156961772166212) For their Google reviews, search "Luxury Virtual Staging" in Seattle. **HOW I GOT MY REFUND:** I make most of my commentary on the images inside the imgur links. To start, these were the house rules under the cut: [https://imgur.com/a/kU849Jn](https://imgur.com/a/kU849Jn) \[[x](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheComment/comments/zolfx6/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_image/)\] I've highlighted areas of note (fees, inconsistencies). Notable text on the listing: [https://imgur.com/a/OAw7Nk5](https://imgur.com/a/OAw7Nk5) \[[x](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheComment/comments/zolfx6/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_image/)\] My messages with the host: [https://imgur.com/a/kswzD7p](https://imgur.com/a/kswzD7p) \[[x](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheComment/comments/zolfx6/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_image/)\] My messages with AirBNB: [https://imgur.com/a/bFQArut](https://imgur.com/a/bFQArut) I've highlighted everything I said that I thought actually helped me along. \[[x](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheComment/comments/zolfx6/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_image/)\] Wells Fargo was very helpful. They almost cancelled my credit card twice because they thought I was reporting fraud. They said that a fee for "wrongfully disputing a credit card charge" sounds illegal and it is unlikely that AirBNB would help enforce this. The thing I did MOST RIGHT, though, was NOT signing the contract that they emailed me. If I had signed that, I would (probably) have no grounds for disputing anything. I'm sure that the hosts on this sub who reached out for me also made a difference in the outcome, along with all of the reporting and new 1-star reviews that everyone has been leaving. Thanks again to everyone who put in time and effort to help out a stranger on the internet. I am glad there are so many hosts out there who embody the spirit of BnB. # [UPDATE] Host WAS imposing a $750 late check-in fee. They're now talking about legal action for my previous post. [*Oct 19, 2022*](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirBnB/comments/y86ryu/update_host_was_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee/)*,* r/AirBnB So per my final update to my [previous post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirBnB/comments/y5x3cc/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_what/), AirBnB sided with me and provided me a near $2,500 refund after the host I booked with (Luxsle Corp/Luxury Sleep Accommodations/Luxury Virtual Staging) tried to charge me $150 per hour fee to check in at 11pm. They sent me a new message today: [https://imgur.com/a/FUIrIWh](https://imgur.com/a/FUIrIWh) \[[x](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheComment/comments/zolfx6/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_image/)\] It wasn't unexpected. They've responded this way to numerous other people. Am I right in assuming that they have no basis for taking legal action against me? My concern is they also seem to be threatening me, dropping my Reddit username and that they know what my occupation is. I've already reported them to AirBnB. Thanks again for reading. Edit: To update for anyone interested, AirBnB has reached out to me to discuss this case. I don't know what that means but I hope it means we're getting somewhere. I haven't gotten a chance to reply to everyone but I'm appreciative of the continued support!! :) Edit 2: Thanks to everyone's advice, I've filed reports against Luxsle to the Washington State Attorney General, the Federal Trade Commission, the City of Seattle General Business Complaints, and to the Department of Licensing for Real Estate. # AirBnB host tried to charge me $600 to check in late, I got a refund, and they are now talking about legal action against me for libel, bullying and harassment. [*October 19, 2022*](https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/y8bd6c/airbnb_host_tried_to_charge_me_600_to_check_in/)*,* r/legaladvice Directly related to my [previous post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirBnB/comments/y5x3cc/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_what/) in [r/AirBnB](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirBnB/). I apologize if the flair is wrong - it was originally about housing/renting but it seems more related to criminal law, now. The location is Seattle, WA. AirBnB sided with me and provided me a near $2,500 refund after the host I booked with (not a single person, but a large property management company) tried to charge me $150 per hour fee to check in at 11pm. The details are in my previous post, but the TL;DR is that I mistakenly did not read the "house rules" in its entirety (7,464 words) and booked after just skimming. I asked for check-in information a month prior to my stay, and they responded that they would discuss it 1 week before my stay. They then told me that checking in late is a $150 per hour fee, and I would be 5 hours late. I felt that this fee (among many others costing between $750 and $1,500 for doing things like not waiting for the garage door to close all the way or not showering before entering the pool) was excessive and misleading. They sent me a new message today: [https://imgur.com/a/FUIrIWh](https://imgur.com/a/FUIrIWh) \[[x](https://www.reddit.com/user/TheComment/comments/zolfx6/host_is_imposing_a_750_late_checkin_fee_image/)\] (update: added another image) It wasn't unexpected. They've responded this way to numerous other people who leave bad reviews. Am I right in assuming that they have no basis for taking legal action against me? I know my previous post got a decent amount of attention - is this considered harassment/bullying? Would anything that I said previously be considered defamatory? Do I have to write "this post is not encouragement to leave 1 star reviews" (or something similar) on everything to be considered safe? I linked many of their business and rental profiles as well as popular review sites on my post, too, so I imagine they did get a decent amount of attention from that. However, I did not once encourage others to leave negative reviews or report their business, or to do anything, really. Another concern I have is that in their message towards me, they also seem to be threatening me by dropping my Reddit username and that they know what my occupation is. I've already reported them to AirBnB. I do know that anything anyone says online can incite threats to sue - I know the risk I am taking whenever I post. Someone in [r/AirBnB](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirBnB/) suggested I might be able to get some advice here. Thanks for reading. Edit: Thanks to [u/Lonely-World-981](https://www.reddit.com/u/Lonely-World-981/)'s advice, I've filed reports against Luxsle to the Washington State Attorney General, the Federal Trade Commission, the City of Seattle General Business Complaints, and to the Department of Licensing for Real Estate. # Comment From OOP [December 17, 2022](https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/zohtp3/comment/j0nkgff/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) OOP here, thanks for helping to spread the word on these scumbags. Additional update that I haven't gotten a chance to add yet: they sent me a cease and desist via email about a month ago. I didn't respond. They seem to have gone quiet since then, which is nice. ​ \*\*\* *If you're having you're own AirBnB refund issues, the comments from the first post have a lot of good information.* *Reminder that I am not the original poster, and don't stay in any AirBnB run by* ***Luxsle Corp, Luxury Sleeping Accommodations, Luxury Virtual Staging, or Staging and Rentals Co***.
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"2022-12-17T22:25:05"
My (20F) boyfriend (20M) invites my best friend (20F) out to games, just the two of them.
INCONCLUSIVE
**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/throwravarsityfriend in r/relationship_advice** ---   [**My (20F) boyfriend (20M) invites my best friend (20F) out to games, just the two of them.**](https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/dtetcf/my_20f_boyfriend_20m_invites_my_best_friend_20f/) - 8 November 2019 My boyfriend(lets call him J) and I have been together for a year and me and my best friend(lets call her G) have been friends since grade school. J and G are both varsity players and are addicted to watching sports. They would follow hockey, baseball, soccer, football, basketball, like almost any game they love. However, i'm not really a sports person but still I would make the effort to attend their games. I would also make an effort to learn and understand their games. J plays football and G plays soccer. J was using my laptop and forgot to logout his facebook account. I know its wrong to snoop but I couldn't help it. Some his teammates were messaging him and I clicked on the message icon and saw that he was messaging G. I got curious and scrolled through it and saw that he invited G out to multiple games, saying that he will buy 2 tickets for this game or that game. G would decline and tell him that he should invite me. J then said that I wouldn't understand and that I was not fun to be with in these kinds of things. G said that he is being unfair to me. J still sends multiple messages to G about wanting to talk and wanting to go out with her. This has been going on for months. G has said nothing to me about this and the only thing that she did to kinda allude to the situation is to text me list of games that I should watch because those are J's favorite teams. I kinda feel betrayed by both of them. Although I feel more betrayed by J than G. What should I do? How should I approach this? **UPDATE:** Thank you everyone for your advice. I approached G first and told her that I've seen the messages. She was relieved that I came to her and talked to her about it. She explained that she didn't know what to do because she didn't want to do anything that would destroy our friendship. She also assured me that next time she will tell me if anything shady like this happens again and that she will always have my back. We both apologized to each other and hugged it out. I also have to admit that snooping through J's messages are wrong. The reason I did that because there are some rumours that he hits on other girls at away games and I was feeling insecure and worried about it. But it still does not justify the way I went about it. As for J, we will meet up later tonight. I honestly think it is over between us. He also has a lot of guys friends to go with him to games and he also would never invite me. I would rather salvage my relationship with my friend, than continue my relationship with him and stay feeling insecure. Thank you people of reddit for the advice. **UPDATE 2:** G told me that I should start by saying "Hey, G told me that you were inviting her out to games" and I did exactly that. J became defensive and told me that he never invited her. I told him that I saw the messages and he asked if G showed me the messages. I told him the truth that I saw it through his fb and he was furious at me. He told me that I violated his privacy and I apologized for it. Then he told me that he was asking out G because his friends felt that G was a lesbian. He was trying to get proof by asking her out and that her not reciprocating is proof that she is one. At this point I'm like "WHAAAAAT?!". He said that he was doing that to protect me and I'm like WHAT?. He then left and told me that he needed space and that I should text him after I got my head cleared up. I texted him "stay away from me and G". That was honestly a wild ride.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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Dealership burned my car (literally). Offering me new car - how should I tackle this?
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I am not the OP. This was originally posted in r/askcarsales by [u/BigMerc0925](https://www.reddit.com/user/BigMerc0925/). Fun Fact for Mobile Spoilers: Wombats have square poops! The fact that they can create cubes in a soft tube (their intestines) is actually so novel, there are potential applications in things like manufacturing and medicine! Mood spoiler: >!Surprisingly happy ending. Everything is made right. !< \*\*\* # Dealership burned my car (literally). Offering me new car - how should I tackle this? [December 1, 2020](https://www.reddit.com/r/askcarsales/comments/k4y2a7/dealership_burned_my_car_literally_offering_me/) Hi, new to Reddit - but was told by a family member this is an excellent source of info. Buckle in for a lengthy story but I need the advice. Remove if violating rules. Context: I own a Mercedes CL600, I took it in to the dealership for (what I thought) to be routine work on some engine seals/covers. This was on Monday. From what the dealership has told me, apparently there was an accident that occurred that resulted while it was in service. Owner of the dealer calls me (nice gesture) I’m thinking “Okay, someone probably hit it. No big deal, probably just needs some bodywork/paint correction someone hit it in the lot. It happens”. Nope there was a mechanical fire, owner of the dealership says you better come down. (Tuesday) Hoping for the best on my drive over, but if any of you are gearheads these cars have magnesium subframes on them. My worst fears were well founded, the entire car caught on fire. I’m looking at a charred CL600 that the fire department had to just let burn in the parking lot because magnesium fires are tough to put out. Insurance obviously declares this a total loss and will be coming after the dealer for money. Oddly enough after searching some owners forums, this has happened to a handful or two of CL600 owners getting the same exact service done. Not exactly common, but it has happened. Caveat here is the dealership is liable, and they are being extremely amenable (above and beyond for the circumstances) and going to give me a new car for free. They are going to work up solution and give me some details tomorrow. What advice do you have on how I should tackle this? Valuation is going to be weird, how much should I push for something similar to what I had? I know the comparisons aren’t exactly there to be made to compare my low-mileage loaded CL600 to Mercedes current lineup, but I don’t really know what to ask for. Any advice? I know this is a crazy situation. *\[Redundant link to update post removed\]* # Dealer burned my car (literally) Update [*December 2, 2020*](https://www.reddit.com/r/askcarsales/comments/k5hc2a/dealer_burned_my_car_literally_update/) *\[Redundant link to original post removed\]* For those looking for an update on my burned CL600 that caught fire at the dealership. First off, I want to thank the kind (and some not so kind) folks on this page. But in particular a few users who gave some really good advice ( [u/SupraLover1994](https://www.reddit.com/u/SupraLover1994/) , [u/Minja78](https://www.reddit.com/u/Minja78/) , and [u/ArlesChatless](https://www.reddit.com/u/ArlesChatless/) ) that really helped me going in for a conversation. I appreciate the kindness from strangers, especially in a forum like this. I am leaving the dealership with a new (used) car! For those that are interested in the particulars: I had a great conversation with the owner of the dealer, as I said before he really has gone above and beyond to bury the hatchet and make sure that I am taken care of now and in the future. Approaching this with cool heads and a good attitude made for a really pleasant experience. Hagerty booked my car at 29k and some change. The owner of the dealership suggested their insurance take the hit to avoid a total loss on my policy - we then discussed what a new vehicle looks like for me. At this point I think all the frustration and sadness was out, he handed his wallet in a gesture to me, chuckled slightly and said "lets walk the lot, pick a few cars you like and we can talk options". We looked at a lot of cars that were about as similar as you could get to my old CL600 (S-Class coupes, CLS Sedans, and even SL Roadsters), but ultimately I settled on a low-mileage, used 2019 S63 AMG sedan with \~5300 miles that really caught my eye. CarFax checks out, its CPO fresh-off a trade-in. I drove the car, had a PPI done, and was satisfied with the results. The owner and I sat to discuss the nitty-gritty, I was happy to discuss numbers on the new car. To my complete surprise, he asks if I would consider rolling the insurance money in to the deal, and that I cover taxes, titling costs, and fees. If I do this, they will let me walk with the car free and clear, along with some dealer add-ons of my choice and a paid-for service contract. I felt this was **far** beyond fair, and accepted his extremely gracious deal. This was beyond any expectations I had when I woke up this morning. Paperwork is all done, and I will be picking up the car Friday after they complete the add-ons to it. I couldn't figure out how to post a picture on this post on my desktop (sorry I'm a little new to reddit) - but it is a white S63 AMG with plenty of goodies. Its not a coupe, but I'm glad for the extra space and it is miles beyond my old CL600 in terms of comfort, tech, and amenities. It is a blast to drive! Thank you again to everybody who offered kind words and advice to help me approach this the best way possible. It is nice to know decent people are out there helping others in need. I don't think this profession gets enough credit for the ones who do it right - thank you to those that do. Hope everyone has a great holiday season with their loved ones! \*\*\* *Another reminder that I am not OP.*
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Neglectful moron alienates his daughter by trying to play dad
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"2022-12-18T01:47:13"
OP No Longer Wants Her Friends To Babysit (AITA Dec 10, '22)
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Originally posted by u/hidinabottle in r/AmItheAsshole on Dec 10, '22, updated in an edit. **OOP posted a new update today, Dec 18th. You can find it below the 🔴🔴🔴's** Difficult Content Warning Warning: Did you know newborn kittens can hiss? This is rare to see, though, so a lot of people think they're having breathing problems when they hear it. It's just their instincts kicking in to warn off trouble when they hear or smell something different. These hisses are, of course, properly intimidating (read: extremely adorable). Trigger Warning: . >!Questions of child abuse and sexual abuse!< [Original post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zi5hwt/aita_for_looking_into_professional_babysitter_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) AITA for looking into professional babysitter for my child? I have a daughter who is roughly 1 year old. Her name is Allison. Her dad and I both work full time jobs, where I work between 35-40 hours a week and he works anywhere between 40-45 hours. We both work mornings. My friends Tom (23m) and Skylar (24f)had volunteered to watch Allison for us as Tom worked from home and Allison isn't known to cry very often. At first it was going great. Tom would have Allison in a separate and baby proofed room where she could play with her toys while he worked. Then Skylar would take over when she came home. We offered pay many times but they kept refusing. And Skylar would ask us to bring Allison over if it had been a while since we asked her to help with babysitting. Finally we agreed to them having Allison 3 days a week but the made us promise to stop offering to pay them. It was great for a while. It really worked out. But then Allison started coming home with rashes from stale diapers. She'd be extremely fussy and hungry by the time we got home. We would talk to Tom and Skylar about this and request they were more observant of her diapers at the very least. Her thrashing and screaminf because diaper ointment hurt broke my heart every time. Especially since I knew it was avoidable. They'd say yes, but after a while would go back. They have recently started lying to get out of our arraignment. Claiming to be out of town for the week, then Snapchat us them being at home with their birds. Claim they were sick but our mutual friends would still be hanging out. And claiming that they wouldn't be at home all week for work, when Tom works strictly from home. His job doesn't even have a main office. Without them knowing, we registered Allison with a professional daycare service. I drop her off in the morning and her dad picks her up. Word got to Skylar and Tom and now they're blowing up our phones calling us evil, shifty, and rude for not telling them they wouldn't have Allison anymore. And claiming I betrayed their trust by not talking to them about my concerns. AITA for finding a daycare for Allison? *When asked why they would offer to watch Allison for free:* They had said it was because Allison was a joy to be around and that they had no problem doing a favor for their friends. They said accepting payment just felt wrong for something they volunteered and wanted to do. *When asked about Allison being kept in a separate room all day:* We were under the impression that Tom would be interacting with her semi-frequently. He told us that his job is extremely slow paced and in the 4 hours he would be working while looking after her, he would have a 1 hour lunch and a 15 minute break. Plus the ability to be with her until he heard a notification from his computer. *More info in the comments:* As for the visits, we haven't seen them in three weeks, so they haven't been around Allison. And I don't see that changing. I just have this sick feeling in my gut and I don't know if it's guilt or instinct. We had been talking about possible overnights once a week due to the late pickup and early dropoff times (6am to 8pm due to our work schedules and drives) and I'm just glad I had never agreed to it. My husband and I are going to be calling Allison's pediatrician tomorrow morning. I have this sick feeling and with every traumatic diaper change it gets worse. I'm praying that everyone's dark thoughts are wrong but I can't shake this feeling. Our pediatrician is available for an emergency appointment with us today, thankfully. We're in the waiting room now. If Allison's pediatrician wasn't available, we would've gone straight to an urgent care nearby. *Verdict: Not The Asshole, but get your baby examined by a doctor.* UPDATE I am not ready to go into too much detail yet, but we have been advised by Allison's pediatrician to launch an investigation against Tom and Skylar for what I thought was a diaper rash. It was apparently burns, which would explain how it appeared in the course of one day as badly as it had and why it didn't seem to be healing. Allison is not going into her daycare tomorrow. She will not be leaving my side. My boss is offering me the ability to stay home with her during the course of everything. If a further update is requested at a later time, I will. But I can't for right now. I don't have the mental capacity. Thank you, everyone, for assuring me I did the right thing and advising medical council. I feel like a horrible mom for not doing so sooner, but will put that aside for now to care for my daughter. 🔴🔴🔴🔴🔴 [NEW UPDATE Dec 18th](https://www.reddit.com/user/hidinabottle/comments/zpei7b/update_aita_for_looking_into_professional/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) [Original Post ](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/zi5hwt/aita_for_looking_into_professional_babysitter_for/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I want to start by saying thank you so very much for everyone's kind words and advice. It's been an insane week since I had posted and I have no idea how it would be if I hadn't followed the advice of everybody here. As I had updated on the previous post, I followed the advice of the comments and took Allison to her pediatrician for an emergency appointment. I had thought it was a bad diaper rash she had come home with four weeks ago, and last week learned it was chemical burns. Following that update, both my pediatrician and all of you pushed for me to get the police involved. I didn't have to be asked twice. Tom and Skylar are being investigated by the police for what they did to Allison. I don't know a lot yet, but I was told that Tom and Skylar would in no way win the case. Tom was apparently unemployed the whole time and his "job" was maintaining a website he and Skylar made documenting what they were doing with Allison and two other children. The website has been taken down already, and the other parents are being investigated as well due to evidence of consent. A detective also informed me that Tom and Skylar had admitted guilt to their actions (I haven't been told what the actions were, but my husband knows and he has said that Tom and Skylar were lucky the police found them first). They have provided the items in which were used. I was told the burns likely came from a lubricant that Tom and Skylar used. I didn't ask why they had it, and I'm praying it was intended as a Desitin substitute. Probably naive of me. Allison is still home with me, and my husband and I are looking into a multitude of therapy options. We are also looking into moving back to where our families are. Or my brother moving in with us to help us ground ourselves to reality again. My MIL has already booked a hotel nearby and is with us every day to help us make sure Allison knows she is safe and loved. I wish she could talk and understand that we won't let anything happen to her again, but for now I will settle with holding her when she needs me, and rubbing her back when she goes to sleep. Life will not be the same moving forward for a while and I know that. I am just beyond thankful that I posted and everybody here was able to point out the red flags and concerns so that I could make the right choice for my daughter. I was blinded by 15 years of friendship and couldn't fathom that they had intentionally hurt my baby girl. I see that now and will forever carry that with me, as it was a failure on my part to protect my daughter. The rose colored glasses are off now. Thank you to everybody here for helping me and my family. **Your reposter here. I wanted to add this comment from u/Erininium about a book on safety tips:** >I got a book about safety to read to my kids (all about don’t go anywhere with a stranger, your private parts are private, safe grown ups don’t ask you to keep secrets from your parents, etc) and it has a section of tips for parents. One of them covers behavior to watch out for that might indicate that another adult is a predator. And two of the signs are offering to watch your child for free, and trying to get alone time with your child. Alarm bells were ringing in my head from the beginning of the post! >For any parents out there, the book is called “Super Duper Safety School: Safety Tips for Kids and Grown-Ups.” Well worth the $14 I paid as my 5yo can now recite all the “safety rules” by heart! **Reminder! DO NOT COMMENT ON THE ORIGINAL POST OR MESSAGE THE OOP**
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"2022-12-18T02:04:47"
OOP is receiving Amazon packages he's not ordering. A Prime suspect reveals themselves.
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**I am NOT OP. Original post by u/vantablack_crayon in r/RBI** ---   [**My neighbor is having their Amazon packages delivered to my apartment**](https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/x4dhdk/my_neighbor_is_having_their_amazon_packages/) - 02 September 2022 I was wondering if someone here might have an idea of why my neighbor is doing this. I need to start out by saying that the lamination or whatever is covering the walkway outside my apartment door is loose/peeling and its very noisy when you walk on it. It's literally impossible to walk over it quietly. My girlfriend and I try to "sneak in" to the apartment if we know the other is home, but we are never able to. I work from home most of the time, so I'm usually home when packages get dropped off. A few days after my neighbor moved in, I heard another set of foot steps approach the door very soon (like less than a minute) after the packages were delivered then walk away still trying to be quiet. I thought someone had stolen a package, but after checking with my girlfriend, nothing was missing. This kept happening two or three times a week, always on weekdays. The problem is in the afternoons when delivery drivers get to our complex, I'm usually on zoom calls for work, so I can't get up and go to the door to see what's going on. I do know it is always Amazon packages as I can see the delivery truck parking spot from the window next to my desk. Around two weeks after it started, I was not on a zoom call when I heard packages get dropped off. I saw out the front window that it was our new neighbor taking the packages. By the time I got dressed, he was back in his apartment, so I knocked on the door and explained the situation and asked if his packages had been being delivered to our apartment by mistake. He said he had no idea what I was talking about. I brought it up to the land lord, but after hearing that we weren't missing any packages, he just shrugged it off with a "Huh that's weird". I called the local police station. The officer I spoke to said I could come to the station and file a report if I wanted to, but there wasn't much they could do about especially since we weren't missing any packages. He seemed to think it was just the Amazon driver delivering to the wrong place. A couple days ago I happened to be free and near the door when I heard some packages being dropped off. My girlfriend and I weren't expecting anything, so I knew that the neighbor would be coming to pick it up. I looked out the peep hole, and sure enough, less than a minute after the packages were dropped off, he came walking up. I opened the door right as he was bending over to pick up the package. He looked at me, grabbed the package and started walking very quickly back to his apartment. I asked what he was doing taking a package from our door step. He said he had brought the package in from his car even though I literally just saw him take it from our door step. He wouldn't stop to talk to me. I followed him and asked to see the package to see who it was addressed to and what the apartment number was, but he kept saying he had brought the package in himself. He went back into his apartment and wouldn't answer his door when I knocked. In hindsight I should have taken the package before he arrived to look at the shipping label and force him to knock on my door and ask if I received the package. I'll be doing this the next time I'm able to. I'm confused as to why he is doing this. I've chatted with him a few times and heard him chatting with other neighbors, and he doesn't strike me as someone so socially awkward they couldn't explain that his packages keep getting delivered to my apartment for some reason. I thought that he might be getting less than legal things delivered, so he didn't want them going to his address (I don't see how getting such packages delivered next door would be any better though). However, the packages are always delivered by Amazon delivery. I could be wrong on this, but I think that anything delivered by Amazon delivery is fulfilled by Amazon themselves, so it's not some possibly sketchy 3rd party delivering. Is there something I'm missing here? No real harm is being done, I think, but not knowing why he is doing this is bugging me. Edit: Thanks for all the advice, everyone, it's much appreciated. I've contacted my landlord as well as the company that owns the apartment complex by email and let them know what's going on. I went into the police station and filed a report as well. I let my boss know what's going on and they gave me permission to step away in the middle of our zoom meetings when I hear packages being delivered, so I can grab my neighbor's package the next time one is dropped off at my apartment. I plan to contact my city's post office on Monday, but I don't know if this falls in their jurisdiction since Amazon is the courier. I will make an update post when I learn more.   [**Update: My neighbor is having their Amazon packages delivered to my apartment**](https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/xli6i1/update_my_neighbor_is_having_their_amazon/) - 22 September 2022 Here is the original post for those interested: https://old.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/x4dhdk/my_neighbor_is_having_their_amazon_packages/ Hi all. Sorry it's been a while without an update, but nothing much has happened. After I made my previous post, my neighbor had 2 more package delivered. I'm guessing he had already ordered them and they were in transit when I caught him red handed taking a package from my door step. The packages had different names on them, neither one of them matched the name my neighbor gave me when we introduced ourselves. He didn't come to my door looking for the packages either. I kept them, but I didn't open them. One box was small and light and the other was larger, fairly heavy and I'm guessing it contains multiple items. As I mentioned in an edit to the post, I had filed a police report on the situation. I was contacted earlier this week by my local police department and a detective came out to my apartment to ask me some questions. He wouldn't give me any solid answers on the nature of the investigation, but he was clearly very interested in my neighbor. I'm guessing my neighbor is suspected of some form of fraud like many people suggested in my previous post. I handed off the two packages mentioned earlier to the detective as well. So that's where things stand right now. Nothing big or exciting going on so far. If anything else comes up, I'll make another update. ###Comments [On catching neighbor:](https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/xli6i1/update_my_neighbor_is_having_their_amazon/ipkaz6a/) >OP you said you caught your neighbor red handed. What was his reaction? What did you say? >> **OOP: I opened my door and he was standing on my door step already. He made eye contact with me, bent down and picked up a package and started to walk away. I asked him what he was doing and he said he had brought that package in from his car. I asked to see the shipping label to see where it was meant to be shipped, but he still insisted he had brought the package in himself. He evaded every question I asked until he got back into his apartment. Then he wouldn't answer the door when I knocked.** [Informing Amazon:](https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/xli6i1/update_my_neighbor_is_having_their_amazon/ipkaz6a/) > Thanks for updating! Did Amazon agree to stop sending packages without your name to your address? >> **OOP: I contacted Amazon, but I got the run around for nearly an hour and a half. Everyone I talked to originally thought I was complaining about having my packages stolen. It took each of them a while to grasp the situation, and every time I was transferred to someone else who could supposedly help, but it always meant I had to explain the situation all over again. In the end nothing was resolved.** >>> You have to ask for a US based phone room, you can request it, then ask for the fraud department. It's really hard to handle complicated issues with people who speak English as a second or third language on a phone line. >>>> **OOP: I will try this. Even though he seems to be done shipping things to my address, I'd rather cover my bases.**   [**Update: My neighbor is having their Amazon packages delivered to my apartment**](https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/ysvl5w/update_my_neighbor_is_having_their_amazon/) - 11 November 2022 So it's been a bit without any new info. However, today I heard a commotion outside my door and stepped out to see my Landlord and the maintenance guy at my neighbor's door. The Landlord was pounding on it for a good 5 minutes, but my neighbor didn't answer. The maintenance guy opened up the door and they went inside. I waited around for a while until I could catch the maintenance guy alone and asked him what was going on. He said that my neighbor hadn't paid this month's rent, so the Landlord went to collect, but he wasn't there. It looks like he skipped out on his lease and moved out. The maintenance guy said, "He didn't take everything, but he definitely moved out." I don't know how long he has been gone. Other than the times he came to my door to pick up packages, he was a very quiet person. I don't have any update as far as the criminal investigation into my neighbor goes. I haven't been contacted by the police, and I don't know if it's really ok just to call them up and ask them about on ongoing investigation. I guess that's all we're going to get from this mystery. Unless there's some way in California for citizens to stay updated on police investigations. Thanks for all the interest and sorry it's been so long since the last update.   **Reminder - I am not the original poster.**
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"2022-12-18T02:34:46"
thought you guys should know.
NEW UPDATE
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"2022-12-18T04:57:42"
OOP Demands Her Brother Be Invited To Her Daughter's Wedding, and Then Things Get Very Dark
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"2022-12-18T05:10:27"
OP thinks she can dictate how others live their life
INCONCLUSIVE
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"2022-12-18T05:29:40"
[New Update] I've fallen in love with the husband of the woman my husband is cheating on me with.
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I'm not the OOP. This was posted by a now deleted user in r/trueoffmychest. [Original](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/y24pxc/ive_fallen_in_love_with_the_husband_of_the_women/) (13 Oct 22) **I've fallen in love with the husband of the women my husband is cheating on me with** I'm so sorry. there are a lot of errors in the title and the text. while I think my English is pretty awesome. its not perfect. so sorry for any confusion ​ this is going to be a long post. will do my best to make it short. I found this sub on a podcast. maybe I can find comfort about what've been weighing me down for almost a year now ​ I'm (f36) and my husband is (m38). we have been together for 10 years. we have one daughter who's (f6). she's everything to me. I found out a year ago that my husband is sleeping with his employee (f30) , how? her husband, let's call him J (m35) contacted me. he was heartbroken and he thought that I ought to know. he provided me with text messages and dated when they've been in hotels. I recognized my husbands style and I recognized the other woman. I have seen her on multiple occasions when I visited my husband at work. she'd been nothing but kind and pleasant towards me and she always doted on my daughter. ​ I asked J what he wanted to do an he said that he wasn't sure yet so I requested that we should meet. He agreed. I told him about my life and that I'm currently not working after the pandemic I lost my job and now the economy I haven't really had any opportunity to find job. instead I've been studying these past 2 years. if I divorce now I won't be able to provide for my daughter. that would probably put her in my husband's custody as a primary provider. I asked him if he could wait for a few months, hopefully longer therefore and to my surprised he agreed. I thanked him profusely but he told me that he didn't know what to do either so he's happy to wait. also, the other woman has 3 children from a previous relationship and he was worried that she would refuse him being in their lives once he confronted her because hes not the father. ​ we kept in touch however. he called me a few times a week and soon we started to talk about other things other than our failed marriages. afterwards we started going for walks, coffee movies etc. I found myself thinking about him often with a smile on my face. he was the first thing I thought of in the morning and the last thing I thought of before going to bed. for the last 3-4 months we probably mentioned our spouses one or twice. we talk about everything else. and he always makes me laugh (he thinks I'm funny too :)) ​ 2 weeks ago we were having a picnic and he just blurted out "I think that I'm in love with you". when he then explained himself it just drove the point home that I also am in love with him. he said that at first he wasn't sure why he was feeling like this towards me and explained it away as two jilted people finding comfort in each other but that he then realized that he wasn't broken anymore. that he even thinks of his wife's infidelity as a blessing because it lead him to me. that was exactly how I felt too. I didn't know what to say. I told him that I'm terrified that these are false feelings that would go away once we've freed ourselves from those who hurt us. he just beamed at me and said he was willing to take the risk just to find out. he kissed my hand because I thought we were still married and if we did something then how are we better than our SO? ​ I don't know what to do now. I find myself daydreaming about him. about introducing him to my daughter. kiss him. wake up next to him every morning. I still have one semester left and then I'm probably going to find a job. I've already had some offers for when Im finished with my studies. I have thanked J so many times for being so patient with me about everything. I appreciate that hes waiting for me to put my life in order before we expose our spouses who aren't really seeing each other as often as they used to do. he told me hes happy to help and he just wants a real kiss as a thank you when everything is over. ​ my goal now is to secure my job and leave this marriage. am I pathetic for wanting to give J and I a shot and see where it would go? can two broken hearts really find happiness together when their love story started like ours? [Update 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/yamc5c/j_and_i_have_decided_not_to_see_each_other/) (22 Oct 22) **J and I have decided not to see each other anymore. (I am in love with the husband of my husband's affair partner)** Hi again! This is not an update. Since nothing new has happened in my life. But I’ve been feeling so down lately and my emotions are all over the place. Hopefully this post will help me sort out my feeling. I’m sorry if you find it confusing but this is how I’m feeling right now. Confusion. Also, I’m sorry, but it’s going to be a long and bumpy ride like my last one. I’m still busy with my studies. Especially now so close to the holidays. Thereafter I’m going to have a break until January 16 and the start of my last semester. I have got two job offers. One with unpaid internship starting in April. I like this job very much since I would be working from my laptop most of the days the other one is more of an in office job but with better pay. I don’t know how the custody arrangement is going to be but I feel like a job with more flexible hours is a better fit for me. The reason why I’m writing now is that J and I met yesterday. If you remember my last, we decided not to see each other (at least not as often) since the “I love you” talk. We did good keeping that promise, but we still saw each other once since I wrote here and we continued texting and calling each other on a daily basis. Yesterday we met on J’s initiative. When I got to the park, to our usual meeting spot, J was already there. He had flowers, coffee and cake (I love cake!) and he told me that we’re going to have a little celebration. He said that today was the day we first met a year ago. Yes, it was. I remember that day very well, it was raining then too but it was much much gloomier. I remembered how broken and desperate I was. The feeling that my world had ended. We talked a lot about the progress we made and how much stronger we both felt now. He told me he loved me and it was all I could do not to just fuck everything and jump into his arms. He is so lovely. When I got home my husband had already picked up our daughter and they were just joking around and having fun. I felt so much sadness and pure horror building up inside me. What am I doing? What are we doing? All of us? The guilt that washed over me seeing my daughters happy face playing around with her food. I couldn’t take it. My husband and the other woman haven’t texted at all this month, and they haven’t met either or at least as far as J and I know. Of course, they work together so we don’t know if the affair has subsided or that they just have learned to be more cautious but my husband has been more attentive at home. Warmer and more present. He says he loves me all the time and that he misses me. I haven’t been intimate with him since I found out about the affair and even the smallest touch from him irks me, and any beautiful word or compliment from him sets my teeth on edge. I just want to scream LIAR and I feel like I’m cheating on J accepting my husband’s affection and the disdain for myself becomes unbearable(make this make sense! please!). I looked at my husband and tried to remember what I loved about him but I couldn’t. All I could see is his texts to her, about how great last time was and what he wanted to do to her next. All the things he once said he wanted to do and did to me that made me feel so special. I tried to think harder about the love, but all I saw was J’s face. I felt immense rage and hatred towards my husband but also towards myself and J. My husband because he broke us and brought this mess upon us and myself because I felt that I wasn’t trying hard enough with my heart occupied with someone else. Have I just given up so easily because I loved J? And my daughter? She is the one who’s going to pay the hard price of seeing her home break because daddy is a selfish, greedy cheater and mommy isn’t trying hard enough to save her marriage when she is pining for another man. I couldn’t control my feelings of anger and resentment and guilt so I wrote J a long text telling him all this and more. He tried to call me but I couldn’t answer him. My heart was swollen in my throat. I told my husband that I wanted sleep in my daughter’s room tonight, something I’ve been doing a lot since this all started. I cried all night watching her beautiful face so peaceful and happy. This morning J called me again and we talked for over an hour. He was very subdued and I heard the fear in his voice. He told me that he respected my wishes in taking a break from each other but also to remember that even when I was at my weakest I still knew exactly what I wanted and that I chose to stay to secure a future for myself and my daughter “You’re too close now to your goal just to stumble and fall”. He said he loved me and that he never felt like this before. And that he will wait. I cried for a good hour afterwards already missing his voice. I know that my marriage is unsalvageable and I that I’m doing the right thing leaving it even with the nagging feeling of guilt that’s simmering beneath the surface, boiling over every now and then waking me up at night but I need to do this alone now. I want to look back with no regrets. The guilt will probably never going to go away entirely but at least it won’t have J’s face now he’s not in the picture anymore. So that’s what’s been up with my life. I told you that it wasn’t an update really and I’m sorry that it is long and confusing but that’s all I have right now. Edit - # I'm not staying in my marriage. ***I don't know if my English is this bad or if people don't bother reading long boring rants. I apologize for both but I'm floored because of the amount of comments and attacks on me as a person and a mother for "staying with my cheating husband"*** ***Please tell me where did I say I was staying? I broke it off with J yes, but it wasn't because I'm going back to my husband. Again, WHERE DID I WRITE THAT I WAS STAYING WITH MY HUSBAND?*** [Update 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/ynwxc1/j_has_now_left_his_wife_a_short_update/) (6 Nov 22) **J has now left his wife (a short update)** Hi everyone! I know! I had a dramatic episode last time I was here and swore not to update again but I'm a woman I can change my mind if I want to. Last time I was overwhelmed by the amount of comments and messages about me being a bad mother and I just couldn't take it so I freaked out on you but today I have a little update, it's not about me. It's about J J's mom is sick, she lives in another city about 7-8 hours drive away. J went to visit her and he texted me before going (he apologized for texting me because we weren't suppose to keep in touch anymore but he wanted me to know he was out of town). I drove over there on Thursday because it sounded like it was serious. I arrived to the hospital around noon. He looked miserable. His mother isn't even old she is 58. My heart is breaking. I could only stay for an hour before heading back home. I feel so guilty leaving him alone. His sisters live across the world and they won't be able to fly home before Christmas. On Friday, J came home and broke off his marriage. I don't know all the details but he didn't mention to her that he knew bout her infidelity. Just that he wasn't happy anymore didn't want to be married to her. He texted me and thanked me for visiting him and his mother and told me about him filing for a divorce from his wife. He is moving back to his home town to be with his mother. He left yesterday but he will be back once more to get the rest of his stuff. Even though I understand him and even if I wasn't seeing him anymore, the city feels empty and gloomy without him. [Update 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/zive6j/i_have_told_my_husband_that_i_know_about_his/) (11 Dec 22) **I have told my husband that I know about his affair and that I’ve been working towards leaving him for the past year** Hi again! I'm sorry I deleted my account. I'm very new to this and I just could't handle the criticism I was getting so I deleted my account. I have understood now that the internet doesn't owe me politeness and people will say their opinion because I put myself out there and that makes it, I guess, ok for people to say hurtful things because I CHOSE to share my story. I have learned that I could deactivate all private communication, so if you have something nasty to say, be brave and put it in the comments instead :), Although I'm hoping for less amount of negative comments this time since people were mainly angry that I was taking my time to leave my husband. Thankfully, while my account is deleted I still, with some digging found my original posts. I have included them here to those who haven't followed my story. I'm still going strong with my studies, and as I said I have secured a job in April with decent salary that will increase with 30% once I graduate 2 months later. I have also signed a lease on an apartment that is a few blocks away from my daughters school. You can't imagine the happiness I was in when I found the apartment but most importantly that they accepted my bad credit, having not had income for over 2 years now. My new job contract and "reference" was enough, and I have to pay for 3 months ahead. I get the keys April 1st too! I still need to talk to a lawyer I just don't want to throw my money before it is getting closer and I need the help. I have found nonprofit org for women that I could call and ask for information and advice. I'm not really in an abusive marriage but they have experience of all sorts of marital and divorce problems. As I stated, since I found out that my husband was cheating on me, our sex life died. In the beginning my husband didn't seem bother about it, probably, no certainly because he had someone else, someone new but with time (it has been over a year now and god it has been the longest and yet shortest year of my life), with time he started to show me affection again, trying to get intimate with me. I avoided him like the plague. He never pressured me but he was getting upset and I felt him getting frustrated. I think his affair had died out by then, or maybe it wasn't as fun and exciting for them? I don't know, I'm not an expert on affairs. For over 2 months now he has been trying to open the subject of our non-existent sex life but I just told him that I didn't have a drive, or that I was busy, this being my last year of my studies. I have been able to keep him at bay and while my explanations and excuses were't making him happy they were good enough to keep him away, that until about a week ago when he wanted to discuss this seriously. I told him again that I was busy and that my sex drive is very low (it is), he said that it wasn't just the sex. We had no intimacy, he barely is allowed to be near me, I never talk to him anymore, like I don't make an effort anymore. I asked him if we could just wait until after the holidays because I'm too busy (And I didn't want to ruin it for our daughter who loves Christmas). He then said something that triggered every nerve on my body. Something like it was not healthy for a marriage when one partner neglects the other because then you start looking somewhere else. I just said that it wasn't true because he started sleeping with (her name) way before I started "neglecting him". He was in total shock. First he tried to know more, maybe he misheard me, then he started to deny it, then made excuses, then started apologizing, then he started asking for details, and what my plans were. When I told him about me getting a job and an apartment, he started pleading trying to hold me. Now this past week, he's tried to talk to me every day and I have been calm with him. He had so many questions. Why didn't I tell him before, at least he could have explained. She meant nothing to him. The relationship ended. He had no feeling for her. It was just physical. He loved me and nobody else. Think about our daughter. He regretted what he did and that's why he ended it. Why was I not more upset? I told him that I had mourned us for a year and that I'm over it now. He still thought this was unfair because this is all new to him. I told him about my job, my new place and I asked him to be patient with me and to think about our daughter and put her first in whatever is coming. He was so angry by that and told me that if I thought about our daughter for a second I would have confronted him there and then. Be honest. We could have tried to fix it with therapy and some effort because he never loved anyone like he does me and he would drop everything else to try and make it right with me. But I chose secrecy, plotting and planning my life without him while pretending everything was fine (did I though?). I started crying and begged him that however angry he is with me, not to take it out in a way that affect our daughter. I told him that I did all of this for her, I didn't want her to see us fight, I didn't want to leave without having the means to offer her a good life. Now he is so angry with me all the time. He barely looks my way. He is still sweet with our daughter though and that is comforting. I sleep in my daughters room most nights. I never meant for it to blow up this soon but you can spend your whole time planning and preparing the perfect exit but life has never been predictable. I don't regret my outburst. Maybe it was time anyway. I will continue communicating with him about the importance of staying civil to each other. He is angry now and he feels cheated and deceived and I get all that but I need him to put aside the hurt and think of our daughter, just like I did. And just like I did, he will get over the pain in time. Sorry again for the long post and for the grammar ​ **edit: J is in the process of divorce too. He has moved back to his home town because his mother is very ill Im afraid 😞 His sisters live in Australia but they have both come home so it feels good that he and his Mother are not alone. I have visited them 3 times since I heard the sad news but he lives far away so I haven’t be able to stay for long periods to support them. We talk over the phone every morning though. He is devastated** 😣💔 **edit2: No, I haven’t told my husband about J nor am I gonna. If by any chance J and I end up together, then everyone will know including my husband but we are not will telling my husband or anybody about how J and I met. We have decided that long ago when we were dreaming about our future together that we wouldn’t tell our exes how we met. It is for the best for anyone involved. I’m keeping this promise. It is nobody’s business but ours.** **We don’t know what the future hold. J lives in another town, 8 hours drive away. We haven’t talked about “us” in ages. We have a lot going on in our lives separately. All I care about now is his mom doing better or at least not suffer.** **Reminder - I'm not the OOP**
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"2022-12-18T07:15:27"
"Buy Now Pay Later Ruined Everything... I'm now $56,000 in high-interest debt"
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"2022-12-18T07:58:35"
Girlfriend(24) gave me(19m) an ultimatum on marriage
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"2022-12-18T08:02:47"
Girlfriend(24) gave me(19m) an ultimatum on marriage
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"2022-12-18T08:16:06"
Girlfriend(24) gave me(19m) an ultimatum on marriage
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"2022-12-18T09:48:47"
Girlfriend(24) gave me(19m) an ultimatum on marriage
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Official Porsche NFT public/free Ethereum mint now live. 1000 hand drawn sketches with tangible benefits for Porsche owners. Interesting at least.
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"2022-12-18T13:47:08"
My mom took my cheating ex girlfriend's side over mine and I can never forgive her.
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"2022-12-18T14:08:24"
Girlfriend(24) gave me(19m) an ultimatum on marriage
INCONCLUSIVE
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Official Porsche NFT public/free Ethereum mint now live. 1000 hand drawn sketches with tangible benefits for Porsche owners. Interesting at least.
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